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coffeebean 10-12-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1846258)
If you like or dislike wearing a mask don’t go to the entertainment, it’s your choice. Besides how are they going to enforce it, tell you to leave & make a resident mad. I know they can tell you to leave but that won’t make TV look good. So if a mask keeps you safe & you wear one, great. If you don’t wear one that’s up to you, but at least the ones that wear one, they say your safe & if you don’t wear one & get Covid19. That was your choice!

Hubby and I were at Edna's on the Green (outside) to see Johnny Wild perform. Social distancing was genuinely attempted from where we were seated. I did not see anyone wearing masks while seated but some masks were worn while waiting on line for bar drinks. Social distancing was not really adhered to while on line for the bar.

I felt safe enough to enjoy the couple of hours we were there.

coffeebean 10-12-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1846285)
You may not know you even have Covid-19. I do all of the shopping, banking, dog walking, etc., in this household because my parents do not get around that well any more. I donate platelets at One Blood and they check temperatures at the door and STILL require you wear a mask while donating. They also test for Corona Virus so the blood supply does not get contaminated. I have tested negative 9 times since late May 2020 but can imagine my getting the disease as my guard is not always up. I cannot keep it up at all times as there are so many things I touch in a given day. I do use hand sanitizer frequently.

Listen to the physicians, nurses, etc., who deal with this disease every day and ignore anyone who has a personal or other interest in your wearing a mask.

Touch anything you like; just do not touch your face with unwashed or unsanitized hands. Easy.

jimjamuser 10-12-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by len84pa (Post 1845705)
It was my understanding that the town squares would open with entertainment and require masks be worn by EVERYONE. How can the Village Entertainment be so careless with peoples lives. The last time I checked, Florida's positive test rate and death rate is still increasing. This virus is NOT going away, in fact, it will get worse as the winter months approach until a certified vaccine is developed.

Stop giving in to a few who still believe this virus is a hoax.

Noted epidemiologist Michael Olsterholm predicted 2 months ago that the White House would suffer a spike. He said that the US has 57,000 new cases per day recently and he expects 100,000 new cases per day to occur soon. You can Google him. He said that the rapid tests used by the White House are worthless. They will give a negative reading 50% of the time for a positive individual. He says those tests are the equivalent of having the Secret Service carry water pistols against an assassination attempt. He states that the current way the US and Europe are opening up is a recipe for a disaster. He blames it on "Covid fatigue" and some other factors like the winter weather.

Note that Australia and Asian Countries have done MUCH better!

EdFNJ 10-12-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LG999 (Post 1846297)
Dear Snotes,
How can we socially distance (6ft or more) while dancing? Its hard & takes the fun out of it. Even in a line dance its difficult to spread out that far.
IMO if I wear a mask, I am protected. If others do not, maybe they are taking a risk but maybe not. Maybe they know they have their own antibodies from being tested or know they have a robust immune system.

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Originally Posted by cassjax2 (Post 1846300)
My thought is The Villages is not in charge of my health, I am. If I chose not to wear a mask and contracted the disease then it is my fault. I’m really tired of people not taking responsibility for their actions and then blaming it on someone else.

While there is no law requiring you do do anything just as a basic Covid fact that you both have wrong (backwards): For the most part, YOU wearing a mask does NOT protect YOU it protects those around YOU FROM YOU. By YOU choosing not to wear a mask you could POSSIBLY risk others health FROM YOU.

After 8 months of this and hundreds of message threads about masks and millions of articles and reports one would think at least that basic fact would be understood. Masks are meant mainly to protect OTHERS FROM YOU (and to a very small extent YOU from OTHERS).

coffeebean 10-12-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1846392)
While there is no law requiring you do do anything just as a basic Covid fact that you both have wrong (backwards): For the most part, YOU wearing a mask does NOT protect YOU it protects those around YOU FROM YOU. By YOU choosing not to wear a mask you could POSSIBLY risk others health FROM YOU.

After 8 months of this and hundreds of message threads about masks and millions of articles and reports one would think at least that basic fact would be understood. Masks are meant mainly to protect OTHERS FROM YOU (and to a very small extent YOU from OTHERS).

Agree!

jimjamuser 10-12-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1845952)
If you think the science says that a mask will prevent you from developing COVID-19 then you are mistaken. Nobody has made that claim.

