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John Mayes 08-26-2021 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1994522)
FDA approves vaccine for emergency situation only:

"I ain't takin no danged vaccine, it's not even approved by the FDA! Experimentin on humans without our consent, that's what it is!"

1 week later, after the FDA gives full approval of the vaccine:

"Big pharma's gettin rich off our tax dollars on a drug they pushed through cause of politics! I ain't gettin no stankin jab!"

2 months later, after FDA approves experimental monoclonal antibody therapy:

"Martha, you go ahead to the square and enjoy yer line-dancin, I'mma git me some experimental jab, woo hoo!"

Because it just makes SO much sense.
Wow…..condescend much?

John Mayes 08-26-2021 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1994769)
LOL. If the shoe fits……….
Your superiority complex is peeking through.

John Mayes 08-26-2021 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1994630)
It isn't nice to make fun of how some Southerners, and other rural people talk. It would be offensive if someone made fun of the lack of linking verbs and other "different" ways of talking used by a lot of inner city poor people.

It is fine when we use it, but when outlander's poke fun at us, it makes me want to "tear the rag off the bush" and kick our best coon hound.

Wonderful and intelligent and hardworking people grow up and live in our rural areas of the country. They do not pronounce coffee as "cu-aw-fee" and don't visit Miami and keep yelling..."Jeffrey, get outa the watuh". And they grow up driving a car. Yes they do. They may even start with the tractor when they are 12, but they can drive a car all the way from the North to the South because they know how to drive a car. I love rural folks and some of them are Doctors and Lawyers and Scientists, but they still talk like the folks at home.

Help me down from here, someone.
Agree 100%. Amazing how some feel the need to deride others based on where they’re from.

stanley 08-26-2021 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 1994897)
Wow…..condescend much?
Always.

golfing eagles 08-26-2021 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1994881)
Thanks Happydaz for renewing my faith in the human race!! After reading all of the excuses to justify placing a serious medical facility in a populated area in the midst of a terrible deadly virus program I was losing my faith and resorting to accept a large portion of the Villages just don't get it. You did a fine job of identifying the risk and explaining the cause for concern! I personally would not go to Brownwood while this travesty is going on. Why risk your health when you don't have to?:)
Well, if that nonsense "renewed your faith in the human race", perhaps I can destroy it again. Nah, I'll skip the long explanation and simply say I know ten thousand times as much medicine as the person who posted that, and I'll be going to Brownwood again tomorrow, as I was there yesterday as well

kkingston57 08-26-2021 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1994454)
It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
Ask the governor why. He was here to promote it. In meantime, Sumter County has one of the highest % of vaccinations in the state.

blueash 08-26-2021 09:13 PM
Just one more opinion. I think the location is an excellent choice. A large building with room to spread out the patients, easy access from nearby parking, no stairs to climb.

If you think having 300 Covid positive people a day near Brownwood is something new, you haven't been paying attention. There is so much Delta being carried by nearly well people that you should assume you are constantly being exposed if you are mingling at a square.

The monoclonal antibody which I believe is being given here:


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REGEN-COV™ (casirivimab and imdevimab) eligibility and access sites
Treatment:
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has granted an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for REGEN-COV™ (casirivimab and imdevimab) for the treatment of mild to moderate coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in adults and pediatric patients (12 years of age and older weighing at least 40 kg) with positive results of direct SARS-CoV-2 viral testing, and who are at high risk for progression to severe COVID-19, including hospitalization or death.

Limitations of Authorized Use (Treatment)
REGEN-COV is not authorized for use in patients:
who are hospitalized due to COVID-19, OR
who require oxygen therapy due to COVID-19, OR
who require an increase in baseline oxygen flow rate due to COVID-19 in those on chronic oxygen therapy due to underlying non-COVID-19 related comorbidity
Monoclonal antibodies, such as REGEN-COV, may be associated with worse clinical outcomes when administered to hospitalized patients with COVID-19 requiring high-flow oxygen or mechanical ventilation
Post-Exposure Prophylaxis:
REGEN-COV is authorized in adult and pediatric individuals (12 years of age and older weighing at least 40 kg) for post-exposure prophylaxis of COVID-19 in individuals who are at high risk for progression to severe COVID-19, including hospitalization or death, and are:

not fully vaccinated or who are not expected to mount an adequate immune response to complete SARS-CoV-2 vaccination (for example, individuals with immunocompromising conditions including those taking immunosuppressive medications) and
have been exposed to an individual infected with SARS-CoV-2 consistent with close contact criteria per Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or
who are at high risk of exposure to an individual infected with SARS-CoV-2 because of occurrence of SARS-CoV-2 infection in other individuals in the same institutional setting (for example, nursing homes, prisons)
Limitations of Authorized Use (Post-Exposure Prophylaxis)
Post-exposure prophylaxis with REGEN-COV is not a substitute for vaccination against COVID-19
REGEN-COV is not authorized for pre-exposure prophylaxis for prevention of COVID-19
REGEN-COV has not been approved but has been authorized for emergency use by the FDA. These uses are authorized only for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of the emergency use under section 564(b)(1) of the Act, 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(b)(1), unless the authorization is terminated or revoked sooner.

Healthcare providers should review the  Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for information on the authorized uses of REGEN-COV.

EdFNJ 08-26-2021 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1994586)
I found this from Newsweek.

It isn't the New England Journal of Medicine but it isn't "Quackery Today" either.

Here it is;

DeSantis and Fauci, Who Sparred Throughout Pandemic, Agree on Monoclonal Antibody Treatment

Nobody in this thread is complaining about the TREATMENT or it's efficacy, just the LOCATION where it is given.

stadry 08-27-2021 04:44 AM
[QUOTE=golfing eagles;1994475]So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS isn' it ' outrages ,' really ?or, at least outages ?

donassaid 08-27-2021 05:05 AM
Never try to use common sense with hysterical people who are unhinged with irrational fear.

Goodbye Snow 08-27-2021 05:08 AM
Covid Treatment in Town Square
 
Not going to Brownwood until covid treatment site is moved. With all the medical offices why on earth would you put people at risk in a high volume area of people that are mingling on the sidewalks and businesses? I guess this is one way to keep people from coming for the "free" entertainment! I feel sorry for the businesses and the Village residents that like to go there in our golf cars for fun. No fun now too dangerous.

chenault55 08-27-2021 05:08 AM
Testing
 
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Originally Posted by SGR720 (Post 1994521)
The story in the Daily Sun does not mention the Savannah Center at all only at the Barnstorm Theater in Brownwood. Where did you get your info?
She said it would make more sense if they did it at Savannah Center not that they were going to.

Lindsyburnsy 08-27-2021 05:35 AM
Insane is right! It is also insane that people will stick their arm out for a specialized antibody treatment or take an animal dewormer rather than get a vaccination!

jswirs 08-27-2021 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1994875)
Apparently, you misunderstood. This miracle treatment was not developed by someone outside the scientific/medical community such as the governor.

I have to say I’m rather bemused by the vaccine and treatment hysteria. What is the goal for all the old people here writhing over the unvaccinated if and when all Americans are vaccinated? Everyday this country is inundated by non citizens visiting, flying in, walking in from wherever. How do you propose vaccinating everyone in the world? It isn’t going to happen and this virus or it’s mutant version most likely isn’t going anywhere.

Want to think about our biggest danger? If you watched the news today and heard about the deaths of 13 of this country’s finest, you’ll see there is much hatred and determination to bring our country down. Think about those living amongst us now with the annihilation of the USA as their only goal and they now have the capability and time to plot it all out. Now THAT is scary. It helps that everyone is so distracted...

You echo my sentiments...EXACTLY. The replies on this forum prove that common sense is not so common.

tvbound 08-27-2021 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1994953)
Insane is right! It is also insane that people will stick their arm out for a specialized antibody treatment or take an animal dewormer rather than get a vaccination!
Excellent point.

Rylee 08-27-2021 05:47 AM
They should put it on that vaccinated only, carnival cruise ship

drducat 08-27-2021 05:59 AM
We are fortunate to have this treatment available at all................

Other States are seeing a health care catastrophe occurring by vaccine mandates. Around 50% of workers are quitting and relocating to States that are not unvaccinated predators. Not looking good and is going to be a huge issue going forward.

