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irishwonone 03-26-2021 09:19 AM

Absolutely correct. This is Florida where where construction and business never stop growing. With so much disposable income in our area business is clamoring to get at it. Not just in the bubble but outside of it too.

Velvet 03-26-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 1921122)
All posters:
Keep it up! Eventually, we'll be able to enjoy all the perks high fees and taxes bring to states in other areas of the country!

Why do you suppose we LEFT those areas in the first place?

PennBF 03-26-2021 11:45 AM

Where
 
Let's hope the POA chases this outrages condition?:ohdear:

Neils 03-26-2021 12:37 PM

Since there is a gov moratorium on rental evictions, can homeowners not pay their tax bills?

rogerk 03-26-2021 03:46 PM

Keep in mind folks, the Road Impact Tax can ONLY be used for roads. I can't be used to reduce ad-valorem property taxes!

Aloha1 03-26-2021 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 1921133)
What the voters of Sumter County wanted was to shift more of the developer’s road costs back to the developer by increasing road impact fees. The 50 million dollars we had to cover in our tax increase of 25% is why the residents revolted and ousted every single incumbent. The rest of the incumbents will be ousted when they come up for reelection including our local representative to the state legislature. We, the residents of Sumter County, refuse to pay for the costs of development. These costs, like in all fast growing counties in Florida, need to be paid for by the developers not the residents. That also means that as developers build non age restricted buildings they need to pay school, fire and other impact fees in addition to road impact fees. We don’t want higher taxes that is why we rose up and changed things. Welcome to the power of the American people when they band together and determine their own future.

Dream on. You have awakened the rest of the Sumter electorate and they are not on your side.

Happydaz 03-26-2021 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1921469)
Dream on. You have awakened the rest of the Sumter electorate and they are not on your side.

When the two incumbent commissioners and the state representative are voted out in the next election will you come back and add to your comments? 2 out of 3 Sumter County voters ousted the three incumbent commissioners. There still is 1/3 of the electorate that voted for them, but their small number wasn’t enough to retain them in office. It was a landslide election.

shut the front door 03-26-2021 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1921472)
That's a story about Biden.

And the developer with his dirty deeds is looking exactly like that.
It's so refreshing to see TOTV posters becoming more aware and not blindly following the developer worshippers.

Stu from NYC 03-26-2021 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1921469)
Dream on. You have awakened the rest of the Sumter electorate and they are not on your side.

Two more commissioners will be looking for a new job in just under two years.

Thinking the developer has overplayed his hand unless they can pull a rabbit from under their hat

j_vermilya 03-27-2021 08:49 AM

I am very grateful to the 3 new commissioners....next to come, I believe, will be the roll back of the 25% property tax.

jjombrello 03-27-2021 10:58 AM

My ad valorem taxes increased in 2019 and were about the same for 2020. If what this writer claims to be true, why did the three "savior RINO's" not give the details of their plan to the public. When asked to comment none replied, or gave little information when they did. I would like to see them logically justify to the Sumter County public just how this impact fee increase and the supposed tax rollback will be put into effect and how it will work to the benefit of all. As a side note on taxes, from 1999 through 2006, my ad valorem taxes averaged $1,927. From 2007 through 2018, they averaged $1, 601 due to the reductions made in the millage rate. In 2019 I paid $1,751 and in 2020 paid $1753. So, currently I am paying ad valorm taxes that are less than what I paid from 1999-2006 and for eleven years paid much less, all thanks to the former board of commissioners. I could go on and question the original writer on his unsubstantiated claims against former commissioners but that would just prolong a meaningless topic. My hope is that Rep. Hage's bill passes and that he continues his good work for the Sumter County residents.

Pairadocs 03-27-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1920865)
???? My property taxes actually increased 25% in 2019. I checked some other properties and their property taxes actually increased as well. The increase did in fact happen.

Ours sure did ! ? (in Sumter)

Pairadocs 03-27-2021 11:29 AM

Am I naive ?
 
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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 1921485)
And the developer with his dirty deeds is looking exactly like that.
It's so refreshing to see TOTV posters becoming more aware and not blindly following the developer worshippers.

Wonder if I am just naive ? Been around since this site began but not as active as I have been since the boredom of "virus" started. However, has anyone else noticed that there are a few people, not even close to all, who seem to (???) just seem to be on to defend any and everything the developers do ? In all these years it's only been since I've checked out TOTV more often that I have even noticed.... finally realized it is only a very few and it becomes obvious. Just an observation.... interesting. Have no idea what that means, could be folks don't really think things through to the end, or maybe just judicially guarding their property values, don't want any kind of negatives out ? Don't know, just noticed a very obvious trend.

