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The nurses at the Lake County Vaccination Site last week said that after we get our 2nd vaccination we can laminate the card we received to keep in wallets for travel, since right now International travel requires proof of having received vaccine and it’s likely domestic travel could require proof in the future as well. Nothing was said about anything “turning black” if laminated. You can buy the laminating sheets in Staples and it simply sticks on whatever you’re applying it to then trim off any excess. Not a big deal.

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Originally Posted by oxfordreb52@gmail.com (Post 1903488)

and what you state for Ocala is not true. I had to show the card to them so they could match it up with their records. I did not get a call to remind me to go get it either. The second shot (Pfizer) does have some side affects on me but nothing drastic. But you are correct in that if a third shot is required next year, like the flu, the card will be required. No one knows at this time whether or not this is on and done process or an annual process. Time will tell. All this info came from doctors and nurses on sight yesterday at Paddick Mall.

Wait, So they took "your card" over your ACTUAL LEGAL ID to verify what shot you have already had? If true that's ridiculous. SCDOH asked us for DL only, nothing else for 2nd shot because they know exactly what they gave us from RECORDS they had in their hands when we arrived. When we got to the tent they asked if we had our card or needed a new one. We did have it and they scribbled the date and batch on it which is barely decipherable because the card is only for your personal records. You can be sure if you didn't have your card they would still have taken you and given you another one for your 2nd shot.

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Originally Posted by Fisherman (Post 1903339)

I was vaccinated in Lake County. I was instructed to give this to all my Drs to put in my medical records. Will also be traveling out of the country in September and have been told I must provide this CDC card. When I traveled all over Asia and Africa, I had to show the same type of vaccination record upon entering the country. Mine has been documented with the lot number of my particular batch. I can not imagine even trying to obtain this information from and state, local or federal agency at this point in time.

Interesting. I have one of those yellow shot record booklets also and was told that I would need it when entering other countries. I have been to dozens of countries and never had to show it once, not even in the good ole U.S. of A. Of course, when I was planning to travel overseas, they told me which shots I had to have before leaving, but no one ever asked me for proof.

I was told there is a NATIONAL database of who is vaccinated .. good to know if the airlines require you to be vaccinated eventually before flights.

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Originally Posted by ureout (Post 1903064)

wife and I went for our 2nd shot today and was told not to laminate the original card.. lamination turns the card black.. they advised us to take a picture of card and keep it on our phones also you can print out a copy of the picture/card and laminate that

Next year, no one will have any need for this card. Once your doctor puts it in his file for you, you won't need that little card. I have seen some that are hand written. Mine is neatly type printed. I doubt it is for any other use than your own personal use. I don't really care because I have done enough traveling to last a lifetime and have no intention of traveling again. If I have to fly domestically, I am sure this will be over with by then and this card will be a moot point.
In my opinion, this is a big "nothing burger." No one has been denied a flight because of a lack of proof for their flu shot. And after the hysteria winds down, this will be the same.

Why laminate at all?

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Originally Posted by terrild53 (Post 1903493)

The nurses at the Lake County Vaccination Site last week said that after we get our 2nd vaccination we can laminate the card we received to keep in wallets for travel, since right now International travel requires proof of having received vaccine and it’s likely domestic travel could require proof in the future as well. Nothing was said about anything “turning black” if laminated. You can buy the laminating sheets in Staples and it simply sticks on whatever you’re applying it to then trim off any excess. Not a big deal.

International travel does not currently require proof of Covid vaccination.

I know this is the wrong thread. I want to post a question. Cao find a link as to post a new strn't seem string.?

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Originally Posted by dtennent (Post 1903468)

First - with regard to the small pox vaccinations - they were discontinued in the US when there was no small pox in most of the world. Today, there are no known cases of small pox anywhere in the world. Hence, there is no need to vaccinate people against small pox.

