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ElDiabloJoe 12-24-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2169422)
North is the other side of the Mason Dixon line.

And for those unaware, the Mason-Dixon Line is a geographic divider created by men named Mason and Dixon. Essentially it is Maryland's upper border and Pennsylvania's lower border. While Maryland is, technically, in "The South" it is usually considered a northern state because it was a "free" state in the Civil War era. Washington D.C., Baltimore, and alllll of Virginia are below the Mason-Dixon Line. Take it from a guy raised 30 miles south of that line in the City of Spires.

Bobro44 12-24-2022 11:20 AM

It’s All Relative. We’re from the Detroit area and, like most friends here from Ohio, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Wisconsin, etc, we refer to back home as North or Up North. In Michigan when heading up into the northern part of the Lower Peninsula for summer cottages and winter skiing, we always said we were going Up North. Even more nuanced, a Detroit newspaper once polled readers and found the term most accurately applied to north of Clare, MI, a town in the middle of the state regarded as the lower range of Michigan’s snow belt.

jayteadunn 12-24-2022 12:12 PM

I was standing in a country grocery store in Vermont listening to two old timers talk about flatlanders. One man said to the other that he moved from the Colorado mountains to Vermont 20 years prior and was still considered a flatlander.

JMintzer 12-24-2022 12:39 PM

Being from MD, I always found it odd that people from New England consider us "Southerners" and people from the South consider us "Northerners"...

CoachKandSportsguy 12-24-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2169558)
Being from MD, I always found it od that people from New England consider us "Southerners" and people from the South consider us "Northerners"...

caught in the middle. . .

mid atlantickers just doesn't roll up the tongue well

jrzeis@tampabay.rr.com 12-24-2022 01:17 PM

TV is the north for me
 
I moved north to TV from Tampa

nhtexasrn 12-24-2022 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by b0bd0herty (Post 2169313)
Anything South of Game of Throne's Ice Wall is "South." I think it's appropriate!

When we tell people we're from Texas, they kind of look at us funny. It gets cold in Texas too! LOL

LuvNH 12-24-2022 01:39 PM

I heard on the weather this morning, a weather man refer to the West Coast as North West and the East Coast as North East. Easy peezy.

bark4me 12-24-2022 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2169225)
So, I’m brand new to Florida, coming from Colorado. I hear lots of people in TV refer to “The North”, or going back home to “The North”. I usually find out they are referring to the mid-Atlantic, New England or the Mid West. Technically, Colorado is north of Florida, but it is way more west than it is north. It seems weird to me to refer to Colorado as “North”. In conversations with people, they seem to refer to any state other than Florida as “North”. Do those of you from Pacific and Rocky Mt states say you are going north, or going west when going back home?

Well you're clearly not going west of TV as that would be the Gulf coast of Florida. Colorado is northwest of TV so why not just say that? Seems easy enough.

ldj1938 12-24-2022 02:33 PM

The Gulf coast is the "left" coast.

RICH1 12-25-2022 04:47 AM

It’s a term of Endearment! …. Like a “ snowbird”. If everyone stayed here for the summer, this place would run out of fun!

Milo's mom 12-25-2022 06:54 AM

West

Cgawerec 12-25-2022 08:14 AM

I too am from Colorado and I say when we go home, going out west. Will always be west . Not north 💕

ron32162 12-25-2022 08:42 AM

How about the Mason- Dixon line. Most people were taught that in the 5th grade

AlfaWard 12-25-2022 09:20 AM

Growing up in "the North" we were taught the Civil War definitions of "the North vs the South". Wasn't until I moved to The South that the Civil War was not called that "here in the South". Rather it was defined as "the war of Northern aggression" and many in NC, SC, and GA still use that connotation. Odd they DO NOT include Florida in that list. haaa.

ElDiabloJoe 12-25-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AlfaWard (Post 2169766)
Growing up in "the North" we were taught the Civil War definitions of "the North vs the South". Wasn't until I moved to The South that the Civil War was not called that "here in the South". Rather it was defined as "the war of Northern aggression" and many in NC, SC, and GA still use that connotation. Odd they DO NOT include Florida in that list. haaa.

