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Goldwingnut 02-12-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2300257)
You are correct. A traffic light at the 470-Meggison intersection would be very helpful, as would a traffic light to help people in Chitty Chatty pull out and turn left onto Morse Road.

Don't hold your breath waiting for the county officials to make those decisions. They are too busy building a much needed sidewalk along Route 44.

As has been said many times both on this website and several others, the sidewalk on SR44 and the work on SR44 is part of an FDoT project and the county has absolutely no say in it.

With respect to 470/Meggison Rd, 470 is slated for expansion to 4 lanes by Lake County in the near future. The composition of traffic control devices will be determined by Lake County and the FDoT during the expansion.

As for the 470 intersection and the 468/Chitty Chatty intersection, neither at this time have sufficient traffic volume to warrant the installation of additional traffic control devices. While you may have to wait 30 seconds or more to execute a left turn, it can be executed safely, and in most cases, more quickly than if one had to wait for a traffic light to cycle.

Altavia 02-12-2024 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2300262)
I agree. I can't wait for that sidewalk along 44 to be completed so everyone can admire how nobody is walking on it. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Curious why the hold up. It's looked completed for 6-+ months but there are barriers blocking use?

VApeople 02-12-2024 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2300332)
As for the 470 intersection and the 468/Chitty Chatty intersection, neither at this time have sufficient traffic volume to warrant the installation of additional traffic control devices. While you may have to wait 30 seconds or more to execute a left turn, it can be executed safely, and in most cases, more quickly than if one had to wait for a traffic light to cycle.

In our case, we truly hate turning left onto a 4-lane road like Morse without a stop light to help us.

Like the UPS drivers, we plan our shopping trips so we do not have to turn left onto a dangerous road without having a stop light.

I have a friend who lives in the Sandalwood condos across from Chitty Chatty and he says it is a nightmare to turn left on Morse in the morning. He wished there was a stop light at that intersection.

It is comforting to know the Dept. of Transportation is behind the beautiful sidewalk along Route 44. I trust the Government because they are here to help us.

Dond1959 02-12-2024 04:28 PM

I have not seen anyone mention this, there is a new section that will be built south of Monarch Grove in between Marsh Bend and the turnpike. Personally I think that will be an excellent area as you will be closer to everything to the north like Everglades Rec, the Executive courses south of 44, and the shopping in Magnolia Plaza. Plus you will be close to everything to the south in Eastport and over to the Sawgrass area. There will be two golf cart paths one along Marsh Bend and one heading east on Bexley.

You never know the timing the Villages will open a new Village but it is probably within your timeframe. Get set up with a good sales agent here to get the lot or house you want. I think it will be a popular area when opened.

Goldwingnut 02-12-2024 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2300416)
It is comforting to know the Dept. of Transportation is behind the beautiful sidewalk along Route 44. I trust the Government because they are here to help us.

You're not the only one questioning FDoT on the sidewalk issue, I don't know a single person that sees any use or common sense in the SR44 sidewalks. There are useful sidewalks like this all over the state, and this won't be the last of these you'll see in Sumter County, there are more planned. Once again, this is the FDoT's plans, not the county.

MrChip72 02-12-2024 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2300456)
You're not the only one questioning FDoT on the sidewalk issue, I don't know a single person that sees any use or common sense in the SR44 sidewalks.

I doesn't seem unfathomable to me though to imagine at least some of that part of SR44 being heavily developed in 20-30 years where some of the sidewalks might actually get some use.

VApeople 02-13-2024 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2300511)
I doesn't seem unfathomable to me though to imagine at least some of that part of SR44 being heavily developed in 20-30 years where some of the sidewalks might actually get some use.

If I were concerned what might happen in 20-30 years, I would go out and buy a casket.

kkingston57 02-13-2024 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2300085)
Hacienda is adding around 25 brand new villas. Right close to Spanish Springs too.

Live nearby and bet those villas will be over 500K. Developer has spent a boatload of money on the infrastructure in that area. Wonder if these villas were not pre sold. They were proposed in the boom years

Kelevision 02-14-2024 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299557)
I will be visiting in 2 weeks and will likely purchase a Patio in either Dabney or Moultrie Creek. I can save about $30k in Dabney when considering bond. Maybe more when considering future costs of building materials if I wait even longer.

For those who purchased in the newer sections (Lake Denham, Dabney); does the drive north get old ? Are you worried that you will feel cut off as new development goes south on the other side of the turnpike ?

I've seen some people state they think another cart connection will be built (maybe CR470) in the future. Aside from Lake Denham and Dabney residents, who would that really benefit (so why would they bother building it) ? Is more development going to happen south of Dabney north/east of the turnpike ?

Personally, I’d love that area. I’m near sawgrass but I like to go to Orlando often so being closer to the turnpike ent/exit is great. I’d guess that area of 470 will grow over time.

Rainger99 02-14-2024 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2300332)

As for the 470 intersection and the 468/Chitty Chatty intersection, neither at this time have sufficient traffic volume to warrant the installation of additional traffic control devices. While you may have to wait 30 seconds or more to execute a left turn, it can be executed safely, and in most cases, more quickly than if one had to wait for a traffic light to cycle.

What is sufficient traffic? Is that a specific number such as 200 vehicles an hour? If so, where do we find it? Is it in state DOT regulations or county regulations? Or some place else?

If it isn’t a specific number, how is it determined?

DrMack 02-14-2024 06:44 AM

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We bought and built in Dabney, it looks long term for isolation. The only movement we see anymore is contractor trucks. Your answer, it IS to far from most things. We will look to sell in about 11 months. That’s how long you need to keep the home if you buy. Our eyes are now on a condo in Clearwater.

golfing eagles 02-14-2024 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2301009)
We bought and built in Dabney, it looks long term for isolation. The only movement we see anymore is contractor trucks. Your answer, it IS to far from most things. We will look to sell in about 11 months. That’s how long you need to keep the home if you buy. Our eyes are now on a condo in Clearwater.

Clearwater??? Enjoy the traffic (ie: parking).

Altavia 02-14-2024 07:53 AM

What was it like in Pine Hills/Pine Ridge in the beginning?

Some of that area is 8+ mi from Sumter/Brownwood.

Was Colony Plaza already there?

Normal 02-14-2024 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2301055)
What was it like in Pine Hills/Pine Ridge in the beginning?

Some of that area is 8+ mi from Sumter/Brownwood.

Was Colony Plaza already there?

I recall those days, the Tea shop was our favorite stop if you wanted to drive all the way down 301. Dabney is a different animal though. 470 isolates it and it will soon be a 4 lane. 33 is a boundary owned by another developer. Anyone wanting to drive up to Sawgrass has a bit of a cart ride. Eastport would be like someone driving from Sawgrass to Brownwood. I wouldn’t see anything in its future for at least the next 5 years.

golfing eagles 02-14-2024 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2301055)
What was it like in Pine Hills/Pine Ridge in the beginning?

Some of that area is 8+ mi from Sumter/Brownwood.

Was Colony Plaza already there?

Colony was there as early as 2007-09. Pine Ridge was built about 2015-16. When Colony was built, BV between Seabreeze and 466A was a dirt road.


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