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d1nod1no 02-25-2025 05:39 AM

If you can get it on the ballot.

d1nod1no 02-25-2025 05:50 AM

Exactly. How to enforce?

Cuervo 02-25-2025 05:51 AM

I haven't read all the posts, so I do not know if this approach has been suggested as yet.
I own a condo in NYC, and the board there has had time restriction in place for years now when it comes to rental property. If I remember correctly, it was minimum 3 months. I believe this would be an easier approach to this problem. Now knowing people who own rental properties here I'm not saying 3 months, since the rental situation is different, but maybe 3 weeks. This would mean the renters would actually be here to enjoy The Villages and not use the property for a weekend bash.

Hplaw 02-25-2025 07:40 AM

AB&B In Villages
 
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Originally Posted by Dustybrogan (Post 2411702)
Actually, who cares about the golf courses. Played with a guy this week who was in a rental for a week to play golf. He had no interest in buying anything in The Villages. With (Every) t-shot he took at least a 4”x6” divot and left the old T sticking in the ground. He didn’t try to repair anything, obviously he didn’t care about our courses. Just came here for a week for the free golf that somehow came with a weekly rental. He belonged to a country club in the north east. I’m guessing that he doesn’t get by treating his course that way. Bottom line, if every weekly renter treated our courses this way, they would be in terrible shape for the home owners of The Villages. Free golf included with a weekly rental is quite a perk for the owner and the renters!

I am not surprised to find yet another "complaint" from many residents. You pay a monthly fee to use all the facilities but it doesn't mean you own them. We rent for a month each year from the Villagers4rent, same house for the past 3 years. We are always respectful, obey the rules of the house and respect the neighbors. I think this is the situation of 99% of renters. If they cause a problem they are. not welcome to rent the property again. We are out and about more than in the house as are most. I am sure if there is a problem renter it is handled quickly. There will always be the few who are disrespectful and act privileged but this is not the majority. Rentals keep the businesses going.

MX rider 02-25-2025 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2411825)
I think the concern is not so much 1+ month renters who are 55+, but 2-7 day renters that are much younger---most Airbnb rentals are much shorter than a month

Yes.I think it should be a 1 month minimum. Jmo

golfing eagles 02-25-2025 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hplaw (Post 2411849)
I am not surprised to find yet another "complaint" from many residents. You pay a monthly fee to use all the facilities but it doesn't mean you own them. We rent for a month each year from the Villagers4rent, same house for the past 3 years. We are always respectful, obey the rules of the house and respect the neighbors. I think this is the situation of 99% of renters. If they cause a problem they are. not welcome to rent the property again. We are out and about more than in the house as are most. I am sure if there is a problem renter it is handled quickly. There will always be the few who are disrespectful and act privileged but this is not the majority. Rentals keep the businesses going.

That probably is the situation with 99% of 1+ month renters, especially those that come year after year or are interested in buying. Do you think the same is true of 6 20-somethings renting an Airbnb for a long weekend??????

Bill14564 02-25-2025 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2411946)
That probably is the situation with 99% of 1+ month renters, especially those that come year after year or are interested in buying. Do you think the same is true of 6 20-somethings renting an Airbnb for a long weekend??????

What percentage of the <1 month renters do you suppose are 6 20-somethings renting an Airbnb for a long weekend? The Villages is a big place and I spend my time in a small corner of it but my experience would put that percentage near 0.

JMintzer 02-25-2025 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2411704)
Seldom a week goes by that we do not see that kind of behavior ! Difficult to pin it all on the AB&B people, but one thing we noticed (it it means anything, who knows ?) is most villagers have their names on their golf carts. We did get curious enough about things like stepping ON the hole around the edges(!), hammering the head of a putter into the green when a putt is missed, never repairing ball marks or divots on tees or fairways, and definitely do never using sand ..... seems to be people in carts that have NO name(s) painted or decal, sooooo that could indicate and support what you suspect.

My neither of the carts I've owned had our names, nor any decal.

Yet I'll always fix my ball mark on the greens (and look around for 1-2 to fix) and my sand bottle typically needs a refill after 9 holes...

Broad brushes slop on waaay to much paint...

JMintzer 02-25-2025 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2411825)
I think the concern is not so much 1+ month renters who are 55+, but 2-7 day renters that are much younger---most Airbnb rentals are much shorter than a month

Agreed. When we first visited TV (over Thanksgiving 2019), we stayed with friends.

A little more than a year later (Jan/Feb 2021), we rented a home for two months. Our neighbors were kind and helpful and we tried to be polite renters.

It was during that two month rental that we put a bid on a house and settled on our current home...

golfing eagles 02-25-2025 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2411947)
What percentage of the <1 month renters do you suppose are 6 20-somethings renting an Airbnb for a long weekend? The Villages is a big place and I spend my time in a small corner of it but my experience would put that percentage near 0.

Then let me rephrase: Which would you rather have next to you----a 65 year old couple that rents for 2 months every year, or an Airbnb?

Bill14564 02-25-2025 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2412000)
Then let me rephrase: Which would you rather have next to you----a 65 year old couple that rents for 2 months every year, or an Airbnb?

I honestly don’t know what I have next to me now. I read horror stories here but too often they sound strikingly similar, as if there was a single (or two) bad event that those who hate Airbnbs have adopted and are now parroting.

Perhaps there are zero groups of 6 20-somethings. Perhaps the groups of 6 20-somethings make up 1% of renters.

As I wrote, the Villages is a big place and I spend my time in a small corner of it so maybe I’ve missed all the action.

Papa_lecki 02-25-2025 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2411991)
My neither of the carts I've owned had our names, nor any decal.

My wife refuses to but our names on our carts.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-25-2025 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2411560)
The Developer may control the local elected officials, but not the voters.

I'm sure there are plenty of folks in The Villages who have experience with Voter Initiatives.
Curbing STR's & generating tax revenue from the ones that remain, seems like it would be a fairly easy sell to John Q. Public.

Yeah voter initiatives don't work so well in a state that requires 60% of the vote to pass something that the majority of voters want.

Normal 02-26-2025 01:48 AM

State of Florida Amendments aren’t Municipal
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2412016)
Yeah voter initiatives don't work so well in a state that requires 60% of the vote to pass something that the majority of voters want.

State of Florida initiatives are different. Municipal votes can be passed in local elections or your city commissioners can pass a tax. AirBnBs are extremely unpopular. You can’t outlaw them, but several cities have regulated them quite successfully. A neighboring homeowner shouldn’t pay the price of a rent and run AirBnB owner’s impact on their neighborhood with a lower home value, sporadic adaptations and a revolving door of neighboring groups often larger than 2 guests.

DarrenandKathy 02-26-2025 06:52 AM

A bunch of people on here are saying they chose the Villages as a quiet residential neighbourhood to enjoy a quiet life.
That is certainly not what the Villages has been promoting. It has always been sold as “Disney For Adults”
Even have brochures that show you how you can make money renting your place out.
Sorry but without the STR this place would cease to exist as you know it today.
The constant influx of people is what keeps the local businesses, courses and amenities alive.
Make no mistake this place has never been sold as a quiet place to retire. It talks about the vibrant active lifestyle.
Villages love STR as they keep the monster fed.


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