Funny you point that out. I spent a few years in a place, and my best friend from HS lived there a few years - a town in Maryland called Sharpsburg. The site of a large battle. Most people refer to it as Antietam, since that is what the winning side (north) called it. We still refer to it as the Battle of Sharpsburg.

daniel200 12-25-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2169225)
So, I’m brand new to Florida, coming from Colorado. I hear lots of people in TV refer to “The North”, or going back home to “The North”. I usually find out they are referring to the mid-Atlantic, New England or the Mid West. Technically, Colorado is north of Florida, but it is way more west than it is north. It seems weird to me to refer to Colorado as “North”. In conversations with people, they seem to refer to any state other than Florida as “North”. Do those of you from Pacific and Rocky Mt states say you are going north, or going west when going back home?

Some historical context: Back during the American revolution King George III sent a scout to the northern territories.
The scout returned and rushed to the King to deliver his report.
"Your Grace, the northerners are revolting!"

To which King George III replied, "I do know that they don't take a bath that often, but isn't it a bit too rude to call them that?"

Villages Kahuna 12-25-2022 10:09 AM

For me “up north” is Chicago. But my heritage of several generations is as a Yooper (the Upper Peninsula of Michigan). But if I want to go back even further, a lot of my ancestors lived in the far north of Finland, near the Arctic Circle!

sasman29 12-25-2022 10:30 AM

Everything is North of Florida.
 
Since Key West is the Southernmost point in the continental United States... Everything is North of Florida :-) :pepper2:

CoachKandSportsguy 12-25-2022 10:33 AM

confusion -> direction versus region
 
the OP's confusion is easily explained by the difference between direction versus colloquial description of the region, or the region in that direction. .

time to get back to family time

lindaelane 12-25-2022 10:35 AM

"The North"
 
This is how I think most people use it, though usage can vary, and I cannot guarantee I am right about the most common usage.

When I hear "the North" I think that means any state north of the Mason-Dixon Line. These states are east of the Mississippi or bordering the Mississippi.

I generally do not think people mean such places as Montana, Oregon, etc., but I know they could mean that because the semantics of the term are different for different people.

But I think saying "The Northwest" or just naming the state is more common than saying "the North" for northwestern states.

GmaLisaG 12-25-2022 11:40 AM

Very few were born and raised in Florida. I'm from Fort Lauderdale. Where are you from?

NewRealms 12-25-2022 11:55 AM

Michael, as a Floridian and having grown up in Miami almost everything is north. Unless you're from the Keys and we know why you're down there.

Carla B 12-25-2022 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Miekies (Post 2169455)
Where in Wyoming are you from? I'm from Cheyenne. Left when I was 18 because I wanted big city life, lol. We've been here a year in Florida

Hi Miekies, I'm from Cheyenne, also. My dad homesteaded with siblings in Niobrara County near Lusk before moving to Cheyenne. I also left for life in the big city. Many people end up in Denver, but it wasn't warm enough. Houston was, however, very warm! And big.

Where are you from in Texas?

Billy1 12-26-2022 06:56 AM

I grew up south of Tampa and I moved up north to the Villages.

runkcrun 12-26-2022 09:29 AM

I say "up north" when referring to the other side of 466. 🤣

coffeebean 12-26-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 2169390)
My sense is when people use the term, "Up North", they mentally are saying it in a derogatory manner...... more like with a sneer. I automatically turn those people off as being close minded and lacking the ability to articulate their thoughts clearly.

I'm originally from New York and also lived in New Jersey many years. I refer to my old home as "up north" because...............wait for it...............that is where it is in relation to where I live now. LOL.

coffeebean 12-26-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rheinl271 (Post 2169398)
People from the South north of us say they’re going “down North” when they come to Florida. Lol.

Huh???? Never heard that one.


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