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Bogie Shooter 08-26-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ugotme (Post 733711)
Personally, I do not know the Morse family or much about them.

My only comment would be is, if Bank of America or Chase or any other bank closed one of its' branches, there would probably be a little grumbling but most would see it as a slight inconvenience.

Many would see it for what it is - a wise business decision.

What is wrong with that?

And they would not take the opportunity to bash the developer.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-26-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 733578)
You surely aren't so naive that you think the Citizens Banks are totally independent of the developer. :a040::a040:

I wasn't aware that the developer's corporation had control over that particular bank. I don't use Citizen's bank and I don't keep track of what the developer owns and doesn't own. I honestly don't care.

rubicon 08-26-2013 04:28 PM

Developer runs a tight ship. He is good to those employees close to him and rewards them with trips to the Carribbean, etc. He pretty much has the final say on those things he deems essential.

I can understand why some folks are wowed by The Villages, however, I believe some folks go overboard. Its nice here but there are other towns, cities or developments that can also wow you.

There are some residents especially the those who knew the father that have romanticized this family viewing them as being benevolent maternal, etc. so when the see something like a wall going up they over react.

Bogie Shooter 08-26-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 733746)
Developer runs a tight ship. He is good to those employees close to him and rewards them with trips to the Carribbean, etc. He pretty much has the final say on those things he deems essential.

I can understand why some folks are wowed by The Villages, however, I believe some folks go overboard. Its nice here but there are other towns, cities or developments that can also wow you.

There are some residents especially the those who knew the father that have romanticized this family viewing them as being benevolent maternal, etc. so when the see something like a wall going up they over react.

Careful Rubicon, you will kick up the wall firestorm...........again.

skip0358 08-26-2013 06:48 PM

Two banks close by, visit to the bank are down, why keep 2 open. Here's another thought. Maybe as there was a post a week or so ago about the post Office on the old side moving, MAYBE don't know for sure they'll move to the bank lobby, more room and more parking, just a thought. Another thing is in all big businesses consolidate and cut your overhead and you'll do better. As for the restaurants the family is getting of the food business period.

villagerjack 08-26-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 733168)
And now there is talk of closing the Tierre Del Sol restaurant. By my count, if that closes, that will be the fifth restaurant to close in the original Villages.

Probably closed the restaurants because they were too successful and the bank because it was too busy.

jbdlfan 08-26-2013 07:19 PM

Well, I can say (for an absolute fact) up until about six months ago he still would come to the meetings and visit branches often. Have no direct information since.
It was a very practical decision for goodness sakes.

njbchbum 08-26-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 733810)
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Maybe as there was a post a week or so ago about the post Office on the old side moving, MAYBE don't know for sure they'll move to the bank lobby, more room and more parking, just a thought.
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still scratching my head over that one! biggest parking lot ever located to the left of the bldg and there will not be any growth that needs to be serviced since those neighborhoods are long build out! any time other that 'the season' does not usually present a parking or crowd problem. and why woud a post office want to be in the a bldg with a drive-up bank and vice-versa?

elainecohen 08-26-2013 08:24 PM

Tierra Del Sol
 
Why? What are the other four? How is the new Havana singing waiters?

CFrance 08-26-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 733332)
To build up Sumter ......either you jest or are prejudiced or bitter (about something)..... Or whatever but oh so incorrect.
Your opinion and entitled......but not correct.

btk

But wait... you can't just say the OP's opinion is incorrect without stating why.

You're both entitled to your opinion, but back it up with something.

CFrance 08-26-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lbmb24101 (Post 733730)
Technology and convenience is fine and dandy
We use direct deposit, etc
But as my old man used to say:
'always have a contact in the bank so they get to know you. One never lnows when one needs a small favor"
I have not needed the favor, yet, but one can never say never.
Too much automation i think, is not great in an industry, like banking, where accuracy and privacy are so crucial. Technology is not infalible, neither are humans, but humans have the human touch.
My sis is a vp in pnc in pa. And she does lament about what is trending in the banking industry right now; more tech and a lot less personal servce?.. Alas!

I agree with this. We have kids who live overseas, and for whom we do a lot of banking here in the US. And we ourselves have had to transfer monies overseas for various personal reasons. It requires a face-to-face time with a banking personnel to accomplish this. This is not something you can do online. They have had to make a few telephone calls to other departments to find out the proper ways to do some of the things we have needed to do. This is not an infrequent occurrence for us. Several times a year.

