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Bill14564 06-18-2024 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Battlebasset (Post 2341783)
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If I want to water my plants with a hose in summer, I literally have to run two gallons into a bucket to get the water cool enough to not boil the plants.

A 100ft garden hose holds a little over 1.5 gals of water. So sure, running the 1.5gals of hot water out of the hose and then a little more to absorb the heat of the hose itself makes sense.

(Boiling? Literally 212 degrees?)

MrFlorida 06-18-2024 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2341936)
Very confused. If you want to comment on someones post is that not addressing another poster? This is done here all the time.

When is it ok and when is it not?

You can quote, but not attack or abuse another poster.

Battlebasset 06-18-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2342091)
A 100ft garden hose holds a little over 1.5 gals of water. So sure, running the 1.5gals of hot water out of the hose and then a little more to absorb the heat of the hose itself makes sense.

(Boiling? Literally 212 degrees?)

Yes, I understand that 212 degree Fahrenheit is boiling. And 100 degrees Celsius. And 373 Kelvin. It was a little hyperbole.

Guess I should have said wilt. :sigh:

crilemd 06-18-2024 12:07 PM

Great answer
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Stu from NYC 06-18-2024 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2342117)
You can quote, but not attack or abuse another poster.

People do criticize others posts all the time. Guess it is up to the severity of the criticism that gets one into trouble

AZ SLIM 06-18-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Berwin (Post 2341777)
My in-laws who lived in Sun City, AZ would turn off their water heater in the summer and use the hot water tap for cold water and the cold water tap for hot water. The water heater was inside so it was in the air conditioned space and much cooler that way.

Yes, we lived in Lake Havasu City AZ where it could be 115f for days at a time with an occasional bump to 120. In the summer we would turn the water heater off and at times the cold tap water was too hot to take a shower. Our heater was in the garage so that was just as hot as outside. Enjoy Florida!

JMintzer 06-18-2024 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2341936)
Very confused. If you want to comment on someones post is that not addressing another poster? This is done here all the time.

When is it ok and when is it not?

When you figure it out, please let me know...

JMintzer 06-18-2024 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2342117)
You can quote, but not attack or abuse another poster.

That's not what the Moderator said in that other thread...

Pairadocs 06-18-2024 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 2341486)
Not to mention the ground temp is probably 70 degrees, so then are the pipes.

Right...LOL... Florida, Minnesota, two very different situations... LOL ! On the other hand, one saves a lot of $$$$ in Florida since using "hot" water in the shower or tub is completely unnecessary....LOL !

Pairadocs 06-18-2024 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Glowing Horizon (Post 2342083)
Good answer. Thanks for the giggle.

Yes, obviously it has to be that evil, nebulous, mystic, being called "the developer".....LOL, it's good to smile in these tense times !

HORNET 06-20-2024 04:55 PM

Water doesn’t come from the water tanks, the water tanks are to control line pressure and eliminate surge pressure.

Stu from NYC 06-20-2024 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2342200)
When you figure it out, please let me know...

Have asked on two threads and no answer. Apparently if I say something civil on a post it is ok.

mtdjed 06-20-2024 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2342837)
Water doesn’t come from the water tanks, the water tanks are to control line pressure and eliminate surge pressure.

I am guessing that the above statement is not totally correct. Yes, the tanks are there to control line pressure. But they are also there to provide a reservoir of water to cover peak usage periods. Low usage times will allow the tanks to gain water, and high usage times allow the stored water in the tanks to supplement the incoming water being pumped from the source.

It would seem that the above post was basically saying that not all water used in the system comes from directly from the tanks.

ton80 06-21-2024 08:44 AM

Potable Water Currently is about 86F Coming into House
 
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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2342866)
I am guessing that the above statement is not totally correct. Yes, the tanks are there to control line pressure. But they are also there to provide a reservoir of water to cover peak usage periods. Low usage times will allow the tanks to gain water, and high usage times allow the stored water in the tanks to supplement the incoming water being pumped from the source.

It would seem that the above post was basically saying that not all water used in the system comes from directly from the tanks.


That is correct. The water usually comes directly from the pump station. Typically the elevated tank is on level control to maintain a relatively constant level/ pressure in the distribution piping as described above based on the water distribution systems I have seen. If there is more demand than the pumps can provide water can come from the tank, but this should be rare and stored amount is limited. Normally the tank inventory is stagnant and potable water does not enter the tank.

Potable water coming into the house is currently about 86F based on temperature readings after running water for a few minutes to clear the piping entering the garage. If you have a set of water filters sitting in your garage the water can be heated some more just sitting in your hot garage. Running water will never make it cooler in summer. The soil temp is about 86F or more when the air temp is 90F.

Actually the water in pipes under air conditioned space get some minor cooling since your floor temp approaches your AC setting say 75F. However once you remove the small inventory of "cooled" water in the pipes under the slab you are back to the outside heated water.
Cool water from the refrigerator as recommended by many is the answer.

Keefelane66 06-21-2024 10:51 AM

Water towers are placed to provide a constant pressure instead of running pumps 24/7
“ In order to regulate and maintain pressure and water levels throughout a system, water towers are used to store treated water and manage flow. One pipe typically controls both the intake and outtake from the storage area.”


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