Stu from NYC 03-27-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1921778)
Wonder if I am just naive ? Been around since this site began but not as active as I have been since the boredom of "virus" started. However, has anyone else noticed that there are a few people, not even close to all, who seem to (???) just seem to be on to defend any and everything the developers do ? In all these years it's only been since I've checked out TOTV more often that I have even noticed.... finally realized it is only a very few and it becomes obvious. Just an observation.... interesting. Have no idea what that means, could be folks don't really think things through to the end, or maybe just judicially guarding their property values, don't want any kind of negatives out ? Don't know, just noticed a very obvious trend.

We all have different opinions and that is fine but do agree there are some here that no matter what happens will always praise the developer.

I would rather keep an open mind.

Ben Franklin 03-27-2021 12:18 PM

Question, when those of us who already own here have to pay for those who are coming and who are causing the impact is that considered socialism, or just a rejection of personal responsibility by the newbies?
I stopped delivery of the Villages Daily Sun, because it is such a one sided propaganda paper, filled with advertisements.

Stu from NYC 03-27-2021 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1921797)
Question, when those of us who already own here have to pay for those who are coming and who are causing the impact is that considered socialism, or just a rejection of personal responsibility by the newbies?
I stopped delivery of the Villages Daily Sun, because it is such a one sided propaganda paper, filled with advertisements.

The developer thought of a way to increase his profits by having others paying for the roads so he had his puppets do his bidding. Very smart family but it appears that this time they stepped over the line.

eyc234 03-27-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1921775)
Ours sure did ! ? (in Sumter)

Checked a ton in and around our area and it was less than 5% of the 100 or so we checked had a real increase of 25%(prior year 2019 amount check cut to current year 2020 check cut). Would luv to see the actual number of year over year taxes that went up 25%. Not in total agreement with either side but there should be a happy medium. Development is going to happen, no matter where you are if there is a demand. Taxes are going to rise with development not go down. Need good information from all sides and not half truths.

Ben Franklin 03-27-2021 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1921469)
Dream on. You have awakened the rest of the Sumter electorate and they are not on your side.

Why? Do you like paying for what other people are responsible for?

Happydaz 03-27-2021 04:05 PM

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Stu from NYC 03-27-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 1921896)
Checked a ton in and around our area and it was less than 5% of the 100 or so we checked had a real increase of 25%(prior year 2019 amount check cut to current year 2020 check cut). Would luv to see the actual number of year over year taxes that went up 25%. Not in total agreement with either side but there should be a happy medium. Development is going to happen, no matter where you are if there is a demand. Taxes are going to rise with development not go down. Need good information from all sides and not half truths.

Our real estate tax went up by 25%. Just look at that portion and not the school tax and other things on the bill.

Bill14564 03-27-2021 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 1921896)
Checked a ton in and around our area and it was less than 5% of the 100 or so we checked had a real increase of 25%(prior year 2019 amount check cut to current year 2020 check cut). Would luv to see the actual number of year over year taxes that went up 25%. Not in total agreement with either side but there should be a happy medium. Development is going to happen, no matter where you are if there is a demand. Taxes are going to rise with development not go down. Need good information from all sides and not half truths.

Check 2018 to 2019, the taxes increased on the 2019 bill.

Give me any two addresses that did not increase 25%.


EDIT: No one said the check went up 25%. Property taxes went up 25% but not School Taxes, Maintenance, Fire Assessment, or Bond. Check the line that says "Sumter County," those are your property taxes and the millage rate for those went up 25% from 2018 to 2019.

thesteve685 03-28-2021 08:02 AM

amen to that. long live freedom of speech!

Aloha1 03-28-2021 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 1921479)
When the two incumbent commissioners and the state representative are voted out in the next election will you come back and add to your comments? 2 out of 3 Sumter County voters ousted the three incumbent commissioners. There still is 1/3 of the electorate that voted for them, but their small number wasn’t enough to retain them in office. It was a landslide election.

Under a false flag.

Aloha1 03-28-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by j_vermilya (Post 1921682)
I am very grateful to the 3 new commissioners....next to come, I believe, will be the roll back of the 25% property tax.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Carpe Diem 04-05-2021 09:34 PM

Why is it that, when the Developer builds a District that includes roads, utilities, paths & tunnels, earthmoving, etc it is incorporated into a bond that is paid off by homeowners over a 30 year period . . . but in this case the road expansions and infrastructure for the growth must be paid off by all the residents with a 25% tax increase over a just couple of years to balance the budget?

Even if it is decided that the Developer would not be paying for significant infrastructure improvements this time around, why couldn't the County balance the budget by financing it with a bond and increase resident property tax 2% over 30 years instead of 25% right now? The roads and infrastructure are going to be used for 30 years (at least) so they should be paid for over that span.


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