Today I went to Bank Of America on Parr drive (off 466) to deposit birthday $ into our younger son's account. He lives and works in Australia with his wife. I can't do this at an atm. I don't have a bank card for his account. I need to go into the bank. I could possibly do this at a drive-through, but communicating to them that I don't have a deposit slip, what his bank account number is, and providing my ID proof is... well, I much prefer to deal with all that in person.

Oh, and the teller... I can't believe how nice they are in there. It's not even our bank. Did you know her son plays the string bass and so does ours? And that his real passion was drums but they agreed he would only play them while she was at work? And how many times have we been to Australia, and BTW another patron was in earlier wiring funds to her daughter in OZ who was having a little too much fun...? And she hopes we have a great next trip over in November.

Sorry... got carried away. I loooooooooooove online banking, and that's all we do for ourselves. But this really reminded me how great face-to-face interaction can be.

Sorry your lobby is closing.

twinklesweep 08-27-2013 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 733585)
It only made sense to close the Avineda branch. What I find amazing is some have more concern for the lack of convenience(you have to drive another half mile now) than about the people that just lost a job......

I find this lack of concern for others—in this instance for working people who've lost their jobs—more pervasive here in TV than I have in any other place I've lived. And I've heard this feeling expressed by others as well. And to think we criticize younger generations as living by a "me, me, me first!" attitude....

deltaguy 08-27-2013 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by twinklesweep (Post 733921)
I find this lack of concern for others—in this instance for working people who've lost their jobs—more pervasive here in TV than I have in any other place I've lived. And I've heard this feeling expressed by others as well. And to think we criticize younger generations as living by a "me, me, me first!" attitude....

And how do we know that anyone lost their jobs???? Ever consider retirement or possible relocation to other branch locations?

Bogie Shooter 08-27-2013 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by twinklesweep (Post 733921)
I find this lack of concern for others—in this instance for working people who've lost their jobs—more pervasive here in TV than I have in any other place I've lived. And I've heard this feeling expressed by others as well. And to think we criticize younger generations as living by a "me, me, me first!" attitude....

What does this mean "here in TV"? Village employees or employees of businesses around the villages or both? What lack of concern can you cite?

Ragman 08-27-2013 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by twinklesweep (Post 733921)
I find this lack of concern for others—in this instance for working people who've lost their jobs—more pervasive here in TV than I have in any other place I've lived. And I've heard this feeling expressed by others as well. And to think we criticize younger generations as living by a "me, me, me first!" attitude....

The manager of the semi-closed branch will be the new manager at the Pinellas branch opening in late October. Probably the staff will have the option of going there or another branch when personnel are reshuffled.

Waiting for the facts before jumping to conclusions is a good idea.

graciegirl 08-27-2013 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by twinklesweep (Post 733921)
I find this lack of concern for others—in this instance for working people who've lost their jobs—more pervasive here in TV than I have in any other place I've lived. And I've heard this feeling expressed by others as well. And to think we criticize younger generations as living by a "me, me, me first!" attitude....

Twinklesweep.

Business is run to stay in the black. That means that if a building is not being used, the upkeep, the heat and air, the insurance, the salaries paid for those who work in it, and their benefits, than WHAT FUND is going to pay for it? It takes a lot of balancing to keep business so that it will continue to make money, which is the goal and in so doing keep people employed.

When types of business become passé such as railroads here in the U.S. than people lost their jobs. Even if the owners funded the bank staying open from their private funds, it would not be a sensible move, a very kind one granted, but it isn't the way business is run.

It is very sad when people lose their jobs. It than requires all the things that we Americans are good at. Strength, stamina, courage, ingenuity and perseverance to find another job. Most of us have faced losing jobs sometimes in our lives and I would guess most of us truly understand and sympathize.

Big business is run by people who sometimes are nice. Some of them are retired now and live here.

twinklesweep 08-27-2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguy (Post 733933)
And how do we know that anyone lost their jobs???? Ever consider retirement or possible relocation to other branch locations?

Maybe you're right. But is it possible that you're wrong, that a bank branch lobby closed and its employees (or some of its employees) are out of work?

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 733996)
What does this mean "here in TV"? Village employees or employees of businesses around the villages or both? What lack of concern can you cite?

