Simple Question
 

What is the payback for those who insist Mask's are not needed. Is it just plain stupidity, or to compensate for an inferior complex and want to appear smarter than they are, etc? All serious and knowledgeable experts agree they are the first protection against a spread
of the serious health risks. Again, what is their payback for trying to mislead people from their beliefs? :ho:

I am uncomfortable with the inconsiderate people who refuse to believe in science like the Big Boss.

The fix is simple: The squares have barricades, no one gets in without a mask. If you don't want to wear a mask....STAY AWAY!

It’s not a law to wear a shirt in a store, but we do. It’s a policy, just like wearing a mask.

You truly believe most people are in agreement with wearing a mask?

I was at Lake Sumter Saturday and there was no masks at square

Maybe there could be designated mask and no mask squares?:duck:

That's right the virus is not going away and will get worse because we locked-down. We are human beings and some of the measures have been totally inhumane. Hopefully, we know a lot more after 8 months, however, what I hear from Doctors around the US they are NOT allowed to practice medicine based on the individual, they are DICTATED how to treat people. Many doctors agree the lock down only prolonged the life of the virus and now we have lost why we locked down in the first place If you are at risk stay home otherwise we have a 99.7% chance of recovery and if you don't damage your immune systems with fear, anger, weight gain and stress you may not get it at all.

I continue be amazed at how many folks seem to think everyone they encounter has the virus, when in fact, several days ago Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO Health Emergencies Program Director, said their best guess is that 10% of the world's population has been infected, or about 750 million people. WHO's data says that about 1 million people have died from it. Disregarding whether they died "from" it or "with" it, doing the basic math:

1,000,000 ÷ 750,000,000 = .0013
.0013 x 100 = 0.13% death rate of those infected

OR 99.87% of everyone who gets it survive.

Covid-19: World in ‘for a hell of a ride’ in coming months, Dr Mike Ryan says

There have been 7.7 million cases in the USA, well below the 10% figure above. The 2009 H1N1 flu infected over 60,000,000 people. Which one was more contagious? The average death rate for the seasonal flu is 0.1% vs. 0.13% to Covid-19. No one batted an eye back then thinking they might get the flu and so many ITT in a panic for this.

Also, 40% of the deaths in the USA are from nursing homes because the governors of 4 or 5 states thought it was smart to put covid patients into them.

This man-made China virus is here to stay.... if you are scared, stay home... we must live our life... you are responsible for your safety and health... not Village entertainment.

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If you like or dislike wearing a mask don’t go to the entertainment, it’s your choice. Besides how are they going to enforce it, tell you to leave & make a resident mad. I know they can tell you to leave but that won’t make TV look good. So if a mask keeps you safe & you wear one, great. If you don’t wear one that’s up to you, but at least the ones that wear one, they say your safe & if you don’t wear one & get Covid19. That was your choice!

I’m just so nonplussed by the number of people who complain about who has in masks and who doesn’t. If you need a mask, wear it. If you don’t agree with masks, don’t wear it. If you feel safe being around other humans, be there. If you don’t feel safe, don’t be there. Stop the constant complaining.

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Add the visual of a loved one entering the hospital and that may well be the last time they will see each other!!

The realities of what some have endured and are enduring.

All of a sudden bickering about whether to wear a mask fades to insignificance!!!

You may not know you even have Covid-19. I do all of the shopping, banking, dog walking, etc., in this household because my parents do not get around that well any more. I donate platelets at One Blood and they check temperatures at the door and STILL require you wear a mask while donating. They also test for Corona Virus so the blood supply does not get contaminated. I have tested negative 9 times since late May 2020 but can imagine my getting the disease as my guard is not always up. I cannot keep it up at all times as there are so many things I touch in a given day. I do use hand sanitizer frequently.

Listen to the physicians, nurses, etc., who deal with this disease every day and ignore anyone who has a personal or other interest in your wearing a mask.

Dear Snotes,
How can we socially distance (6ft or more) while dancing? Its hard & takes the fun out of it. Even in a line dance its difficult to spread out that far.
IMO if I wear a mask, I am protected. If others do not, maybe they are taking a risk but maybe not. Maybe they know they have their own antibodies from being tested or know they have a robust immune system.

My thought is The Villages is not in charge of my health, I am. If I chose not to wear a mask and contracted the disease then it is my fault. I’m really tired of people not taking responsibility for their actions and then blaming it on someone else.

