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bsouthworth47@yahoo.com 07-02-2023 09:34 AM

Gates
 
You knew what the gates situation was when you bought here so if it bothered you that much why did you move here? I lived in On Top Of The World in Ocala before moving here. They had 3 gates where everyone who was not a resident had to stop and say who they were seeing and the address. Guess what there was a murder in OTOW. No matter where you are you aren't 100% safe.

graciegirl 07-02-2023 09:57 AM

I so agree that this is a very safe place to live. Everyone I know who lives here with a very few exceptions have the easy to install surveillance camera's on their home for one thing, and I also do think that the constant driving around of The Villages Watch is a very good deterrent as well. All gates have cameras as well.

I also will mention as I have done so many times before, that a lot of these kinds of posts that "stir the pot" are full of half truths or no truth at all, and they are done by troublemakers who do not live here and may be envious of us Villagers.

Heytubes 07-02-2023 10:31 AM

Lol. I enjoy reading about the dumb criminals in TV. Usually a dui in a golf cart, children of elderly Villagers shoplifting or drugs, or a senile person arguing with a neighbor. If you want to have an early morning laugh just subscribe to the Villagenews.com.

spinner1001 07-02-2023 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2230981)
It is a shame that The Villages" cover up" all the crime and accidents going on.
So many people have no clue about what happens here.


This "gated community" is a joke. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk right in anytime they want.

What would it take (and cost) to make it a real gated community, and would it help ?

6 years in, not the wonderful place it is claimed to be.

OP complains about multiple things in TV — especially between 700am and 900am.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...rchid=22698172

Bogie Shooter 07-02-2023 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2231499)
I so agree that this is a very safe place to live. Everyone I know who lives here with a very few exceptions have the easy to install surveillance camera's on their home for one thing, and I also do think that the constant driving around of The Villages Watch is a very good deterrent as well. All gates have cameras as well.

I also will mention as I have done so many times before, that a lot of these kinds of posts that "stir the pot" are full of half truths or no truth at all, and they are done by troublemakers who do not live here and may be envious of us Villagers.

Hi Gracie.🙂

Bill1701 07-02-2023 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2230981)
It is a shame that The Villages" cover up" all the crime and accidents going on.
So many people have no clue about what happens here.


This "gated community" is a joke. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk right in anytime they want.

What would it take (and cost) to make it a real gated community, and would it help ?

6 years in, not the wonderful place it is claimed to be.

The Villages never claimed to be a gated community. The gates are for traffic control only. The roads are all public so you can't restrict who drives on them.

retiredguy123 07-02-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill1701 (Post 2231524)
The Villages never claimed to be a gated community. The gates are for traffic control only. The roads are all public so you can't restrict who drives on them.

This is an excerpt from "thevillages.com" website:

"The Villages offers many safety and security services including gated neighborhood entries ..."

It doesn't say anything about the gates being used for traffic control. Also, they still claim that The Villages has three movie theaters, which hasn't been true for years.

ILLINOIS RAY 07-02-2023 11:16 AM

If you don’t like it
 
Feel free to leave

Worldseries27 07-02-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by djean1981 (Post 2231090)
bye bye. Everyone knows that the gates are for traffic control.. Lol

not exactly. All plates are filmed as they enter and many intersections have cameras to locate the vehicles in question .
Bad guys know this too.

LianneMigiano 07-02-2023 11:39 AM

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:
 
:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Get real (Post 2231002)
So if the Villages "cover up" all this crime, how do you know about it?

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Laker14 07-02-2023 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2231529)
This is an excerpt from "thevillages.com" website:

"The Villages offers many safety and security services including gated neighborhood entries ..."

It doesn't say anything about the gates being used for traffic control. Also, they still claim that The Villages has three movie theaters, which hasn't been true for years.

I have to admit, that is misleading at best. It would certainly lead most people to believe the gates exist for security reasons.
I have a buddy who bought here almost 20 years ago and didn't know until I told him that the streets and roads inside TV are not privately owned. He didn't believe me when I told him.
The fact is the developers have, in more than one way, been misleading at times.

Some people find the separation between what they may have been encouraged to conclude, and the reality, to be off-putting enough to not be happy here. I think encouraging unhappy people to find happiness elsewhere is an appropriate suggestion.

juddfl 07-02-2023 12:06 PM

It is not a private gated community. When I moved here in 2001, I was told that the gates are here to slow traffic only. Anyone can enter these gates as the roads are not owned by The Villages. These are county roads and you can not be denied the right to drive on county roads.

