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Bill14564 06-20-2025 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2440241)
I know dozens of people that don’t know what the router is and sure didn’t know how to change the configuration. I’m going to say 99% of users don’t. Ask the homeowner what ghz network does the ecobee or nest use? Or MyQ, Meross, camp chef grills, almost all other devices in your home. Most people don’t know and don’t care. They go with what the isp installer says the router has as the default and they have to look at the bottom of the router to get the password.
I have friends (and myself) that didn’t have enough signal for outdoor cameras, or myQ or the smart irrigation controllers that I’ve had for many years. We needed to put a 5th mesh router in my buddies garage to get his outdoor cameras to work. My whole house is automated, and my outdoor grill needs wifi outside of the lanai. My buddy couldn’t get a signal for his outdoor tv or a reliable signal without pixelation or delays until I built his network.
200Mb is very slow, I get over 800Mb in my bedroom closet or outside in my birdcage.
Most people don’t know that when they connect to the internet, you are dealing with 2 different networks: WAN and a LAN. Saying you have 200Mb is snail mail for a LAN, it should be close to 1G if you do it right. The wan part of it gets measured by connecting a device to the routers port (not wifi) to determine if they are getting the speed you are paying for. So for somebody telling me they are getting 200Mb, I’m guessing it’s a wan test and if you are paying for 500Mb or say 1Gb speeds, your speeds are terrible.
Like I said, most people don’t know how to implement a network

As someone else wrote, you seem to have some specific needs that 99% of us do not.

When I write that I have 286Mbps, that is usable speed not marketing speed. Did you somehow think I grabbed a very long network cable that would reach into the garage? No! That is speed I measured using wifi while standing as far away from my router as I could get. That is being limited somewhere and it's likely on the WAN side but it's more than I need and more than I paid for so I have no complaints.

200Mbps is very slow compared to what, the bandwidth I need, the bandwidth that is available, or what the Jones' have next door? A 1Gbps fiber WAN or 800Mbps in the bedroom is great to brag about but if a user is only using 40Mbps to stream to a TV then 960Mbps of that WAN is going entirely unused. I can brag that my Maserati does 185 but that only means I am paying for and maintaining a lot more car than I will ever use.

If you care about what ghz network your ecobee or nest or MyQ or Meross or camp chef grill or irrigation controller uses then either you have specific needs that most of us don't have or you're doing it wrong. I don't know and don't care whether my devices are using the 2.4GHz or 5GhHz bands because I know my router supports both. If I choose to turn one band off or use different SSIDs or passwords then shame on me for fixing something that wasn't broken and causing a problem.

Many of us will do just fine with 200Mbps and the single modem/router provided at installation. Some of us will need more hardware to recover signal loss going through the house or out to the yard (I'm fortunate that I don't). But few of us will need (or want) five mesh nodes to have a perfectly usable in-home network.

MX rider 06-20-2025 04:11 PM

We have DirecTV satellite. Started with them in 1996. Overall we're happy with it. It costs a bit more than streaming, but we like the convenience of not having to search different places to find what we want to watch. And to get the channels we want, streaming isn't going to save us a lot.

Streaming prices have steadily increased the last few years. They all started out very low to attract subscribers.
So keep in mind, streaming is cheaper...for now. But the prices will continue to rise due to the increasing cost of programming. As they add content it increases their costs.
Many are struggling to be profitable.

If we do switch it will probably be DirecTV streaming or Youtube tv. But they lack a few channels we really like. So for now we're happy with our choice.

One good thing about streaming though, if you don't want all the channels like us you can pick and choose what works for you. That does save money.

Do your research!

tophcfa 06-20-2025 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MX rider (Post 2440288)

One good thing about streaming though, if you don't want all the channels like us you can pick and choose what works for you. That does save money.

Do your research!

The best thing about streaming is that if you split your time between two homes, most streaming services will work at both locations. With cable, you need to subscribe, and pay for, the same service at both locations. We now have Xfinity internet only at both homes. Peacock is free with Xfinity internet and we pay for Netflix, Prime, and YouTube TV. Our total cost with this setup is substantially less than what we were paying Xfinity for both internet and cable TV up north, and we could only use the service at that single location. With streaming, we pay less and now have service at both homes. The streaming learning curve was surprisingly easy using Roku devices on all our televisions and we love the cloud based DVR service that comes with YouTube TV.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-20-2025 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2440250)
I can brag that my Maserati does 185 but that only means I am paying for and maintaining a lot more car than I will ever use.

This is really the whole point. But you're pretty old now, you might lose your license and then you won't drive.

Just sayin...

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-20-2025 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2440241)
I know dozens of people that don’t know what the router is and sure didn’t know how to change the configuration. I’m going to say 99% of users don’t. . .
Like I said, most people don’t know how to implement a network

. . .

Most of us don't NEED to know how to "implement a network." Most of us are just people who want to stream videos, browse the web, use our printers, watch TV, maybe pay bills with our bank's online banking system.

It doesn't matter if we know what gHz we're running on our network, or from our router. You don't have to know that, to plug in a cable and turn on a machine and see that everything is running smoothly.

My ISP didn't tell me anything, I did my own connecting with my own router and modem that I bought at Staples. I still don't know what gHz I'm running, and I don't care. It's irrelevant, as long as the network does what the user needs it to do. If it's not, I can always figure it out. But chances are, whatever goes wrong won't be the result of a low gHz. It'd probably be a loose cable, or an old modem burning out, or a computer virus, or running too many devices at the same time. Y'know, the common things that can cause a LAN to slow down.

MikeVillages 06-21-2025 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RoadToad (Post 2440126)
WE use Silicon Dust (HD Homerun) also. As well as original and Gen4 Tablo OTA.
Have you tried the Tablos?

The Gen4 has over a hundred streaming channels as well as the OTA recording, NICE.

Also, with 4 HDMI inputs on Tv, we have a Roku, a Firestick, and a ONN. All are great, ONN is "home" capable and we can view our Wyze cams on the big screen.

I got an early preproduction HD HomeRun that supports ATSC 1.0 & ATSC 3.0 TV but does not support DRM. PBS & CBS are the only stations that I can get ATSC 3.0 because they do not require DRM like all of the other ATSC 3.0 in our area.

I also got The Zapper Box ZapperBox M1 - ATSC 3.0, 4K, HDR, and Dolby(R) AC-4 Tuner . I can get all of the stations & can DVR the stations in our area including ATSC 1.0, 3.0, & 3.0 with DRM.
The ZapperBox has little or no issues with severe weather we occasionally get. I live in the northern part on TV which shows they have an excellent turner. :pepper2:

PS
ATSC 1.0 is the current standard used by everyone. ATSC 3.0 is the new standard that will replace the current 1.0 but they keep delaying when this will happen. The major networks in Orlando are currently using both.

MikeVillages 07-20-2025 08:25 AM

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