Originally Posted by jacksonbrown (Post 1844216)

Watching the latest of Don's videos, I am surprised (or maybe not surprised) at the lack of foretought in the design of the Chitty Chatty bridge.

Unlike the bridge crossing Lake Sumter, where there is a dedicated walking and biking lane, the Chitty Chatty bridge features(?) a single walking / biking lane on the Rohan side of the bridge which abruptly ends at the top.

While a good idea (developer liability), won't this cause more problems than it attempts to alleviate?

As a walker / runner / cyclist, with many years sharing space with carts and cars, here is my take.

On a flat roadway / sidewalk

1. Walkers travel at 2 to 5 mph.
2. Runners travel at 6 to 10 mph
3. Cyclists travel at 8 to 18 mph
4. Carts travel at 20+ mph

So what happens at the top of the grade when the four groups merge together to travel across the bridge?

Answer, the walkers walk at 5 mph, the runners run at 8 mph, the cyclists cycle at 14 mph and all the carts line up behind them, even though the cart drivers are used to traveling 20 mph.

Hopefully, all the cart drivers will be abundantly patient and slow to 5 mph. The carts will not attempt to pass the walkers / runners / cyclists. Yeah right!

Can you say Morgan and Morgan?

Originally Posted by ureout (Post 1844218)

does anyone know the width of the 2 lanes on the bridge?

Originally Posted by McGyver9 (Post 1844504)

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1844245)

I was told by my barbers gardener, that the walkway to the top was for skiers to use when it snows here in the winter!:icon_wink:

Originally Posted by jacksonbrown (Post 1844216)

Watching the latest of Don's videos, I am surprised (or maybe not surprised) at the lack of foretought in the design of the Chitty Chatty bridge.

Unlike the bridge crossing Lake Sumter, where there is a dedicated walking and biking lane, the Chitty Chatty bridge features(?) a single walking / biking lane on the Rohan side of the bridge which abruptly ends at the top.

While a good idea (developer liability), won't this cause more problems than it attempts to alleviate?

As a walker / runner / cyclist, with many years sharing space with carts and cars, here is my take.

On a flat roadway / sidewalk

1. Walkers travel at 2 to 5 mph.
2. Runners travel at 6 to 10 mph
3. Cyclists travel at 8 to 18 mph
4. Carts travel at 20+ mph

So what happens at the top of the grade when the four groups merge together to travel across the bridge?

Answer, the walkers walk at 5 mph, the runners run at 8 mph, the cyclists cycle at 14 mph and all the carts line up behind them, even though the cart drivers are used to traveling 20 mph.

Hopefully, all the cart drivers will be abundantly patient and slow to 5 mph. The carts will not attempt to pass the walkers / runners / cyclists. Yeah right!

Can you say Morgan and Morgan?

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1844527)

I am of the opinion that sooner or later a walker is going to get killed or seriously injured walking on the "multi modal" paths. When that happens I wouldn't be surprised to see the victim or their family sue the Villages for encouraging people to walk on these paths. I'm all for personal responsibility but they way lawyers and courts view things like this I believe that the developer have left themselves in a precarious position.

People walk on these paths all the time because they have a right to. IMHO, you are taking your life in your hands by exercising your right. There are several blind corners and the brakes on golf carts are not all that great. They are not meant to stop a cart going 20+mph. With all of the places to walk, why would someone choose to walk where 600 pound vehicles with bad brakes and elderly drivers are zipping along at 20+MPH?


The Villages should call these "Golf Cart Paths" and either strongly suggest that people not walk on them or ban walking on them all together.

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1844286)

I doubt that there will be many people walking on that bridge, maybe at the beginning but it will quickly fade. I also don't see it having heavy bike and golf car traffic, it will be used by both but doubtful there will be any "traffic jams" as there will be plenty of space for the cars to pass the bikes. For the next few months only those living in Chitty Chatty and Bradford will have easy access to the bridge, even walkers from west of the Turnpike will have to find a place to park their cars before starting their journey. As far as those living north, after they find there is really nothing much to see or do over there at this time they won't come back until the golf courses are open or at such time that they can cross the turnpike.

Originally Posted by mjohn1203 (Post 1844557)

So if we live in Fenney or one of the other villages south of 44, we do not have golf cart access to the Chitty Chatty bridge? When will we get access?