You Tube has videos of droplet dispersal, with and without masks. That IS the PROOF. Of course, there are more factors like indoors vs outdoors etc.

jimjamuser 10-12-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1846079)
It is my personal observation that the earth is flat, except when you encounter a hill, and then it goes up and down.

And yet...

Personal observations are viewed through the lens of myopathy. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just because you don't know it, doesn't mean it's not true. And just because you think it, doesn't mean it IS true.

That is why god invented science.

Meanwhile, a lot of people living in The Villages has forgotten that "the bubble" is not a compliment. It is a pretty derogatory term for narrow-mindedness and insular thinking. If it doesn't happen to me, or anyone I'm friendly with, then it really doesn't matter at all.

And that's all well and good. But I personally prefer civilization, and all is different shades and varieties of good, bad, and inbetween.

Great post!

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-12-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Skunky1 (Post 1846155)
They seem to be catering to the snowflakes and snowbirds. They are coming from hotspots all over the world and they’re bringing us a deadly present.

Er no, FLORIDA was the hotspot. Those states where these people have come from had reduced the risk significantly by mandating shutdowns, mask-wearing, and social distancing. We are the ones infecting them, not vice versa.

If the rate goes up it's because they have jumped into the petri dish that is Florida.

jimjamuser 10-12-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1846114)
The risk of transmission outside is very low. I'm not aware of any outbreaks traced to groups of people in exterior spaces.

We heard the same warnings after the summer protests, continuing golf, reopening Pickleball, etc... No infections traced to these outside activities.

Superspreader events happen in closed spaces with recirculated air. Wear masks and minimize exposure time in those spaces.

Sorry. There are MANY examples of spiking after an OUTDOOR event. The Tulsa campaign event was one. Outside is better, but there is still spread.

biker1 10-12-2020 03:44 PM

You missed the point. I was responding to a post that essentially asserted that using a mask outdoors would protect you from the coronavirus. That is not true. It may reduce the probability of you contracting the virus. By how much, is unknown.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1846438)
You Tube has videos of droplet dispersal, with and without masks. That IS the PROOF. Of course, there are more factors like indoors vs outdoors etc.


biker1 10-12-2020 03:46 PM

The Florida coronvirus dashboard has the number of cases essentially flat for the last month and the number of deaths declining sharply.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1846450)
Er no, FLORIDA was the hotspot. Those states where these people have come from had reduced the risk significantly by mandating shutdowns, mask-wearing, and social distancing. We are the ones infecting them, not vice versa.

If the rate goes up it's because they have jumped into the petri dish that is Florida.


Gpsma 10-12-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1846422)
Agree!

Lol...but still laugh when a couple in a car pull up next to me and both are wearing masks.

But keeping us all safe...lol

8notes 10-12-2020 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1846454)
Sorry. There are MANY examples of spiking after an OUTDOOR event. The Tulsa campaign event was one. Outside is better, but there is still spread.

The Sturgis motorcycle rally was another. The nomination ceremony the White House held outside in the rose garden for his supreme court pick....the list goes on and on....

Chitown 10-12-2020 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by len84pa (Post 1845705)
It was my understanding that the town squares would open with entertainment and require masks be worn by EVERYONE. How can the Village Entertainment be so careless with peoples lives. The last time I checked, Florida's positive test rate and death rate is still increasing. This virus is NOT going away, in fact, it will get worse as the winter months approach until a certified vaccine is developed.

Stop giving in to a few who still believe this virus is a hoax.

Its 6:30 PM Monday night 10-12-20 I’m at Panera Bread in Lake Sumter Landing listening to the band in the square. About 150-175 people in the dance area. The sidewalks surrounding the square are filled with people standing and sitting. People are in their golf carts and in their cars with their windows down listening to the music. The outdoor seating at all the restaurants are filled. Maybe 10% have masks on. Everyone here appears to be in a happy mood and based on people’s interactions with one another not much fear. I think many people have weighed the risks and decided to go on with their lives without fear. And just like I’m not judging your decision to stay home or use caution you should feel the same way for your fellow Villager who are out enjoying themselves.

Dayeight99 10-12-2020 06:15 PM

Theater, virtue signaling. Plain and simple. Where were the mask nazis in 2017, 2009? Every year there is a contagious flu. Why now? Theater.


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