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Stu from NYC 08-22-2023 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2248314)
I hope you are right that Central Pkw will be the center of the villages so all the traffic and crowds stay down there.
It will be the center until down the road it is not.

JWGifford 08-22-2023 07:38 AM
If it wasn’t the current developer it would be someone else based on TV success.

Michael 61 08-22-2023 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LadyDiva (Post 2248287)
When property goes for sale anyone can purchase it, If the Villages don’t purchase it, someone else will and the building will continue. Nothing you or I can really do
about it, just grab your popcorn and sit back and relax and watch the show.
Exactly - this land will get developed one way or another - I personally would rather that land come under the “control” and ownership of TV. The empty land between TV and Clermont will all be “gobbled up” and developed in the next decade, and we will become a far northern suburb of Greater Orlando. It’s inevitable. I’m excited for the future of TV.

Altavia 08-22-2023 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2248298)
It has been confirmed on this thread that it IS NOT a rumor. Jennifer Parr testified under oath in a trial that the the size of the Villages is going to double. Also, Some posters loaded maps of the land the developer has bought to show Central Pkwy will be the new center of the villages.

I am not fearful of this change. simply dreading the traffic. I wanted to seek the truth because I am planning on moving to the new area. Now, I am well-equipped with facts to make the best decision possible.
Safe bet for sure.

With over 10,000 people retiring per day the development is sustainable and pumping over a billion dollars a year into the local economy.

This created continuous high paying skilled jobs for thousands of workers for over twenty years. It's not common to meet families that have multiple generations working in Villages construction all their lives.

The property tax base is also increasing over a billion dollars a year. Apparently enough last year that will result in a tax reduction this year.

Middleton with the schools is brilliant for many reasons and bringing a diverse demographic mix to the market. This will likely open new commercial opportunities. It will be interesting to watch and see if they continue family housing development.

jwwbmw 08-22-2023 07:55 AM
So many Villagers are flipping out over the fact that The Villages is growing and expanding. While it is not what it used to be, consider this… so many cities and communities across our country are facing the opposite problem. Their communities are dying. People are moving out, therefore businesses are shutting down, new business won’t come, property values have plummeted. They are scrambling in desperation to save what they have left. An expansion like The Villages would be their epiphany. It’s another way to look at our rapid expansion.

Normal 08-22-2023 07:59 AM
Throughway
 
It does make you wonder when The Villages will be large enough for their first throughway. It’s certainly getting close in size and scope. I’m sure those whom it effect will raise Cain. But hey, you can’t have traffic glutting forever.

Regorp 08-22-2023 08:02 AM
Central pkwy
 
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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2247955)
Word has it, the Developer named the street near Eastport, Central Pkwy because when construction is complete, this area will now be the center of the Villages. If my calculations are correct, our population is going to explode approaching 1/2 million! A city possibly larger than Orlando or Tampa.

UPDATE: THANKS TO THOSE WHO HAVE CONFIRMED ON THIS THREAD THAT THIS IS NOT A RUMOR. WHEN YOU WANT THE TRUTH, JUST ASK TOTV! THANKS AGAIN! This information will help when I purchase a new home.

Here are my calculations. Population now 140,000. Multiply by two since Developer has stated Villages is going to double in size. A 280,OOO population.

But, this does not include the many outside developments in Lady Lake, Beaumont, or apartment buildings, townhouses, etc. It also does not include homes with children or multi-generational living.

Yikes! I can only imagine what traffic is going to be like in a few years. Overcrowded, everywhere? What do you think?

Some current populations for comparison:
Tampa: 395,276
Orlando: 312, 280
Miami: 452,952
Jacksonville: 954, 614

Please note: this is not a bash the south post. Population includes everyone. Please spare those remarks.
Central parkway goes right by Middleton where our son lives. There has been land cleared as far as the eye can see in every direction with Moultrie Creek and East Port just beginning. We live in a constantly changing amazing area here. Can't wait for what comes next.

nmgirardot 08-22-2023 08:06 AM
I believe Eastport, Central Lake, Torch Lake, Grand Traverse, Brownwood, Antrim, Atwood, etc are a nod to the area in Michigan where the family originates.

terryw13 08-22-2023 08:18 AM
I worked at one of the sales offices and saw a map of the land they have purchased to the south. It goes past Bushnell almost to Webster. They said it would allow them to build for another 25 years. Not a stretch to say Central Parkway could be the center of The Villages someday.

Sandy and Ed 08-22-2023 08:26 AM
Up north malls and large department stores are closing left and right due to th surge in shop by phone houses such as Amazon as well as less merchandise being stocked on store shelves in lieu of phone orders from websites. Wonder if this might eventually put a damper on some of the anchor stores anticipated in the villages present and future

Michael 61 08-22-2023 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2248341)
Up north malls and large department stores are closing left and right due to th surge in shop by phone houses such as Amazon as well as less merchandise being stocked on store shelves in lieu of phone orders from websites. Wonder if this might eventually put a damper on some of the anchor stores anticipated in the villages present and future
Good point to ponder - and could be true, as many big box stores are rethinking their business models regarding building new stores. Personally, I would be OK if these stores do not make it south of 44. I don’t shop at any of them anyway (most shopping done on-line). I drive up to 441/27 and that traffic quagmire in Lady Lake as little as possible, because of all that traffic that comes with those strip malls and fast food outlets.

Dantes 08-22-2023 08:35 AM
Correct in your numbers so is the other persons City limits and metro are different The Villages is the Villages , Bigger In two years Fenny area will be the center my humble opinion

Normal 08-22-2023 08:37 AM
Everything
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2248341)
Up north malls and large department stores are closing left and right due to th surge in shop by phone houses such as Amazon as well as less merchandise being stocked on store shelves in lieu of phone orders from websites. Wonder if this might eventually put a damper on some of the anchor stores anticipated in the villages present and future
The eventual implosion of commercial real estate will hit investors and bankers the hardest. I know of a mall near Norwalk Connecticut that had Nordstrom’s for an anchor that is closing. It opened just 2 years ago.

My point, new or established, it just won’t matter. Unless you are dealing with food items or the discounted inventory environment, you likely will die on the commercial vine.

mntlblok 08-22-2023 08:45 AM
Elevation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2248330)
It does make you wonder when The Villages will be large enough for their first throughway. It’s certainly getting close in size and scope. I’m sure those whom it effect will raise Cain. But hey, you can’t have traffic glutting forever.
Whoa! An elevated N/S road! Bet it's been pondered!

Jcicales 08-22-2023 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2248352)
The eventual implosion of commercial real estate will hit investors and bankers the hardest. I know of a mall near Norwalk Connecticut that had Nordstrom’s for an anchor that is closing. It opened just 2 years ago.

My point, new or established, it just won’t matter. Unless you are dealing with food items or the discounted inventory environment, you likely will die on the commercial vine.
I know that mall. I live in CT- it was empty tge two times I went. Couldn’t believe it was built.


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