Second - While most people will suffer only mild conditions with Covid-19, the fact is ICU units were being swamped by the folks who suffered from serious conditions. While I am very healthy, I am not willing to bet that I won't need an ICU bed.

Third - We are just learning about the longer term effects from this virus with folks who seemed to have only mild symptoms.

I have no disagreement with your stating that these vaccines were developed at "warp speed". However, given the situation, I think the collective government agencies from around the world did the appropriate thing. The usual development of vaccines ( or any drug) takes 10+ years. This is to minimize risk to larger test groups. The initial smaller group tests with years of review were skipped. Instead larger groups were tested much sooner meaning that the individuals in those trials were at greater risk than what would normally happen. The results from those trials showed that some vaccines were not effective (and the trial stopped - Merck vaccine) or that the vaccines were effective and were scaled up.

While I respect your decision not to get vaccinated, please don't use scare tactics to persuade others to follow your decision.

Excellent Post! :clap2:

While I have not been lucky enough to snag an appointment to receive my 1st Covid Vaccination as yet (on a wait list), I did update my vaccinations for Flu, Pneumonia, Tetanus and received my 1st Shingles vaccination. (2nd one next month). My pharmacist at Winn Dixie gave me a card that has a record of what I was vaccinated for and the dates.
It's good to have a record of what you've received and when.
Gave my Dr. the information.
When I was a child, I was vaccinated against smallpox. If you did not get that, you were not allowed to attend school until you did.
I am grateful there are vaccines to help protect people against deadly diseases.
Meanwhile, I'll wait and look forward to getting the Covid vaccinations and continue to be proactive by wearing a mask, etc., until we are able to get this pandemic under control.
Many travel destinations require a negative covid test with that test info submitted prior to travel to that destination. Plus testing upon arrival and quarantine for 4 days until negative test confirmed and testing again prior to departure, mandatory mask wearing in public places.
Minimal deaths and infection rates due to these restrictions.
Some airlines now require negative test prior to boarding as well.
I lost one family member to this virus and pray I won't lose another.
Wearing a mask in public places is such a simple thing to do.

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Originally Posted by Lynnesail (Post 1903309)

The lot number is on the card. Should there be any issues in the future, you can be notified.

Lot number is not on my card. Just says "Pfizer", the date given, and "EMS" and "LAKE DOH" for healthcare professional (no name even!)

k.

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Originally Posted by ureout (Post 1903064)

We hope to get our first shot tomorrow in Inverness, so no vaccine card yet. Do not know if all the cards are of identical paper, but there are some types of paper that definitely will turn black if they are laminated in a thermal machine...I, unfortunately have done it. :ohdear:

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Originally Posted by Dgizzi (Post 1903270)

Haven’t got my shot yet! What is this card about? You actually get a “card” saying you got the shot? Like a note from your Mom!

Google images for "Covid vaccine card". You will see what information is included on the card. I have taken a photo of my card with both of my shots information entered on the card.

Have you ever traveled abroad and required prove of vaccination? That is what this card is for.

Thermal paper turns black when laminated

Unless the information was on thermal paper I doubt that it would turn black. I had the unfortunate experience of attempting to preserve my future granddaughter's image on thermal paper many years ago and totally obliterated the precious image forever.

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Originally Posted by Fisherman (Post 1903355)

Your sarcasm really adds no value to this discussion. My Dr immediately scanned it in to my record. If there are adverse reactions down the road, he can report it to the CDC with the lot number. It is not a question of what you tell your Dr and if he or she chooses to believe you. If your Dr did not want to document your vaccination record, had you had one, in to your medical records, maybe you should be looking for a new Dr.

I can surely tell who the anti-vaxxers are with those type of comments. Sad really.

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Originally Posted by stebooo (Post 1903519)

Why laminate at all?

Many many years ago when I was young just entering the adult world of grown-ups, I was "inducted" into the Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles. I was given a card which I kept in my wallet for many, many years. Just recently, I looked at that card as it was buried in the dregs of my wallet, it was nearly paper pulp and not readable any more. I reluctantly threw that card away. Wish I had it laminated many many years ago.

Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles - Wikipedia

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1903561)

Lot number is not on my card. Just says "Pfizer", the date given, and "EMS" and "LAKE DOH" for healthcare professional (no name even!)

k.

My card does include both Moderna shot's LOT #s.

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Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 1903397)

“Vaccines can cause anaphylaxis and other dangerous life-threatening side effects.” - NIH (National Institute of Health)

Example: “The United States stopped giving mandatory smallpox vaccinations 30 years ago. Some people die from it; and others have serious reactions, some permanent. Scientists say it's the most dangerous vaccine known to man.” - CBS News, 60 Minutes

These new COVID vaccines containing genetic instructions were rushed into use with extremely short trial periods. According to the IFPMA, the development of novel vaccines is a long endeavor. “It takes usually between 10 to 15 years to develop a novel vaccine, as well as establishing its quality, safety and efficacy.” states the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers & Associations.

The NIH, CDC, Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), and the Department of Defense (DoD) combined to find the vaccine and dubbed the project OWS which stands for “Operation Warp Speed”. - Source/NIH’s National Institute of Infectious Diseases.

So bear in mind when you are being told that this vaccine is safe that this is the same government whose EPA said the air quality at the 9/11 site was safe for the cleanup workers, the DoD who had no qualms conducting LSD experiments on unsuspecting soldiers and said there was no cancer link to Agent Orange, and for-profit drug companies who market drugs in third world countries even though the same drugs have been banned in the U.S. and Europe due to harmful side effects. From 08/30/2017 to 02/03/2021 327 drugs previously approved by the FDA as safe & effective were recalled. This information was obtained from the FDA’s official website.

My final concern is that the COVID vaccines utilize genetic engineering. Messenger RNA vaccines (mRNA) vaccines have strands of genetic material called mRNA - source/CDC

I am NOT an “anti-vaxxer” nor a conspiracy theorist. I have had the DPT, pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine, HBV, and the zoster vaccine. I am susceptible and was routinely exposed to these diseases at my workplace. These vaccines have a proven record and were not rushed into production.

For those who have NOT already had a positive COVID test, I would carefully weigh the pros & cons of a new, relatively untested vaccine developed at “warp speed” (their words not mine) that uses genetic engineering against a virus that is just a nuisance for most people. Before you jump on me for stating it is “just a nuisance for most people” here is another direct quote from the WHO; “Most people infected with the COVID-19 virus will experience mild to moderate respiratory illness and recover without requiring special treatment.” COVID is not on a plane with Ebola, the Plague, Cholera, Malaria, or Yellow Fever. Not even close!

- David Dallas EMT-Paramedic, RN, ASN, Retired

Glad you retired. Stop trying to make it sound like this is some hastily developed solution.

From the CDC:
“mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies....”

“Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades.” “mRNA vaccines have been studied before for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV) “. “Beyond vaccines, cancer research has used mRNA to trigger the immune system to target specific cancer cells.”

Link to the full article: Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

What about when vaccine proof is required to fly? Already required by some countries going overseas. Will be more and more as travel resumes.

Some people think it's the flu but the truth is, there are many now who are Long Termers after not really recovering fully from covid-19. Lung and heart damage that is permanent is being studied all over the country. People in the Villages are reporting not feeling fully over the virus even months later. It doesn't always just present a mild case or does one heal fully. Take that risk and don't get the vaccine. But don't ignore the vaccine from the standpoint that you could be a spreader for the next many months or beyond to innocent people.

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Originally Posted by ellenwelsh (Post 1903347)

The card would not turn black. The little stickers they had put on the card turn black from the heat of the lamination. Take a picture of it with your phone, put the card in the little plastic case they gave you and put it with your passport, (just like we used to do with the old yellow WHO cards.

Wait. You got a plastic case? We didn’t.