Pachine58 08-27-2021 06:04 AM
Natural immunity from Covid infection could be stronger than vaccination. Israeli study suggests | Daily Mail Online dailymail.co.uk/health/article…
Now this science makes more sense

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9930855/Natural-immunity-Covid-infection-stronger-vaccination-Israeli-study-suggests.html

MidWestIA 08-27-2021 06:05 AM
mask
 
So if there is a demand for volume like that - makes you wonder about the risk of everybody walking around here without a mask doesn't it? Guess that says covid is here

Rosebud1949 08-27-2021 06:08 AM
The Morse Family need the Money !!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1994454)
It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
Why else would you rent out a central building in brownwood, and expose Village folk to Covid carriers, so they can get a TRIAL Vaccine... which is not proven to help. None of us sane folk can fathom why people would rather inject themselves with untried- untested horse medicines and others like monoclonal antibodies, than a tried proved vaccine that saves lives.

Until you mask indoors and get the vaccine this Virus will not go away. If you want to play Russian Roulette with your lives and your families go ahead, but dont do it near those who CARE.......

golfing eagles 08-27-2021 06:08 AM
[QUOTE=stadry;1994936]
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1994475)
So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS isn' it ' outrages ,' really ?or, at least outages ?
If you are going to QUOTE someone, you can use the reply button, or you can cut and paste it, BUT DO NOT EDIT what you claim is a quote. Thank you.

golfing eagles 08-27-2021 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Goodbye Snow (Post 1994942)
Not going to Brownwood until covid treatment site is moved. With all the medical offices why on earth would you put people at risk in a high volume area of people that are mingling on the sidewalks and businesses? I guess this is one way to keep people from coming for the "free" entertainment! I feel sorry for the businesses and the Village residents that like to go there in our golf cars for fun. No fun now too dangerous.
Care to explain just what you THINK the danger is as opposed to everywhere else?

Because if you THINK that these same COVID positive people aren't everywhere, you are mistaken.

golfing eagles 08-27-2021 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MidWestIA (Post 1994972)
So if there is a demand for volume like that - makes you wonder about the risk of everybody walking around here without a mask doesn't it? Guess that says covid is here
Really????? Thank you, Captain Obvious:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

paulajr 08-27-2021 06:14 AM
You forgot..
 
You forgot…going in through the BACK DOOR of the theatre..which is near NOTHING.🙄


Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1994475)
So someone who was exposed or tested positive, probably unvaccinated parks in the OUTDOOR parking lot, walks OUTDOORS into the theater that is closed for everything else, gets an infusion of monoclonal antibodies alongside others that are in the same boat, then walks OUTDOORS back to their car parked OUTDOORS So you're at the shops in the square---just how does this affect you? Hardly OUTRAGEOUS.

G.R.I.T.S. 08-27-2021 06:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1994454)
It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
And you don’t think carriers of the virus attend functions at the squares? Or shop at grocery stores? I don’t think I’m comfortable getting an infusion in a pasture.

BlkBlt6 08-27-2021 06:23 AM
Monoclonal Antibody Treatment in Brownwood
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1994454)
It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
I think The Villages had the right idea but didn’t think it through. It sounds like such a logical location for the monoclonal treatment. We need the treatment in The Villages but the businesses in Brownwood will loose business. Exposed people will be outside from the parking lot to the theatre, true, but what’s to say they won’t stop for something to eat or get a cup of coffee and a donut or shop if they are feeling fine. Brownwood will be a magnet for the virus. I think we’ll probably stay away from Brownwood.

golfing eagles 08-27-2021 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by paulajr (Post 1994982)
You forgot…going in through the BACK DOOR of the theatre..which is near NOTHING.🙄
Thank you, didn't realize they were entering there, good point.

But we'll never convince those with "covidnoia" that they are safe 300 yards away from a COVID positive person. Heck, one person already posted they won't go near that entire town square!

However, the longer a significant percentage of the population remains unvaccinated, the greater the chance of a mutation making the jump to airborne transmission, in which case 300 yards might not be enough.

terenceanne 08-27-2021 06:28 AM
We will stay away from Brownwood for at least 3 months and maybe longer - I feel sorry for the business there - just another blow. Again this is not a comment on if its right or wrong - do whatever you want - we do what is right for us.

golfing eagles 08-27-2021 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkBlt6 (Post 1994988)
I think The Villages had the right idea but didn’t think it through. It sounds like such a logical location for the monoclonal treatment. We need the treatment in The Villages but the businesses in Brownwood will loose business. Exposed people will be outside from the parking lot to the theatre, true, but what’s to say they won’t stop for something to eat or get a cup of coffee and a donut or shop if they are feeling fine. Brownwood will be a magnet for the virus. I think we’ll probably stay away from Brownwood.
Maybe, but think it through:

If they are coming for an infusion, they are either COVID positive or recently exposed. In that case they are supposed to self quarantine and wear a mask when out for essentials such as the grocery store. If they stop for coffee or go shopping, they are just plain selfish and are disregarding the risk they pose to others. HOWEVER, those with that mindset will also be out and about everywhere, they might be next to you in line at the hardware store, or sitting next to you at a bar, or anxious to share a golf cart with you. And you wouldn't know it. So if anyone wants to avoid Brownwood, they might as well avoid everyplace.

golfing eagles 08-27-2021 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by terenceanne (Post 1994992)
We will stay away from Brownwood for at least 3 months and maybe longer - I feel sorry for the business there - just another blow. Again this is not a comment on if its right or wrong - do whatever you want - we do what is right for us.
Wow, and here I thought "right" and "wrong" were absolute and based on facts, not an opinion. Perhaps wording could be changed to "avoiding that which we fear"

merrymini 08-27-2021 06:55 AM
Not true
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1994695)
I understand we had HIGH hospitalization and deaths in TV - just won't see or hear about it - wouldn't help sell houses
Why would you believe something so untrue? And it doesn’t seem to be hurting sales in TV.

Andyb 08-27-2021 06:59 AM
Very sad, that you can be so selfish to want to deny life saving treatments for your fellow citizens. Disgusting.

speedo8357 08-27-2021 07:05 AM
I think the opening of the facility is a great idea. Having access to alternative therapeutics close by is a terrific!

People are not going to get sick by walking in an open air setting such as A Town Square. The fear and misconceptions about COVID remind me of the fear associated with AIDS back in the mid-80s. Do you recall the shock after people watched Rock Hudson kiss Linda Evans on Dynasty! Everyone thought she was the walking dead. So take a deep breath and understand that people have to be treated. Having treatment options nearby facilitate their access to prompt effective healthcare.

charmed59 08-27-2021 07:11 AM
The part that confuses me is according to the Florida official website, last week Sumter county had 539 new cases. This site is serving 300 cases a day. Where are these cases coming from?

VickiF 08-27-2021 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1994545)
Theaters are closed anyway.
Glad we will have multiple treatment places nearby for anyone that might need the help
I agree

coffeebean 08-27-2021 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1994863)
You need an appointment so no line ups and believe me when you have Covid to the extent you need treatment you are not in the mood for shopping or for fine dining. Have you ever been really sick?
Are asymptomatic Covid positive people candidates for the monoclonal antibody treatment? If yes, then those folks will not feel sick. Those folks will arrive at Brownwood with their families or friends who just may walk out and about in the square killing time while the patient is receiving treatment. I see an increased risk of Covid while these treatments are offered at the theater. There is no getting around that.

Tom2172 08-27-2021 07:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1994454)
It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense! :ohdear:
Because it makes sense! Treatment good!
Covid bad and beside you shouldn’t be eating too many donuts -everything in moderation

coffeebean 08-27-2021 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 1994898)
Your superiority complex is peeking through.
For sure!

coffeebean 08-27-2021 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1994913)
Well, if that nonsense "renewed your faith in the human race", perhaps I can destroy it again. Nah, I'll skip the long explanation and simply say I know ten thousand times as much medicine as the person who posted that, and I'll be going to Brownwood again tomorrow, as I was there yesterday as well
GE.....I aways value your expertise and input on this forum. With this, I do not agree. I'll be staying away from Brownwood while the theater is used for the treatments. I feel very safe here in The Villages, knowing that Villagers are mostly vaccinated. Not so with the general public who will be coming into Brownwood for their treatments. Please stay safe.

coffeebean 08-27-2021 07:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1994966)
We are fortunate to have this treatment available at all................

Other States are seeing a health care catastrophe occurring by vaccine mandates. Around 50% of workers are quitting and relocating to States that are not unvaccinated predators. Not looking good and is going to be a huge issue going forward.
Uh Oh. That does not bode well for Florida although it is wonderful for those states where those employees are leaving from. More jobs for the vaccinated in the states that mandate the vaccine. Those states will be safer for all with vaccinated forces.


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