Fastskiguy 07-02-2023 01:02 PM

Gated community or not I'm pretty sure TV is the most heavily armed area in the world. A criminal would have to be nuts to set up shop here.

Joe

Taltarzac725 07-02-2023 01:27 PM

I had a friend at a local dog park who lived or lives in one of the gated senior communities just north of the Villages.

She had been up in arms over a man driving in there after saying he was visiting so-and-so and getting in and then parking in one neighborhood and stealing anything he could get his hands on in houses which looked unoccupied in adjoining neighborhoods. He might have been scouting them out as well.

The community leaders were meeting on how to deal with this. Not sure what happened. It did sound like they tightened security.

This was a single woman with a small dog if my memory is correct. I used to walk around the dog park's 5 acre back field rather often with her.


She was often doing things to improve her community.

Number 10 GI 07-02-2023 01:27 PM

Unless there is a 10' high fence topped with concertina wire with guard towers, a guard manning the gate isn't going to stop someone from just walking in somewhere on the unfenced perimeter. Is that how you want to live?

Eg_cruz 07-02-2023 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2230981)
It is a shame that The Villages" cover up" all the crime and accidents going on.
So many people have no clue about what happens here.


This "gated community" is a joke. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk right in anytime they want.

What would it take (and cost) to make it a real gated community, and would it help ?

6 years in, not the wonderful place it is claimed to be.

Seems to be more white collar crime and construction crime than anything else

cjrjck 07-02-2023 03:24 PM

Glass is half full from my perspective.

Michael 61 07-02-2023 04:08 PM

OP hasn’t posted since his original post- I wonder if this was just “click bait” to elicit all the opposing views on this issue and stir the pot?

dewilson58 07-02-2023 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2231586)
OP hasn’t posted since his original post- I wonder if this was just “click bait” to elicit all the opposing views on this issue and stir the pot?

U R Learning

:ho:

Al2014 07-02-2023 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2231015)
Makes me wonder though...the bad guys might figure out that things are easy picking at The Villages because everyone is so trusting.

That reminds me of a sign on a business some years ago- "This property is guarded by vicious dogs 3 nights a week. You pick the night."

charlie1 07-02-2023 08:14 PM

If people want the truth about crime around where they live, look at Home | SpotCrime. Put in your zipcode and it will show you everything that has been reported to the police. Make sure you click on the individual incidences to see what they really are (lots are just petty stuff, like noise or dog complaints) and the date of the incidence as it spans quite a large timeframe. You can also move the map around (and zoom) and do a re-search to maybe pinpoint more your area. This will give you actual information to base your judgement on safety. To me, it looks like a pretty safe community!

manaboutown 07-02-2023 10:33 PM

If one believes there is too much crime in TV there is always Baltimore. Baltimore mass shooting: 2 dead, 28 injured at block party

Pickbent 07-03-2023 12:53 AM

Suppression of Local Crime News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Get real (Post 2231002)
So if the Villages "cover up" all this crime, how do you know about it?

Maybe by simply watching TV news, even national! Or at least Orlando and Ocala newspapers. Suppression of news happens in our leftist MSM, doesn’t need to happen here in this more transparent, conservative, libertaria freer environment. to infer that crime critics should move is simply ignorant and wrong!

Two Bills 07-03-2023 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pickbent (Post 2231632)
Suppression of news happens in our leftist MSN

I think that should read," Cherry picking of news to sustain all agenda's, in all MSN.

FREDDYD83 07-03-2023 05:26 AM

Crime in TV
 
I have lived in the village for 35 years and for 15 of those year I never locked the door when we were only staying locally . i have lost one telephone hand piece from my car and two old saw horses just last month . This is sure high crime so if you are scared you should move to a more secure place . Fred

GizmoWhiskers 07-03-2023 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2231586)
OP hasn’t posted since his original post- I wonder if this was just “click bait” to elicit all the opposing views on this issue and stir the pot?

Yeah, the occassional algorithm ad generating topic for ToTV income.

To contribute, added bonus of T V Community Watch... daily well check calls if wanted. 3 calls and if you don't answer at the third call a well check is done. Not a bad community outreach program that many are not aware of. The gates are just fine too!

golfing eagles 07-03-2023 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2231627)
If one believes there is too much crime in TV there is always Baltimore. Baltimore mass shooting: 2 dead, 28 injured at block party

Slightly higher body count than the typical driveway party in TV.

