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golfing eagles 03-16-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1728329)
That is what I mean when I say we just did not work with them at all, and their tests have worked where used.

Which would have been a great idea that I fully support. My question whether or not some government regulation prevented the US from accepting WHO test kits? And I don't think you can change a government regulation in a day (or a week or a month), the bureaucrats hate to drop even 1 of their "rules"

Bucco 03-16-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1728332)
Which would have been a great idea that I fully support. My question whether or not some government regulation prevented the US from accepting WHO test kits? And I don't think you can change a government regulation in a day (or a week or a month), the bureaucrats hate to drop even 1 of their "rules"

NO, it was not.

In cases of co ordination between bureaus within the country and other international bureaus you need qualified bureaucrats and organizations set up to handle JUST THAT.

The Pandemic Response Team was set up to do just that.....coordinate and move quickly. It works

rmd2 03-16-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Drdoug49 (Post 1728186)
I was in Korea a month ago, this virus is coming and coming hard to America

Why were you in Korea? Just asking.

Bucco 03-16-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1728332)
Which would have been a great idea that I fully support. My question whether or not some government regulation prevented the US from accepting WHO test kits? And I don't think you can change a government regulation in a day (or a week or a month), the bureaucrats hate to drop even 1 of their "rules"

Will all be discussed when this horrible thing is over, but I assure you that ONE single executive order would have done it.

I said phone call and from my experience that is all it would have taken,,,,but I am not involved so ......it will be talked about.

Now, we have to get good testing done and folks need to know when in order to calm down. The main criteria for testing is age and temp, and in The Villages, most will meet the age minimum.

So many roll outs discussed and so few tested,

but let us hope that out of this terrible situation, we establish once again HOW to handle and simply do it. Bureaucrats are not bad people......they turn the wheels and are vital in any large government, or corporation.

Rich42 03-16-2020 09:56 AM

I saw tents in the hospital parking lot this morning. Could this be for the drive thru testing?

rmd2 03-16-2020 10:00 AM

Premier
 
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Originally Posted by BeauJangles (Post 1728291)
Premier is opening the testing for their patients.

My understanding is that it's for everyone but you need to call and speak with one of their doctors first to discuss your situation.

Johnarch 03-16-2020 10:35 AM

Always positive to learn from others. Puts us ahead of the curve. Blessings and good health to all

brunogal 03-16-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1728332)
Which would have been a great idea that I fully support. My question whether or not some government regulation prevented the US from accepting WHO test kits? And I don't think you can change a government regulation in a day (or a week or a month), the bureaucrats hate to drop even 1 of their "rules"

No. When WHO surveyed countries needs for testing kits, US said 'no thank you' as we wanted to be in control of that aspect; award our own contracts. When first kits were rolled out into the system, they were faulty. There's currently an investigation on what the hell happened there. Pretty clear: it's still about money and rewarding contracts folks, not about humanity.

golfing eagles 03-16-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by loribellitt (Post 1728386)
No. When WHO surveyed countries needs for testing kits, US said 'no thank you' as we wanted to be in control of that aspect; award our own contracts. When first kits were rolled out into the system, they were faulty. There's currently an investigation on what the hell happened there. Pretty clear: it's still about money and rewarding contracts folks, not about humanity.

Source???????

Mendy 03-16-2020 11:20 AM

Must Read
 
Well worth the 20 minutes to read the following three articles that were recently published to learn more about why this is so important for us to do:

Flattening the Coronavirus Curve - The New York Times

Coronavirus is past containment, but USA can limit scope of epidemic

Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now - Tomas Pueyo - Medium

HappyRetired 03-16-2020 11:22 AM

Premier Medical Group is not connected to The Villages. They are a private practice with offices in The Villages. The community itself has no testing facilities (at least not advertised.) Details are not quite what they seem in the article.

ffresh 03-16-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by David Fletcher (Post 1728282)
We all live by the choices we make. In the case of Covid-19 many may suffer from the choices made by a few.

Some strongly believe the world is flat, that’s ok, it will not hurt me!

This my friends is a different matter. It is not about ones liberty it is about preserving our right to living in freedom.

Unfortunately many of us do not understand the difference!

True BUT … how is that any different from other decisions made by a member of a social organization/community and the resulting affect on others? If you party too much at the squares and drive home and have an accident, doesn't someone else suffer from the choice you made? If one is a drug addict and kills or robs to support his habit, doesn't that affect the welfare of others? If some choose to refrain from gainful employment and we all have to pay for their "needs" isn't that affecting all of us? In essence, most choices made by others in a community can have an affect on others of that community. That is the unfortunate fact of living as social beings. The choices of others, good or bad, can, ultimately, affect the welfare of others of that group - covid-19 is no different in that regard.

Fred

Velvet 03-16-2020 12:08 PM

Many posts in the pasts have indicated the worry about the hospital situation in TV - it is not new, it’s one of the few things my aunt used to complain about all the time since 2005 when my uncle needed help. Looks like health care is NOT a priority. To attract good doctors etc there must be nice places for their families to live as well as good salaries and facilities.

