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villagetinker 12-30-2014 05:02 PM
Maybe the solution would be a "Resident" ID, with a specific time limit, and no photo ID, but a link to the person requesting the additional ID. The time limit could be 6 months, maybe a year. The additional pass would state something like ONLY VALID WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY Mr/Ms J. Q. Public". In his manner, singles would be able to take their current date to TV functions when together, but the 'date' would not be able to use the card alone
This is my humble idea, please do not shoot the messenger.

mickey100 12-30-2014 05:16 PM
Now we all know that the Developer doesn't make any mistakes, at least according to some on this forum. Everything is well thought out, and The Villages is just perfect as it is. So the standard line is "if you dont like it you can leave".

I don't happen to agree with that philosophy, by the way. And I do see your points about singles.

Sable99 12-30-2014 05:17 PM
I agree with Joe!

dbussone 12-30-2014 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckySevens (Post 987855)
That's not the only unfair rule in The Villages. If you buy a trail pass for your golf cart (for golfing), it costs a single person as much as a couple....
$140.+ per year. I know.........'it's all about the DEED', but that still doesn't make it fair for the singles. IMHO it should be changed to be more fair. (It doesn't affect me because I am married)
I believe that's because the pass is for the house, not any specific number of people.

njbchbum 12-30-2014 05:47 PM
Why not take the guest pass dilemma to the Villages Homeowner Association?

The Villages Homeowners Association Home Page - The Villages Homeowners Association

manaboutown 12-30-2014 06:02 PM
Thank you for bringing this up Joe. There must be a readily implementable, satisfactory and workable solution out there.

The demographic reality is more and more 55 and over people are single/divorced/widowed and remaining so (another baby boomer trend?).

This pass issue has been and continues to be a primary concern for me as a potential single Villager. As it stands, singles are subsidizing the two or more folks households because the amenities fees are paid on a per household basis rather than a per person basis.

I like the previously proposed idea of having a pass that allows single resident Villagers to bring outside dates to Villagers only facilities and events. These passes could be restricted to "only when accompanies by the identified single Villager".

Beechie 12-30-2014 06:21 PM
Totally agree with 2BNTV. There should be a second ID issued to the deed holder and registered as "Sponsored User ID". Seems simple enough and should be pushed through to fruition.

newguyintv 12-30-2014 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 987806)
Being a single person, I have only one complaint about TV.

You only get one resident I.D. and married couples get two. I know the rules that it goes by the names on the deed, etc. I still think this is unfair.

If a single person meets someone outside of TV and who wants to take their date to a resident function where they need to produce a resident I.D. and or gets into a relationship, the other person does not have access as the resident does, because the single person has one resident I.D.

I know people will respond that "it is what it is", but the singles get screwed. IMHO

It indicates one needs to live with a person, if they want to enjoy their company in TV environment. It seems to be a little far fetch option, as opposed to, getting two resident I.D's. Would it kill everything about TV, if single people got an second or resident/guest I.D? How many extra I.D's. would need to be distributed?

I know it's the developer ballpark and he/she can take his/her bat and ball home, if someone states a different point of view. It seems like a form of discrimination, against the single populace.

This has been discussed before but would like to see if there are any options, to changing this scenario.

Just waiting for the married people to say BOO-HOO!!! :D
Wrong Joe! Why not my Grandkids, Why not my Ex Wife, why not my Aunts and Uncles, why not my girlfriends who my wife doesn't know about, and why not just anybody who you think should be exempt. Follow the rules like the rest of us do!

Beechie 12-30-2014 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by newguyintv (Post 987923)
Wrong Joe! Why not my Grandkids, Why not my Ex Wife, why not my Aunts and Uncles, why not my girlfriends who my wife doesn't know about, and why not just anybody who you think should be exempt. Follow the rules like the rest of us do!
Joe hasn't broken any rules and is simply suggesting a fair solution to his and I'm sure many others problem who are in the same situation. Why would any of the existing two member ID households have an issue with 2BNTV's request? Is the cost of a home cheaper for single owners? Fair would be distribute two per household regardless of deed ownership.

What happens when a spouse passes in TV? Does the ID pass of the deceased get revoked?

janmcn 12-30-2014 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by newguyintv (Post 987923)
Wrong Joe! Why not my Grandkids, Why not my Ex Wife, why not my Aunts and Uncles, why not my girlfriends who my wife doesn't know about, and why not just anybody who you think should be exempt. Follow the rules like the rest of us do!

All of these people would get TV ID's if they are on your deed, with the possible exception of the grandkids depending on their ages.

If we didn't embrace change, women would not be voting, same sex marriage would be impossible, etc etc etc.

Perhaps it's time for TV to move into the 21st century. Does anybody know how other retirement communities handle their ID cards?

Baileysmom 12-30-2014 07:37 PM
I completely agree with Joe and think this is unfair. I was explaining this recently to some friends and they doubted me, thinking it was absurd. Sadly it is true and does need to be examined.

ziggie 12-30-2014 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by newguyintv (Post 987923)
Wrong Joe! Why not my Grandkids, Why not my Ex Wife, why not my Aunts and Uncles, why not my girlfriends who my wife doesn't know about, and why not just anybody who you think should be exempt. Follow the rules like the rest of us do!
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rosygail 12-30-2014 08:00 PM
Seems to me a resident ID is only for residents. Guess passes should be available for significant others, but limited to use when with the resident. We should not have permanent guess passes floating around. You know they would be abused!

DonH57 12-30-2014 08:36 PM
According to the current rules a resident can only bring a guest to a function requiring guest passes if they reside outside sumter, lake, or Marion counties. So if a male resident wants to bring a female to an event she must be from outside the three surrounding counties to get a guest pass. Is that not correct? There should be some provision allowing for a companion pass, if you will, for single residents. That's the way I see it.

DougB 12-30-2014 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 987939)
All of these people would get TV ID's if they are on your deed, with the possible exception of the grandkids depending on their ages.

If we didn't embrace change, women would not be voting, same sex marriage would be impossible, etc etc etc.

Perhaps it's time for TV to move into the 21st century. Does anybody know how other retirement communities handle their ID cards?
A person does not need to be "on the deed" to get a resident ID.


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