The damage caused by the shut down is not really entering into most discussions and the actual damage may not be know for years. But I do not find it hard to believe that for some the damage will be significant.
For masks, I try and avoid places where they are not worn. Remember the masks protects others from you. If you are in favor of trying to get back to normal as soon as possible wear a mask. You just hurt those that need to work and can not because you do not wear a mask.

Gracie, Is that one of your expressions of wisdom? I love it.

I'm a HUGE proponent of wearing masks INDOORS. Outdoors, the risk is minimal if you are distanced properly and follow CDC guidelines. I do not wear a mask outdoors when it is easy to keep my distance from others while sipping on an alcoholic beverage.

Hubby and I were at Edna's on the Green (outside) to see Johnny Wild perform. Social distancing was genuinely attempted from where we were seated. I did not see anyone wearing masks while seated but some masks were worn while waiting on line for bar drinks. Social distancing was not really adhered to while on line for the bar.

I felt safe enough to enjoy the couple of hours we were there.

Touch anything you like; just do not touch your face with unwashed or unsanitized hands. Easy.

Noted epidemiologist Michael Olsterholm predicted 2 months ago that the White House would suffer a spike. He said that the US has 57,000 new cases per day recently and he expects 100,000 new cases per day to occur soon. You can Google him. He said that the rapid tests used by the White House are worthless. They will give a negative reading 50% of the time for a positive individual. He says those tests are the equivalent of having the Secret Service carry water pistols against an assassination attempt. He states that the current way the US and Europe are opening up is a recipe for a disaster. He blames it on "Covid fatigue" and some other factors like the winter weather.

Note that Australia and Asian Countries have done MUCH better!

While there is no law requiring you do do anything just as a basic Covid fact that you both have wrong (backwards): For the most part, YOU wearing a mask does NOT protect YOU it protects those around YOU FROM YOU. By YOU choosing not to wear a mask you could POSSIBLY risk others health FROM YOU.

After 8 months of this and hundreds of message threads about masks and millions of articles and reports one would think at least that basic fact would be understood. Masks are meant mainly to protect OTHERS FROM YOU (and to a very small extent YOU from OTHERS).

Agree!

You Tube has videos of droplet dispersal, with and without masks. That IS the PROOF. Of course, there are more factors like indoors vs outdoors etc.

Great post!

Er no, FLORIDA was the hotspot. Those states where these people have come from had reduced the risk significantly by mandating shutdowns, mask-wearing, and social distancing. We are the ones infecting them, not vice versa.

If the rate goes up it's because they have jumped into the petri dish that is Florida.

Sorry. There are MANY examples of spiking after an OUTDOOR event. The Tulsa campaign event was one. Outside is better, but there is still spread.

You missed the point. I was responding to a post that essentially asserted that using a mask outdoors would protect you from the coronavirus. That is not true. It may reduce the probability of you contracting the virus. By how much, is unknown.

The Florida coronvirus dashboard has the number of cases essentially flat for the last month and the number of deaths declining sharply.

Lol...but still laugh when a couple in a car pull up next to me and both are wearing masks.

But keeping us all safe...lol

The Sturgis motorcycle rally was another. The nomination ceremony the White House held outside in the rose garden for his supreme court pick....the list goes on and on....

Its 6:30 PM Monday night 10-12-20 I’m at Panera Bread in Lake Sumter Landing listening to the band in the square. About 150-175 people in the dance area. The sidewalks surrounding the square are filled with people standing and sitting. People are in their golf carts and in their cars with their windows down listening to the music. The outdoor seating at all the restaurants are filled. Maybe 10% have masks on. Everyone here appears to be in a happy mood and based on people’s interactions with one another not much fear. I think many people have weighed the risks and decided to go on with their lives without fear. And just like I’m not judging your decision to stay home or use caution you should feel the same way for your fellow Villager who are out enjoying themselves.

Theater, virtue signaling. Plain and simple. Where were the mask nazis in 2017, 2009? Every year there is a contagious flu. Why now? Theater.

The Tulsa rally was INDOORS.

There was an INDOOR reception for Judge Barrett prior to the gathering in the Rose Garden.

So my question is, does anyone actually believe Covid is suddenly more under control then when everything was shut down last a March? I personally think not, people are just burned out from the whole thing and have decided to make like an ostrich and bury their head in the sand and pretend the pandemic doesn’t exist? I guess time will tell?

Sturgis was traced to inside bars.

The press showed people scattered at the rose garden but transmission traced to the indoor reception prior.

The beast is airborne, mask up and minimize time in interior spaces with recirculated air.

The uncertainty of relying on testing only was clearly demonstrated.

Really? Tulsa was inside...