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Eebnhab 04-16-2024 04:33 AM

You will also want to contact community standards as they will contact the homeowner. They would consider this a health and safety risk and can help with advice on who to contact.

d1nod1no 04-16-2024 05:26 AM

Coyotes
 
Why is it so difficult to get through to people? DO NOT FEED THE WILDLIFE! Any of them! That poor coyote and baby are now attracted to humans, depending on human feeding! This is one reason our little dogs and cats fall prey.

happehart 04-16-2024 06:18 AM

Foxes not coyotes
 
I saw those animals & I believe that they are foxes not coyotes. Coyotes are much larger, much the size of a large German Shepherd.

The feeding of wild animals is not only wrong, it is illegal

Marmaduke 04-16-2024 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by psoccermom (Post 2321759)
I disagree that coyotes don't bother people. I had one chase me in Ocala when I was out for a morning walk. I did nothing to provoke it.

I agree that coyotes can be menacing and have heard this from many friends in Ocala, where there are numerous ranches neat large housing communities.

airstreamingypsy 04-16-2024 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by happehart (Post 2321979)
I saw those animals & I believe that they are foxes not coyotes. Coyotes are much larger, much the size of a large German Shepherd.

The feeding of wild animals is not only wrong, it is illegal

Coyotes weigh under 50 pounds (15 to 46) so much smaller than a large german Shepherd. A large Shepherd is over 100 pounds.

Robojo 04-16-2024 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2321650)
I didn't state that. But actually up north where I'm from (the semi-rural suburbs of New Haven County, Connecticut) if you see a coyote, it's because he's about to try and eat one of the chickens in your back yard, or is running away from a bear. The usual response to the chicken-poaching issue would be either give your really big, protective, scary-looking farm-dog a treat for protecting his farm and killing the coyote, or shoot it yourself with your shotgun. The response to the bear issue would be to bang some metal garbage can lids really loudly to scare the bear off and let the coyote continue running to someone else's neighborhood. I'm guessing neither option would go over very well around here in the Historic Section of The Villages.

Animal Shelter has no interest in wild coyotes unless someone reports that one of them tried to attack a stray dog.

I just checked the Florida Fish and Wildlife website. They refer people to commercial nuisance animal removal services, which you have to pay for.

So I guess the only thing I can do (which I was hoping to avoid) is contact the Lake County Sheriff's office and file a complaint against someone I don't know and can't identify, and give them the address of the house where the coyote den and the multiple pet bowls filled with canned food is located. Feeding coyotes is illegal in Florida.

I used to scare the coyotes away with loud metal banging. Also, music and lights kept them away.

Marmaduke 04-16-2024 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2321823)
What ever happened to common sense. There sure seems to be a dearth of it these days.

Coyotes are here to stay, much smarter than us, and perfectly willing to go on the dole. Whoever is doing this needs to understand that it is not a good deed. She is causing the creatures to lose their fear of humans which obviously is not good for either the coyotes or the humans.

Feral cat feeding is also out of control. I had a neighbor once whose friend had made arrangements with her to feed the feral cats while he was on vacation. Aaaaaaugh!!! And, you guessed it. He was not feeding those cats anywhere near his own house. He was trespassing and then asking her to do the same. ( I almost chewed the inside of my mouth raw to keep from telling her I thought her friend was a law-breaking whackadoodle and she should not enable him.)

There was also someone around who was building little “cathouses” and sneaked one onto a school playground where maintenance had to tear it down. Teachers on playground duty do not need feral cats to deal with.

Why these people think they are bathed in a special light is beyond me. They are usually trespassing or being bad neighbors but are so convinced of their own kindness. I like animals just fine, but this zealous behavior looks to me like something is a bubble off plumb.

Good luck with your quest, OBB.

Boomer

I could have easily written your exact sentiments! I've known several people who think they are very special feral cat feeders. Several University professors who created a mess on campus.
(Yeah, they're the ones influencing our youth, sadly).

Upon moving into a wonderful new neighborhood, we met a couple that seemed nice, so we eventually went out to dinner together at a very nice restaurant. The food was delicious.

Ready?

They barely touched their food.

Asked why, they informed us that they were saving it for the feral cats that the feed over near the hospital, which was nowhere near where we lived.

Telling them all about friends who are Game Wardens and Park Rangers with various stories of the perils of feeding wild animals fell on deaf ears.

There will always be the self- righteous wild animal feeders, obliviously doing the most harm, and being so PROUD of themselves. Can't reason with them, sadly.

Shipping up to Boston 04-16-2024 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmaduke (Post 2321999)
I could have easily written your exact sentiments! I've known several people who think they are very special feral cat feeders. Several University professors who created a mess on campus.
(Yeah, they're the ones influencing our youth, sadly).

Upon moving into a wonderful new neighborhood, we met a couple that seemed nice, so we eventually went out to dinner together at a very nice restaurant. The food was delicious.

Ready?

They barely touched their food.

Asked why, they informed us that they were saving it for the feral cats that the feed over near the hospital, which was nowhere near where we lived.

Telling them all about friends who are Game Wardens and Park Rangers with various stories of the perils of feeding wild animals fell on deaf ears.

There will always be the self- righteous wild animal feeders, obliviously doing the most harm, and being so PROUD of themselves. Can't reason with them, sadly.

My earlier post brought up the possibility of just that. This type of activity (much like hoarding) is difficult to mitigate. The individuals usually engaged in it don't take well to laws and ordinances. Thus why LEO or Animal Control, who have experience with this, should be notified.

Warcats 04-16-2024 08:17 AM

Coyotes
 
At first I thought it was a fox and cub, and took a photo of mama from a distance after she ran to the side of the house, near the back. Got home and took a better look at the photo and yup - it's a coyote, for sure. Too big to be a fox. Ears too long, neck too long, tail not bushy enough. So positive it's a coyote.