ThirdOfFive 07-03-2023 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al2014 (Post 2231601)
That reminds me of a sign on a business some years ago- "This property is guarded by vicious dogs 3 nights a week. You pick the night."

Heh. I think I saw that on a t-shirt awhile back.

My brother has a good one on his door: "To Hell With The Dog. Beware of Owner".

Rodneysblue 07-03-2023 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2230981)
It is a shame that The Villages" cover up" all the crime and accidents going on.
So many people have no clue about what happens here.


This "gated community" is a joke. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk right in anytime they want.

What would it take (and cost) to make it a real gated community, and would it help ?

6 years in, not the wonderful place it is claimed to be.

You know where the “gate” is. Don’t let it hit you on the way out. Bless your heart.

Get real 07-03-2023 07:29 AM

Good grief, eight pages about no crime and yet people still complain.. :a20:

Vermilion Villager 07-03-2023 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2231015)
Makes me wonder though...the bad guys might figure out that things are easy picking at The Villages because everyone is so trusting.

You're making the assumption someone actually wants your stuff:shrug:

Taltarzac725 07-03-2023 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2231721)
You're making the assumption someone actually wants your stuff:shrug:

Guns, jewelry, money, etc., are easy to exchange.

The problem there though is that a lot of Villagers are armed to the teeth. And a good number are retired military and/or LEOs.

Whitley 07-03-2023 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2230981)
It is a shame that The Villages" cover up" all the crime and accidents going on.
So many people have no clue about what happens here.


This "gated community" is a joke. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk right in anytime they want.

What would it take (and cost) to make it a real gated community, and would it help ?

6 years in, not the wonderful place it is claimed to be.

I think it is a pretty great place. I lived in the first private gated community in the US (from 1888). I do not see how it could possibly work in TV. Too many people. If you can think of a better place than TV please let us know. I would check it out.

Whitley 07-03-2023 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gettingoutofdodge (Post 2231469)
I moved to The Villages from Staten Island, NYC 18 months ago. For the first time in my life, I feel safe. I don’t have or need additional digital door locks, cameras and the fear of walking around after dark as I had in SI. I love it here. Being in the “Bubble” is safer than anywhere in NYC. Staten Island use to be safer than the other boroughs. Not so anymore. The criminals drive around at night, case the neighborhood, check your car to see if it was left unlocked and if it was, they took whatever they could. Crime is high and in Brooklyn it is much worse. It’s not uncommon to see a car on blocks because they stole your tires and rims. Is it perfect here, it is for me.

Staten Island was like Fordham, Arthur Avenue. If someone broke the law they would pray the cops got to them before they were found by others.

golfing eagles 07-03-2023 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2231778)
Staten Island was like Fordham, Arthur Avenue. If someone broke the law they would pray the cops got to them before they were found by others.

True dat
The 124th precinct which included Todt Hill was among the safest in the US, and not because of NYPD

Whitley 07-03-2023 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2231672)
first off this is NOT a gated community in any way. to have golf carts you have to have gates. second you are correct with all the 'conditioning' I find it hilarious that the alleged GOP capital of the world is run exactly like China

The good news is tom dick or jane isn't walking in anytime they want. well not in our neighborhood. So take that as a good thing.... but I get where you're going with this.

Never been to China have you. So silly.

PugMom 07-03-2023 12:40 PM

the replies in this thread are more worthy than the question/comment posted. it smells like bait to me

golfing eagles 07-03-2023 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2231785)
Never been to China have you. So silly.

I’ve been to China and to call that person’s post merely silly is insulting to all the other silly posts on TOTV

Whitley 07-03-2023 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2231352)
It sounds like you are doing some in-depth homework on where to retire to (good for you) - I did the same for 7 years prior to retiring and moving here to TV in December. Good luck on your research - hopefully you will come and do a lifestyle visit here if you haven’t already, and also visit other 55+ communities throughout the country to help you contrast/compare, so you are ready to make an informed and well-thought out decision of where to retire to when that day comes.

61 can either be the year you were born, OR your age if you were born after July 3.

Taltarzac725 07-03-2023 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2231783)
True dat
The 124th precinct which included Todt Hill was among the safest in the US, and not because of NYPD

They can afford private security in their homes if needed.


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