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acstover 11-26-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pbkmaine (Post 1601161)
It depends on what you want in a newspaper. It gives me a lot of information about people and events here and I use the ads all the time. For me, it’s quite useful.

I agree. It's informative, and I enjoy reading it at breakfast. If I'm in the mood, I Sometimes do the crossword puzzle. It's worth the pennies a day I pay.

refeik 11-26-2018 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1601148)
The Sun publishes no real news at all, I signed up for a one year subscription and after a few months realized it truly wasn’t a newspaper. So I started giving it to my neighbor. It’s worthless and not anything of value is printed on the paper it’s a waste of paper

I totally agree. When my subscription expires, I am finished with the Daily Sun. Politically, it is extremely biased.

thetruth 11-26-2018 11:23 AM

Not sure why you are asking
 
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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1601141)
Which numbers are you going to believe?

From the Online News site, Oct. 2, 2018:
"A publisher's statement printed in Tuesday's edition of The Villages Daily Sun shows the newspaper's circulation has dipped."

<snip>

"The 'Statement of Ownership, Management and Circulation' appeared in 6-point type buried in the back of Tuesday's Sports section.

"It stated the newspaper's daily circulation as of Sept. 26 is 43,610. The publisher's statement from Sept. 25, 2016 indicated a daily circulation of 44,936. The publisher's statement from Oct. 1, 2014 indicated a daily circulation of 43,938."

<snip>

"Many of the Daily Sun copies that are counted as paid circulation aren't going to homes, but rather are complimentary copies made available through the sales centers and businesses such as Citizens First Bank."

From The Villages Daily Sun, Nov. 21, 2018:
"This week the Daily Sun marked its 21st consecutive year of circulation growth as verified by the Alliance for Audited Media, the industry standard for ensuring transparency among media companies and trust among advertisers.

"The Daily Sun is now the fifth largest newspaper in Florida, behind only the Tampa Bay Times, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Orlando Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post.

"The growth news comes while online sites struggle to win over subscribers and advertisers. The Daily Sun maintains a 92 percent daily market penetration, and 97 percent of residents read the newspaper at least once each week."


Quoted circulation figures are more important to advertisers than to readers. The numbers are audited by independent firms. Audit Bureau of Circulation is one of them. More readers, of the type you are trying to sell is important when a company decides where to spend their advertising dollars.

Readers, is another fuzzy number How many people read that magazine in a doctor's waiting room. hair cutting place etc.

As to on line magazines. Due to cost of printing, mailing etc and the fact that people have shown a willingness to read publications they are expanding rapidly. I think I heard that Condi Nast has decided to no longer PRINT GLAMOUR MAGAZINE and to supply it on line only. Interesting to me as about a year ago the PRINTED the biggest issue in their history.

FOR ME-I deal with what is not what should be.

Bucco 11-26-2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by refeik (Post 1602153)
I totally agree. When my subscription expires, I am finished with the Daily Sun. Politically, it is extremely biased.

It is, and frankly does not cover news that "it" does not like...

HOWEVER, not a reason to be "finished" with the Daily Sun...It is what it is, and a great local paper which I enjoy reading daily. I do not expect national news and thus get it elsewhere but I do enjoy the local and have for years.

OhioBuckeye 11-26-2018 12:28 PM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1601148)
The Sun publishes no real news at all, I signed up for a one year subscription and after a few months realized it truly wasn’t a newspaper. So I started giving it to my neighbor. It’s worthless and not anything of value is printed on the paper it’s a waste of paper

You're exactly right! Basicly I dropped the paper too because I think it's about all advertisements for TV. You could take the news they do have in it & they could put it all on 3 or 4 pages. The local news they put in it is mostly old news, 3 to 6 months old. I just got tired of reading old news & advertisements for something I don't use or never will use. But you can't beat the price! But when I do buy a paper, I buy 2 different days that I like, 1 of them is Fridays.

THUNDERCHIEF 11-26-2018 01:20 PM

What difference does it make which number is right?

yesi3putt2 11-26-2018 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pbkmaine (Post 1601161)
It depends on what you want in a newspaper. It gives me a lot of information about people and events here and I use the ads all the time. For me, it’s quite useful.

I like it 222...not a real news freak but enjoy the local update stuff..I cut the ads 222..and the paper pays for it's self buy what I save using the ads..win...win..

manaboutown 11-26-2018 02:31 PM

I love the Daily Sun for it’s local news, upbeat style and solid unbiased reporting of the facts unlike the propaganda organs of mainstream media.