Very cool to see, but not very cool to have in this residential area, especially considering that someone is intentionally feeding them, which makes them grow accustomed to humans and lose their fear of us. That spells danger for humans.

What to do? Is there even an "animal control" like there is up north? It's not a domesticated animal, it's not a bird or gator. They don't need rescuing.

But someone with authority needs to find out who's feeding them and make them stop doing that. And possibly the coyotes should be captured and euthanized or relocated.

Who though? The police? Animal control? Community standards? The local rec center? A wildlife conservation organization? The Lady Lake Town Hall? Who do you even report this stuff to around here?[/QUOTE]

Any rural and most suburban area has night time coyotes. Trying to get the coyotes is a fruitless task. It is the dim hominids feeding them that is the problem. This should be an action that brings a severe fine to the maybe well meaning but uninformed resident that fed them. Let them be. Perhaps signage posting fines. Any other suggestions?

mraines 04-16-2024 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2321678)
They have grabbed dogs here in the Villages on a few occasions. Usually smaller ones like Chihuahua mixes.

People need to watch their smaller pets. There are many predators around here, not just coyotes.

mraines 04-16-2024 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Warcats (Post 2322038)
At first I thought it was a fox and cub, and took a photo of mama from a distance after she ran to the side of the house, near the back. Got home and took a better look at the photo and yup - it's a coyote, for sure. Too big to be a fox. Ears too long, neck too long, tail not bushy enough. So positive it's a coyote.

Very cool to see, but not very cool to have in this residential area, especially considering that someone is intentionally feeding them, which makes them grow accustomed to humans and lose their fear of us. That spells danger for humans.

What to do? Is there even an "animal control" like there is up north? It's not a domesticated animal, it's not a bird or gator. They don't need rescuing.

But someone with authority needs to find out who's feeding them and make them stop doing that. And possibly the coyotes should be captured and euthanized or relocated.

Who though? The police? Animal control? Community standards? The local rec center? A wildlife conservation organization? The Lady Lake Town Hall? Who do you even report this stuff to around here?

Any rural and most suburban area has night time coyotes. Trying to get the coyotes is a fruitless task. It is the dim hominids feeding them that is the problem. This should be an action that brings a severe fine to the maybe well meaning but uninformed resident that fed them. Let them be. Perhaps signage posting fines. Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]

I just hope someone does not take this into their own hands. A few months ago, my friend and I came across a dead fox in the driveway of an abandoned house. I don't believe it was a natural death and don't know what happened to the rest of them. These animals are displaced and have nowhere to go. Please don't feed or harm them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-16-2024 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by happehart (Post 2321979)
I saw those animals & I believe that they are foxes not coyotes. Coyotes are much larger, much the size of a large German Shepherd.

The feeding of wild animals is not only wrong, it is illegal

Coyotes are not the size of a German Shepherd. They're the size of a medium dog, such as a border collie. The largest coyotes only get to around 40 or 45 pounds in weight and 3 to 4 feet snout to rump.

An adult female German Shephard weighs between 50-70 pounds, and run around a foot longer than a coyote.

Compare to foxes - which usually weigh less than 15 pounds, around 2.5 feet long, not including their tails.

bilcon 04-17-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2321627)
I saw a coyote pup and its mama (or dad?) at a house that no one lives in. Someone's been putting canned food in petfood dishes in their carport. The pup crawled into a hole under the driveway, so I'm guessing that's this family's den.

At first I thought it was a fox and cub, and took a photo of mama from a distance after she ran to the side of the house, near the back. Got home and took a better look at the photo and yup - it's a coyote, for sure. Too big to be a fox. Ears too long, neck too long, tail not bushy enough. So positive it's a coyote.

Very cool to see, but not very cool to have in this residential area, especially considering that someone is intentionally feeding them, which makes them grow accustomed to humans and lose their fear of us. That spells danger for humans.

What to do? Is there even an "animal control" like there is up north? It's not a domesticated animal, it's not a bird or gator. They don't need rescuing.

But someone with authority needs to find out who's feeding them and make them stop doing that. And possibly the coyotes should be captured and euthanized or relocated.

Who though? The police? Animal control? Community standards? The local rec center? A wildlife conservation organization? The Lady Lake Town Hall? Who do you even report this stuff to around here?

A few years ago we came home around 9pm and saw a woman in our entryway holding a dog. She said she was walking her dog and an animal the size of a medium dog came out between our house and started coming toward her. She picked up her dog and tried to ring our door bell. We come home and saw the animal run off when I pulled in the driveway. We think it was a coyote. I drove the frightened woman and her dog home and gave her some advice. "Don't walk your dog in the dark." Too many critters out at night.:22yikes:

pabotticelli 04-19-2024 07:37 PM

I agree, something needs to be done to stop this!

Taltarzac725 04-19-2024 11:45 PM

We used to carry an empty soda can at night. It was not completely empty but had small rocks in it and we would shake it if a coyote approached us at night. That would work on them. I have come in contact with them several times during the daylight hours and they would be running away trying to get back to their safety zone. They did not try to grab the dog during the daylight hours but have been known to take Villages pooches nearer to dusk and dawn.



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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 2322419)
A few years ago we came home around 9pm and saw a woman in our entryway holding a dog. She said she was walking her dog and an animal the size of a medium dog came out between our house and started coming toward her. She picked up her dog and tried to ring our door bell. We come home and saw the animal run off when I pulled in the driveway. We think it was a coyote. I drove the frightened woman and her dog home and gave her some advice. "Don't walk your dog in the dark." Too many critters out at night.:22yikes:



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