I was actually surprised that there was any no smoking law in Florida. A lot of states have a law banning outdoor smoking where food is served. This was usually a migration from the indoor law. Hopefully, Florida will choose to do so also. Or it can be done on a county by county basis.

I used to smoke, but even then I didn't like the smell of smoke when I ate. So much of what you taste is what you smell. So in the meantime maybe smokers can hold off for a few minutes if food is served next to you.

As far as cigars go the smell is determined by the quality of the tobacco. All I can say is that there are a lot of cheap cigars around. Cigar smokers, go to Garvinos and lay out a few bucks. You'll be doing a community service.

I'm with you on THAT one! BIG TIME. How about when two or more perfumed people are traveling together and EACH is drenched in something? ARRGH!

Silver Lining in Every Cloud of Cigar Smoke
 

Just saw a blurb online that reported:

"A study that was made in Cuba and looked into the lives of 54 out of the more than 100 centenarians who live in Villa Clara province, showed that Cigars and sex 'boost Cuba lives. Cuba's high number of centenarians says their longevity is down to laying off alcohol, but indulging in cigars and sex."

It might just be the Cuban women. I would suggest all you cigar smokers emigrate to Cuba. Just to be sure (or at least Miami):)

http://www.google.com/search?q=lungs...w=1280&bih=843

Is this the article?

I was trying to inject a little humor into a thread that was becoming way too testy. Obviously your sense of humor is different than mine. You started this thread to point out that it was rude to force cigar smoke on others. It of course mutated to the "toxic" aspects of smoking and was going nowhere from there even though the ability to smell a substance has little or nothing to do with an imminent toxic risk. The human sniffer often detects unpleasant odors that are nowhere near toxic levels, just unpleasant. At any rate, my post did not endorse smoking or not. It only endorsed humor as a way to defuse toxic conversations.

I am always amused by the terminology used by a select few who continuously walk around with a go-no go gauge of things they like or don't like....which is fine. But please don't be so arrogant/rude/naieve to apply those measures to the majority....because they usually are not.

I am entertained by those who would "tolerate" cigarettes, but can't stand cigar smoke/smell. Cigarettes? The unequivical #1 killer by first or second hand smoke?

I agree with to each his own with a little bit of mind your own business thrown in....but please don't try to pass it off as the acceptable standard for all the rest of us.

Use the energy to need to get something done to go after the dolts in Washington ....where you can make a difference....I'm just sayin' :D

btk

I'm thinking of moving to TV - is the smell of cigarettes, cigars and pipes an issue at TV? The homes are so close together I now worry that a smoker neighbor could ruin a happy retirment home. Any thoughts and opinions on this people?

simply put - yes. if you cannot, will not, do not and/or refuse to tolerate the behaviors of your neighbors, you are perhaps better off finding a nice retirement community in n.j. for your retirement. n.j. still allows walls and other confinements around one's living areas that you can't find in n.j.

my dear husband has great difficulties when things do not go his way, thus we just snowbird in the villages so that he can enjoy the freedom from snow, ice, sleet and freezing temps with the knowledge that despite the inconveniences he has traded for the warm winter, he will soon be back in the security of his n.j. compound.

This is one of my major concerns, too. I currently reside in a relatively smoke free community and do not want ever again to have to deal with suffering the nuisance and health issues of environmental tobacco smoke in public areas much less my own yard and home.

Please don't let the conversation on this thread keep you from coming and experiencing TV or yourselves. Are there people here that smoke, yes. Is it a problem, in my opinion, no. Some folks are hyper-sensitive to the smell of smoke and for them, it is a problem. But, I think these folks avoid areas where there might be smokers.

Perhaps someone else can chime in here, but I find it hard to believe that you would have a problem from a neighbor smoking on his lanai or yard.

Give us a try, before you write us off...

Enjoy...

Well, you might smell something occasionally from a neighbor, cigar aromas, barbeque/cooking smells, etc. ..... but lanai fans do a pretty good job of diffusing that kind of thing. You may hear a golf car backing out of a driveway (many beep) a sliding screen shutting or hear a doggie barking at a doorbell once in a while. You may even hear laughter from another lanai when people are entertaining outside.... but most everyone tries to be considerate of their neighbors each and every day!

When driving your golf car through a tunnel, you may smell someone's residual gas fumes for a moment or two, or even a bit of cigar aroma once in a while, but you'll be moving in the open air, so this too will pass quickly.
If a smoking neighbor is a serious detriment, perhaps the option of enclosing your outdoor space would be a possible solution.... or adding an outdoor fan or two.

I once had a neighbor up north (very nice, gentle guy) who used a charcoal barbeque frequently. Not a problem in itself, but he was taught to light it using all of a half quart of Zippo lighter fluid every time. The way the wind typically traveled, his lighter fluid fumes filled my house if I didn't close the patio doors in time, and I am prone to intense migraines. It was something I wished he wouldn't do, but learned to adjust around his grill time. For me it was easier than getting my knickers in a twist daily. He wasn't doing it to annoy, he just wasn't the best grill master on the planet.
I suppose I could have "enlightened" him, but I have enough on my plate trying to improve my own self... it's not for me to direct anyone else. (she keeps reminding herself....!)
Anyway, hope you will find the most wonderful new home and truly live happily ever after. And, welcome to TOTV! :smiley:

Neighbors had an issue with cigarette smoking wafting from the lanai that backs up to theirs. They worked it out amicably. This is still a friendly place.

What she said.

OK. Great comments. I am happy to see that most agree that the smoker was not criminal, but also not very considerate. I also respect the opinions of those that have disagreed with me. There were only a few that tried to turn this into an argument, but, thankfully, no one took that bait. In short a very civil discussion. I will still say cigars stink and have no place at the table, be it outside or inside. Well, headed for Cody's in a few hours for dinner and a 32 oz beer.

We do??????

:D :throwtomatoes:

I think beer smells nasty, especially when a beer drinker takes a gulp and talks to me. Uuuuug that smell almost knocks me down. However, not once have I ever complained about beer drinkers.

Maybe one day we could sit down together and you can drink beer and I can have a cigarette?

Well said tippyclubb!!!!!!

Can I add cologne, after shave, and perfume. It seems some people have to dip themselves in it to achieve the desired level of "stink". Nothing like sitting in a movie or restaurant next to one of these "stinkers" I'm just saying.......

Might as well mention gas golf carts too.

I agree too. THIS IS SUCH a GREAT post!!!!