NotGolfer 11-26-2018 02:43 PM

I was thinking about the comments on this thread and have some thoughts. How many of the folks here once lived in a metro-area city? IF you're equating The Daily Sun to what you once read...then there's no comparision. To that I'll agree! BUT if you lived in a small town---it's similar to the papers from there. Homey, full of town-"news" and happenings with "some" of the other stuff sprinkled in. Years ago the local "paper" we got was a weekly and the "news" was about all the local folks and their social comings and goings. Imagine reading about stopping in for a coffee and chat as if it were a land-mark happening!! As for the radio---we listen 1st thing in the morning to catch what Larry and Jerry have to say. Generally we turn it off around 9 or 10 as we get into our day. It's really not much different than the stations from the smaller towns we lived in up north. Though up there you'd have "party-line" where people called in things "for sale" etc. They'd even share recipes. It's a free country (so far)---we can subscribe to whatever publication we want (either hard-print or internet) AND we can also listen to whatever we care to.

mollyb 11-26-2018 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1601148)
The Sun publishes no real news at all, I signed up for a one year subscription and after a few months realized it truly wasn’t a newspaper. So I started giving it to my neighbor. It’s worthless and not anything of value is printed on the paper it’s a waste of paper

House organ....

Investment Painting Contractors 11-26-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mollyb (Post 1602254)
House organ....

What does this mean???? I know I'm getting old but I'm TOTALY CONFUSED.

Ladygolfer93 11-26-2018 05:26 PM

I guess I am a slow learner, lol, I signed up and paid for an entire year (price seemed reasonable enough), and slowly started throwing it away without even taking out of plastic sleeve (a VERY thoughtful way to deliver). Didn't want a diet of "bad" news, but, realized quickly it is not a "news" paper at all, but an very slick, and "happy" advertisement for he development. Slow learner because 4 or 5 years later I tired it AGAIN ! No complaints, I am the one who chose to waste the money, and THEN, knowing what I way buying, did it again. What is that they say about the definition insanity ? That doing the same thing over and over and expecting...….things to change. Thankfully a neighbor gave me a tip about an online news site which, together with the Orlando paper, and Talk of the Villages keeps me (and others l assume) from being completely ignorant about the important news. Sinkholes for example ?

greg.turay 11-26-2018 09:06 PM

It’s a fine paper
 
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Originally Posted by acstover (Post 1602121)
I agree. It's informative, and I enjoy reading it at breakfast. If I'm in the mood, I Sometimes do the crossword puzzle. It's worth the pennies a day I pay.

Plenty of national news short stories and lots of happy information. I am in a place with internet to get all the news I want and the daily sun in a refreshing publication with adequate news and plenty of local ads. I heard the developer just took over the publishing. Let’s hope the Sun doesn’t go down hill. I like it the way it is.

KEP721 11-26-2018 09:12 PM

I enjoy the paper very much. I spend most of my time in New York. The news in NY is a constant barrage of tragic events and cynical editorials. The newspapers in New York make me feel as if they are shouting at me . I’m older now and appreciate quiet . Be thankful for a community minded paper that provides uplifting and heart warming stories. It’s soothing to know they’re out there . As stated, I enjoy reading the paper.... when I am fortunate enough to be in The Villages, Imake my morning coffee, sit back, put my feet up and see what’s happening in the area of my beloved get away. It’s this lady’s opinion that the “Daily Sun” Is doing exactly what it is meant to do.

circletrack 11-26-2018 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1602198)
You're exactly right! Basicly I dropped the paper too because I think it's about all advertisements for TV. You could take the news they do have in it & they could put it all on 3 or 4 pages. The local news they put in it is mostly old news, 3 to 6 months old. I just got tired of reading old news & advertisements for something I don't use or never will use. But you can't beat the price! But when I do buy a paper, I buy 2 different days that I like, 1 of them is Fridays.

3 to six months old? Really? Are we reading the same Sun local section? Mine has event previews and reviews for things happening each week. Maybe sometimes the weekend events run a few days later. 3 months is a huge exaggeration.

Papillons 11-26-2018 11:36 PM

Look at most newspapers these days -- they're shells of what they used to be after years of downsizing -- and you'll gain some appreciation for the Daily Sun. It's not a Pulitzer Prize winner, but it's never claimed to be. It's never been a secret that it exists to lure homebuyers to The Villages, so no, you won't find much "bad" news. But it is a sizable, vibrant paper with top-notch design and photography. The news sections are bigger than what you find in major metro papers. The sports section apparently has decent deadlines and gets in scores from almost every pro and college game in the Eastern and Central time zones, which is no longer the case with most papers on the East Coast (and important to me as a sports fan). It has travel, auto and home/garden sections, which have been eliminated by most other papers in cost-cutting moves. If you want to know where and when to go to a club meeting or read about someone who is doing great work in the community, it's in the Daily Sun. If you want breathless reporting on Stormy Daniels or Robert Mueller ... that's what CNN is for.

As for reported circulation decline, it's my understanding that the online publication's recent coverage is being guided largely by an ex-Daily Sun executive who moved to the "competition" a few months ago and has no love for his former employer. So maybe the report is accurate, or maybe we need to consider the source.

Bogie Shooter 11-27-2018 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1602198)
You're exactly right! Basicly I dropped the paper too because I think it's about all advertisements for TV. You could take the news they do have in it & they could put it all on 3 or 4 pages. The local news they put in it is mostly old news, 3 to 6 months old. I just got tired of reading old news & advertisements for something I don't use or never will use. But you can't beat the price! But when I do buy a paper, I buy 2 different days that I like, 1 of them is Fridays.

Maybe you will find a local paper to your liking back in Ohio.


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