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calibantwo 05-11-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1762288)
The goal of staying home, wearing masks and social distancing was to “flatten the curve”. It was never about eradicating the virus - it was about not overrunning hospital ICU units. We have achieved that goal. Those same experts who suggested flattening the curve, told us back then that it would save lives by not over taxing our healthcare facilities. It was not about preventing people from getting the virus, just about reducing the chances of everyone getting it at once. We have done that. That was the reason for the lockdown, but people have forgotten that. Mission accomplished, now it is time to move on.

You are correct about the reason for the lockdowns, but not the result. None of the earliest states to reopen had met the government's requirements of a flattened curve. Look at the disastrous results in Georgia -- and they are pushing forward with lifting restrictions. President Trump does not want this excessive push to open everything at once with the resulting spike in Covid deaths. He does not want to be known as President Death! Let's have a little more patience -- please!

Lil GTO 05-11-2020 11:06 AM

Could not agree more. Just drove to TV from Houston TX and staying a month. I’m at the metro diner now enjoying a sit down meal in a place that is cleaner than the day it was built and only a few couples here so very spread out. Common down and get you some good food.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1762288)
The goal of staying home, wearing masks and social distancing was to “flatten the curve”. It was never about eradicating the virus - it was about not overrunning hospital ICU units. We have achieved that goal. Those same experts who suggested flattening the curve, told us back then that it would save lives by not over taxing our healthcare facilities. It was not about preventing people from getting the virus, just about reducing the chances of everyone getting it at once. We have done that. That was the reason for the lockdown, but people have forgotten that. Mission accomplished, now it is time to move on.


Lil GTO 05-11-2020 11:07 AM

Absolutely correct!


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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1762423)
Empty hospital beds....ICUs only at 30% of capacity, hospital ships and field hospitals never or minimally used, a country awash in masks and gloves....respirators at $ 16,000 a unit sitting in warehouses....government handouts like candy for things not even related to CV19, like AMTRAK and the Kennedy Arts Center....sounds like a good overblown crisis to me....


Lil GTO 05-11-2020 11:09 AM

Or better yet end it now. I’d rather die living than live in fear of death while cowering in shelter.

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1762441)
If you are waiting for the last person to die from Covid before it is "over", you might as well stay indoors with your mask on and wait for your own demise.


kenoc7 05-11-2020 11:11 AM

Overblown?
 
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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1762423)
Empty hospital beds....ICUs only at 30% of capacity, hospital ships and field hospitals never or minimally used, a country awash in masks and gloves....respirators at $ 16,000 a unit sitting in warehouses....government handouts like candy for things not even related to CV19, like AMTRAK and the Kennedy Arts Center....sounds like a good overblown crisis to me....

80,000 deaths probably going to at least 135,000 by August is overblown?????????

ficoguy 05-11-2020 11:13 AM

Death rate for 3 counties is 33 out of 854,944
 
Population of Sumter, Lake and Marion: 854,944
Cases to date: 698
Deaths: 33

There are normally 12 deaths A DAY from all causes in these 3 counties
Including traffic accidents, suicide, drug overdoses and natural causes

JoMar 05-11-2020 11:13 AM

The good news is those that want to get back to normal won't be making those decisions.

Swoop 05-11-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by calibantwo (Post 1763134)
You are correct about the reason for the lockdowns, but not the result. None of the earliest states to reopen had met the government's requirements of a flattened curve. Look at the disastrous results in Georgia -- and they are pushing forward with lifting restrictions. President Trump does not want this excessive push to open everything at once with the resulting spike in Covid deaths. He does not want to be known as President Death! Let's have a little more patience -- please!

Every state has met the requirement for flattening the curve. Not one state has run out of hospital ICU beds, not one state has run out of ventilators. We have met the criteria. If you look at the model for flattening the curve, the idea that this whole lockdown was based on, you’ll see that the number of cases of the virus doesn’t change - they are just spread out over a longer period of time.

coffeebean 05-11-2020 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1762878)
Sure they are working on a vaccine, but they have been working on one for the SARS strain of the Covid virus for 18 years. How long are you prepared to be shut down for?

We never hear about SARS anymore here in the US. Is it really a threat anymore? How many deaths are there annually for this virus? Maybe the SARS vaccine has been put on the back burner.

thelegges 05-11-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1763144)
80,000 deaths probably going to at least 135,000 by August is overblown?????????

Keyword here is probably. Then again flu season is around the corner, so best to stay inside. Playing golf since day one, out in the normal world one week today, tested, no issues

Wallyworld 05-11-2020 06:42 PM

Dr Birx just said the CDC cannot be trusted. They are over inflating the deaths by 25%. When will everyone just admit this is totally political, making sure Trump doesn’t get re-elected.

coffeebean 05-11-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil GTO (Post 1763135)
Could not agree more. Just drove to TV from Houston TX and staying a month. I’m at the metro diner now enjoying a sit down meal in a place that is cleaner than the day it was built and only a few couples here so very spread out. Common down and get you some good food.

Were the servers and the cooks wearing masks? They have an open kitchen so it is easy to see the food preparers.

graciegirl 05-11-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallyworld (Post 1763377)
Dr Birx just said the CDC cannot be trusted. They are over inflating the deaths by 25%. When will everyone just admit this is totally political, making sure Trump doesn’t get re-elected.

Please link us to that. I missed Dr. Birx saying the CDC cannot be trusted. Can you show us that original statement?

EdFNJ 05-11-2020 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by canyonblue (Post 1763123)
Sorry, I just can't watch the Coronavirus Negative News, aka CNN.

So please elucidate on exactly who is giving you the "real news" ? That was a rhetorical question, no need to answer. ;)

EdFNJ 05-11-2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1763397)
Please link us to that. I missed Dr. Birx saying the CDC cannot be trusted. Can you show us that original statement?

Birx reportedly said '''there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust''' - Business Insider


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