Bucco 03-16-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1728389)
Source???????

Not sure what your intent is here........but this is a very general rundown of the highlights........you obviously are limited in your reading, not an insult, simply this is all common knowledge and it happened very quickly.

US coronavirus testing problems: timeline of delays, errors - Business Insider

But you seem to want to downplay the seriousness of this....MISTAKE.....MISTAKE.

Be safe...share help for other folks on here....information you may know....not exactly sure what your motivation is. WILL leave it at that

dewilson58 03-16-2020 01:59 PM

One confirmed in Lake County. Travel related.

golfing eagles 03-16-2020 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1728468)
Not sure what your intent is here........but this is a very general rundown of the highlights........you obviously are limited in your reading, not an insult, simply this is all common knowledge and it happened very quickly.

US coronavirus testing problems: timeline of delays, errors - Business Insider

But you seem to want to downplay the seriousness of this....MISTAKE.....MISTAKE.

Be safe...share help for other folks on here....information you may know....not exactly sure what your motivation is. WILL leave it at that

Intent?????

That's easy---to ascertain factual information and distinguish it from personal opinions and political views during a health care crisis. When someone posts that the US government refused WHO test kits, I want to know how they knew that. Politico is not a reliable source since they have a political agenda. When someone posts COVID-19 is coming here and going to hit "hard", I will call that out as speculation. This is a VIRUS, probably originated in Wuton, China. It is NOT "Trump's virus" nor is it "Obama's virus", it is simply a virus. Beyond that I'm just providing only a little expert medical information, since I believe people should get their information from the CDC and state health departments.

That being said, just what is YOUR intent????

Oh, BTW, I forgot that I must be "limited in my reading" Maybe I never learned to read, glad I have you to explain it to me. I'll leave it at that

BHWitcher 03-16-2020 02:28 PM

Don’t be foolish, listen intelligently not hysterically, but listen and prepare.

ffresh 03-16-2020 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1728482)
Intent?????

That's easy---to ascertain factual information and distinguish it from personal opinions and political views during a health care crisis. When someone posts that the US government refused WHO test kits, I want to know how they knew that. Politico is not a reliable source since they have a political agenda. When someone posts COVID-19 is coming here and going to hit "hard", I will call that out as speculation. This is a VIRUS, probably originated in Wuton, China. It is NOT "Trump's virus" nor is it "Obama's virus", it is simply a virus. Beyond that I'm just providing only a little expert medical information, since I believe people should get their information from the CDC and state health departments.

That being said, just what is YOUR intent????

Oh, BTW, I forgot that I must be "limited in my reading" Maybe I never learned to read, glad I have you to explain it to me. I'll leave it at that

One would think that what you had to spell out would be self evident!

Fred

golfing eagles 03-16-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ffresh (Post 1728577)
One would think that what you had to spell out would be self evident!

Fred

Not to some people, but then again my reading is "limited"

Schneil 03-16-2020 08:21 PM

so true, but I don't think they were expecting people just to pull up in their golf carts!! Without the referral.

ColdNoMore 03-16-2020 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by loribellitt (Post 1728386)
No. When WHO surveyed countries needs for testing kits, US said 'no thank you' as we wanted to be in control of that aspect; award our own contracts. When first kits were rolled out into the system, they were faulty. There's currently an investigation on what the hell happened there. Pretty clear: it's still about money and rewarding contracts folks, not about humanity.

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1728389)
Source???????

Sure.

Here's a good, legitimate and scientific...source.
:ho:


Science Magazine (click here)

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Speed is critical in the response to COVID-19. So why has the United States been so slow in its attempt to develop reliable diagnostic tests and use them widely?

The World Health Organization (WHO) has shipped testing kits to 57 countries. China had five commercial tests on the market 1 month ago and can now do up to 1.6 million tests a week; South Korea has tested 65,000 people so far. The U. S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in contrast, has done only 459 tests since the epidemic began.

The problems have led many to doubt that the official tally of 60 confirmed cases in the United States is accurate. “There have been blunders, and there could be an underlying catastrophe that we don’t know about,” says epidemiologist Michael Mina, who helps run a microbiology testing lab at Brigham and Women’s Hospital. “It’s been very complicated and confusing for everyone with almost no clarity being provided by the CDC.”


Northwoods 03-16-2020 09:33 PM

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Northwoods 03-16-2020 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1728329)
That is what I mean when I say we just did not work with them at all, and their tests have worked where used.

"US cooperation with WHO was late also"

Quoting a forensic scientist today on Twitter"..

"The decision to not accept the testing kits from the World Health Organization in early February after 60 countries had done so will prove to be a deadly mistake on an order of magnitude that we probably can’t even imagine."

Why does this have to be "political?" (What we didn't do). 20/20 hindsight is so easy.
I really wish people would talk about what we can do to mitigate this situation... share best practices people have heard...
Our focus should be on what we can do to minimize the impact of this virus. Pointing fingers does nothing to help us cope with this situation.

Velvet 03-16-2020 10:34 PM

I agree with Northwoods. We need to pull together to overcome this virus.


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