I can cite the 56 preceding posts on this thread, that with the exception of the poster I quoted and myself, there is not a single one that addresses even the possibility of people being out of work as a result of the closure and the impact on their lives! If anything, the focus seems to be on the minor inconvenience of having to use a different branch—of the many branches in TV—of this bank.

twinklesweep 08-27-2013 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 734013)
Twinklesweep.

Business is run to stay in the black. That means that if a building is not being used, the upkeep, the heat and air, the insurance, the salaries paid for those who work in it, and their benefits, than WHAT FUND is going to pay for it? It takes a lot of balancing to keep business so that it will continue to make money, which is the goal and in so doing keep people employed.

When types of business become passé such as railroads here in the U.S. than people lost their jobs. Even if the owners funded the bank staying open from their private funds, it would not be a sensible move, a very kind one granted, but it isn't the way business is run.

It is very sad when people lose their jobs. It than requires all the things that we Americans are good at. Strength, stamina, courage, ingenuity and perseverance to find another job. Most of us have faced losing jobs sometimes in our lives and I would guess most of us truly understand and sympathize.

Big business is run by people who sometimes are nice. Some of them are retired now and live here.

I am a former business owner, so please trust me when I say that I understand the requirements of operating a business. I certainly understand the closure of the lobby of one bank branch in an area where there are countless other branches of the same bank to do one's banking in. But this is not what I'm talking about.

Prior to creating my own business (and I might add an extraordinarily successful one), I too experienced the loss of a job at a time when I had a young family to support. I appreciate your expression of sadness [my emphasis above] at the loss of their jobs, and yes, hopefully they'll find another quickly. But please re-read through this entire thread and see if you see any concern expressed for those displaced employees. I could not....

twinklesweep 08-27-2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragman (Post 734007)
The manager of the semi-closed branch will be the new manager at the Pinellas branch opening in late October. Probably the staff will have the option of going there or another branch when personnel are reshuffled.

Waiting for the facts before jumping to conclusions is a good idea.

What facts are you talking about? What conclusions did I jump to? All I cited was a lack of any concern expressed for these employees on the part of virtually all of the posters on this thread. If you say I am wrong, please cite the numbers of the posts that expressed any consideration for these displaced employees. Thank you.

graciegirl 08-27-2013 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by twinklesweep (Post 734029)
I am a former business owner, so please trust me when I say that I understand the requirements of operating a business. I certainly understand the closure of the lobby of one bank branch in an area where there are countless other branches of the same bank to do one's banking in. But this is not what I'm talking about.

Prior to creating my own business (and I might add an extraordinarily successful one), I too experienced the loss of a job at a time when I had a young family to support. I appreciate your expression of sadness [my emphasis above] at the loss of their jobs, and yes, hopefully they'll find another quickly. But please re-read through this entire thread and see if you see any concern expressed for those displaced employees. I could not....

I don't know what to say.

twinklesweep 08-27-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 734034)
I don't know what to say.

There's nothing to say; it is what it is. And I'm sure you know the story about "killing the messenger." All I did was notice something and point it out....

collie1228 08-27-2013 08:50 AM

I'm biased, as I really like dealing with Citizens First Bank. Prior to my move to TV I was a loyal credit union member for about 25 years and never wanted to deal with a commercial bank again. Citizens changed my mind with its excellent customer service and convenience. That being said, I mostly use the branch office they are closing and I often wondered how they could justify keeping it open as there was seldom any waiting line, even on Friday afternoons. So I'll just have to use the branch office that's probably less than 1/2 mile away, one block off the town square. Not an inconvenience at all.

skip0358 08-27-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 733837)
still scratching my head over that one! biggest parking lot ever located to the left of the bldg and there will not be any growth that needs to be serviced since those neighborhoods are long build out! any time other that 'the season' does not usually present a parking or crowd problem. and why woud a post office want to be in the a bldg with a drive-up bank and vice-versa?

I know nothing definite, as I said it was just a thought. One can never tell what will happen in TV. As I said it was an earlier post about the PO moving. I believe there was also something about it in one of the papers also but can't remember which one. Bank & a PO one stop shopping.

njbchbum 08-27-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 734110)
I know nothing definite, as I said it was just a thought. One can never tell what will happen in TV. As I said it was an earlier post about the PO moving. I believe there was also something about it in one of the papers also but can't remember which one. Bank & a PO one stop shopping.

double dipping potential for criminal activity, too! ;)

KathieI 08-27-2013 09:49 AM

Wouldn't it be nice to have a "drive through" post office??? Wow,,, I'm gonna propose that (to someone??)


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