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karostay 05-10-2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1762607)
Remember that the goal of the lockdown was to flatten the curve. The number of new cases is not increasing. The curve has been flattened. That was why the country was shut down. The goal has been achieved. The virus is still spreading and will continue to spread, but at a manageable rate. That’s what those who sold us on the lockdown promised us from the beginning. Not stopping the virus, just slowing the spread.

Better recheck your sources

Cases in the U.S. | CDC


TOTAL CASES
1,300,696
26,660 New Cases*

xNYer 05-10-2020 06:41 PM

Goal
 
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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1762423)
Empty hospital beds....ICUs only at 30% of capacity, hospital ships and field hospitals never or minimally used, a country awash in masks and gloves....respirators at $ 16,000 a unit sitting in warehouses....government handouts like candy for things not even related to CV19, like AMTRAK and the Kennedy Arts Center....sounds like a good overblown crisis to me....

I meant the the idea that the goal is only to flatten the curve.
I know I practiced social distancing and wore a mask when needed to lessen my chances of getting sick. Did you only observe precautions to flatten the curve as a social benefit and will now expose yourself to getting Covid-19 since the hospitals are no longer overwhelmed? Good luck with that, I don’t think in the real world people protected themselves because they wanted to flatten the curve and not because they want to be personally safe.
Since the curve is flattened, and that’s what you think matters, do what you did before, go out, shake hands ,etc. just stay away from me.

graciegirl 05-10-2020 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1762689)
“The WHO has repeatedly underlined the importance of "flattening the curve" in order to tackle the coronavirus outbreak, calling on countries around the world to impose sweeping public health measures.“

I just read back on your posts. You moved here in December of 2019 so I am guessing you are in your fifties? One of the reasons MOST of us are concerned about not catching this nasty bug is that we are all older and that makes us more vulnerable to dying from it.

I know that is a factor for the two of us. We are hoping for a vaccine or a medical tool that would make it less deadly.

Swoop 05-10-2020 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1762718)
Better recheck your sources

Cases in the U.S. | CDC


TOTAL CASES
1,300,696
26,660 New Cases*

Recheck what data? The concept of flattening the curve is to keep the level cases below the point where ICU units aren’t overloaded. They aren’t - anywhere in the country. Even NY which was the hardest hit state by far, has plenty of capacity. They have sent the hospital ship Comfort away because it’s not needed.

xNYer 05-10-2020 08:20 PM

Flattening
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1762731)
I just read back on your posts. You moved here in December of 2019 so I am guessing you are in your fifties? One of the reasons MOST of us are concerned about not catching this nasty bug is that we are all older and that makes us more vulnerable to dying from it.

I know that is a factor for the two of us. We are hoping for a vaccine or a medical tool that would make it less deadly.

I’m with you on this. His idea is that the hospitals won’t be overwhelmed. Great, now if I get Covid-19 I can be confident I will be able to get on a ventilator if I need one.
That does not exactly make me feel better and now risk getting sick.

Topspinmo 05-10-2020 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindamct (Post 1762409)
You are correct. Now they are furloughing our Doctors and nurses. Pray a real medical emergency does not happen in the midst of hospitals losing millions and closing down. Live on, smile and let's get through this reasonably. Please be logical even though it is difficult in the face of fear.��������������� ���������

So, where did the 3 trillion go? I thought it was to help medical facilities, and find vaccine?

ONTAP15 05-10-2020 08:30 PM

15,000 dead New Yorkers doesn't sound like an over blown crisis to me.

Swoop 05-10-2020 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1762731)
I just read back on your posts. You moved here in December of 2019 so I am guessing you are in your fifties? One of the reasons MOST of us are concerned about not catching this nasty bug is that we are all older and that makes us more vulnerable.

I know that is a factor for the two of us. We are hoping for a vaccine or a medical tool that would make it less deadly.

Actually I moved here in August of 2017 & I’m 60, but if was your age or had a pre existing condition I would be taking greater precautions. That said, the majority of the nation’s population isn’t over 65/70 & doesn’t have a pre existing condition. So, those in that category should be more careful, but the rest of the population should be able to resume their lives. Hopefully they come up with a vaccine, but they have yet to find a vaccine for any Covid strain. They have been working on one for SARS for 18 years without a solution.

Joanne19335 05-11-2020 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1762288)
The goal of staying home, wearing masks and social distancing was to “flatten the curve”. It was never about eradicating the virus - it was about not overrunning hospital ICU units. We have achieved that goal. Those same experts who suggested flattening the curve, told us back then that it would save lives by not over taxing our healthcare facilities. It was not about preventing people from getting the virus, just about reducing the chances of everyone getting it at once. We have done that. That was the reason for the lockdown, but people have forgotten that. Mission accomplished, now it is time to move on.

We are still a long way from “mission accomplished”. You still have to be very careful or we’re in for a spike in positive cases.

stadry 05-11-2020 05:18 AM

vaccine for aids has been sought for lots longer - 1981,,, waiting on kung flu vaccine ? call me - i have a bridge for sale,,, since some think n y times is go-to source of truth, i'll even run an ad there

DecaturFargo 05-11-2020 05:44 AM

Not sure what figures you're looking at but our numbers are still going up, not down. What's your hurry?

DONKEY10 05-11-2020 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1762288)
The goal of staying home, wearing masks and social distancing was to “flatten the curve”. It was never about eradicating the virus - it was about not overrunning hospital ICU units. We have achieved that goal. Those same experts who suggested flattening the curve, told us back then that it would save lives by not over taxing our healthcare facilities. It was not about preventing people from getting the virus, just about reducing the chances of everyone getting it at once. We have done that. That was the reason for the lockdown, but people have forgotten that. Mission accomplished, now it is time to move on.

Absolutely correct-open up the economy and gyms

MOMOH 05-11-2020 06:16 AM

Just because the curve is flattening, and you will be able to get into a hospital for care, doesn't mean that you will be able to be cured. The problem with this disease is that in many cases it can't be cured and you only get into the hospital for them to try. Until there's a vaccine or cure this isn't over.

Leadbone1 05-11-2020 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1762288)
The goal of staying home, wearing masks and social distancing was to “flatten the curve”. It was never about eradicating the virus - it was about not overrunning hospital ICU units. We have achieved that goal. Those same experts who suggested flattening the curve, told us back then that it would save lives by not over taxing our healthcare facilities. It was not about preventing people from getting the virus, just about reducing the chances of everyone getting it at once. We have done that. That was the reason for the lockdown, but people have forgotten that. Mission accomplished, now it is time to move on.

Thank you. Nice to see that someone actually gets it. Doctors have said that the same amount of people are going to get this virus. All we did was spread it out. You can’t stay locked in forever. You can’t wear a mask forever. This virus is no different than the other flu type viruses that are out there every year. We now know that the mortality rate of this is going to be the same as the flu in the end. To me from what we know now, this whole thing was unnecessary and a total paranoid overreaction with a lot of unnecessary damage done.

Leadbone1 05-11-2020 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1762777)
We are still a long way from “mission accomplished”. You still have to be very careful or we’re in for a spike in positive cases.

Wow, there is no mission accomplished!! This is a virus the same as the other flu viruses that are out there all the time. And the more testing we do the more cases we are going to find and that’s a good thing. 95% of the people that get this virus have zero or mild symptoms. We need a certain percentage of the population to get this to achieve herd immunity. You don’t get that by locking yourself in the house. The media and those in government with a political agenda have certainly done their job to create paranoia like I have never seen. Sad


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