[Spoiler]

If the OP didn’t want to talk to the census person, couldn’t they just go in the house and shut the door?

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by Spoiler

If the OP didn’t want to talk to the census person, couldn’t they just go in the house and shut the door?

why do i have to leave my garage on my own property due to some nut case that doesn't want to leave the property. I prefer calling the Police to reinforce them not to come back F.S.810.09 is very powerful in Florida and one of the best states that enforce the NO Trespassing laws.

[Toymeister]

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix

Puzzled. I thought the census was next year.

It is Fiscal Year (FY) 20 and it has been for over one month. The relevance of this is the labor (workers) are paid by FY.

[Two Bills]

Just by reading the argument and differing interpretation of who can or can't go where, or do what, etc. just shows why most lawyers are rolling in the greenstuff!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Spoiler

If the OP didn’t want to talk to the census person, couldn’t they just go in the house and shut the door?

I cannot agree more. I see no issue here. In my whole life I have not ever seen anyone get upset about someone coming to their door. I never lived in a dangerous area either. This is a very safe area. Making issues out of non issues and mountains out of molehills is what this whole thing looks like to me.

I feel bad for the lady. I would have to think this was probably the first time in her life the police were called on her.

If someone comes to my door trying to sell me something or trying to convert me, I just say No, thank you. If I peep out and profile them, as a mass murderer, a visitor from another planet or if they have a large snarling and barking animal with them, I just wave through the side panel and shoo them away...Ditto with folks with large running sores.

There is no reason to get all worked up over silly things or be unkind to innocent people trying to make a living.

[Nucky]

Based on past posting I don't really ever remember Chelleybean having a problem with anybody before. To me this is important.

So we have a fine member of our Community (Chellybean) being badgered by someone who actually works for her.

I side Totally and Heavily with and for Chelleybean. Why do we have to interrupt out days for Door Knockers? Get outta my life and off my property.

This is the time that coming from the place where people have a chip on their shoulder helps. A simple grunt with no words would have done the job for me.

The women in Chelly's picture looked like a nut job and you can't be too careful nowadays. If she didn't offer I.D. immediately she could have been deadly wrong.

I know if I was doing her job in a state where people are Strapped I'd be a little more careful and kind when greeting someone.

Bravo to you Chelleybean for standing up for yourself. I hope you can go back to your peaceful life.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I cannot agree more. I see no issue here. In my whole life I have not ever seen anyone get upset about someone coming to their door. I never lived in a dangerous area either. This is a very safe area. Making issues out of non issues and mountains out of molehills is what this whole thing looks like to me.

I feel bad for the lady. I would have to think this was probably the first time in her life the police were called on her.

If someone comes to my door trying to sell me something or trying to convert me, I just say No, thank you. If I peep out and profile them, as a mass murderer, a visitor from another planet or if they have a large snarling and barking animal with them, I just wave through the side panel and shoo them away...Ditto with folks with large running sores.

There is no reason to get all worked up over silly things or be unkind to innocent people trying to make a living.

Rarely do I agree with Gracie, but in this case I do wholeheartedly. The OP appears to have issues with anyone being on his property.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Nucky

Based on past posting I don't really ever remember Chelleybean having a problem with anybody before. To me this is important.

So we have a fine member of our Community (Chellybean) being badgered by someone who actually works for her.

I side Totally and Heavily with and for Chelleybean. Why do we have to interrupt out days for Door Knockers? Get outta my life and off my property.

This is the time that coming from the place where people have a chip on their shoulder helps. A simple grunt with no words would have done the job for me.

The women in Chelly's picture looked like a nut job and you can't be too careful nowadays. If she didn't offer I.D. immediately she could have been deadly wrong.

I know if I was doing her job in a state where people are Strapped I'd be a little more careful and kind when greeting someone.

Bravo to you Chelleybean for standing up for yourself. I hope you can go back to your peaceful life.

Chellybean is a guy. Not that either one of us is sexist.

The lady did have I.D. on her around her neck or on her shirt. See here?

So Nucky? What makes you think the lady was unkind and persistent? That doesn't seem like you at all.



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[Nucky]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Chellybean is a guy. Not that either one of us is sexist.

The lady did have I.D. on her around her neck or on her shirt. See here?

I think our responses are in line with our cultural and geographic upbringing.

So Nucky? What makes you think the lady was unkind and persistent? That doesn't seem like you at all.



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There is not an I.D. around her neck as I am accustomed to seeing it there. She is carrying her I.D. The thing around her neck is the pull strings for her hoodie.

She parked on the wrong side of the street, blocked the driveway if that is in fact her car and I wouldn't speak to anyone who presented themselves at my home who was in the wild shape that she was presented in. Dress appropriately, give me some confidence immediately that you are not a Fugazy.

You are correct about the regional thing. Nobody would have this problem in the old Hood.

[graciegirl]

I remember being baffled by a similar thread on this Forum. Here is is, on trespassing.

Trespassing by tax appraisers


I think that some people have bigger issues with this than others and I am not sure why.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Nucky

There is not an I.D. around her neck as I am accustomed to seeing it there. She is carrying her I.D. The thing around her neck is the pull strings for her hoodie.

She parked on the wrong side of the street, blocked the driveway if that is in fact her car and I wouldn't speak to anyone who presented themselves at my home who was in the wild shape that she was presented in. Dress appropriately, give me some confidence immediately that you are not a Fugazy.

You are correct about the regional thing. Nobody would have this problem in the old Hood.

You are right as usual about her carrying her I.D.




The rest about dressing??? I would question she was sane. When lately has it been cool enough to wear that???

[Carla B]

As regards her mode of dress, what time did this happen? If it was early in the morning it was chilly outside. People on the golf course were bundled up. Also, if it was early, that is not a civilized time for a stranger to be asking questions, IMO. The only reason I'd be up is to go to the airport or hospital, with no inclination to be chatty in either case.

[Bogie Shooter]

If all the accusations about the lady are true....so what.
She is one out of hundreds doing the same job. Happens all the time in many situations, one bad apple.
Let it go......

[Villageswimmer]

[QUOTE=Chellybean;
Most people do not understand there rights and even the Deputy had to call his supervisor and the supervisor call his watch commander LT. to know what to do. AT the End F.S.810.09 applies.
Now if this went to court i could bet that there would of been a federal and State ****ing contest; and what to do with this case, it would probably be thrown out but the Census Bureau would be warned to not violate privacy policy's.[/QUOTE]


So, after all the confusion among LEOs, what happened? Was she arrested? How did she respond to the Deputy?

[graciegirl]

I have never heard of "F.S.810.09" . It must be an issue in other states than Ohio and Indiana and Florida where I have lived.

I will look it up.

I did. I still don't know what it is. Here is what I found with some references to fertilizer and animals and a couple of things from trespassing lawyers down by Miami. Is this a county thing???


f.s.810.09 - Bing


Oh wait...…..I found this; https://www.husseinandwebber.com/cri...imes/trespass/