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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2399240)

Apparently, there are those that think good driving could and should be replaced by some sort of idiot proof MMP design.

The more they try to idiot proof the MMPs, the more speed people will adjust their governors for, and the faster they will drive and the more catastrophic the inevitable accidents will be.

Or put another way, you can try to idiot proof something, but we keep building better idiots.

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2399282)

That's exactly what it's about. However, if you went, and I quote, "Eisenhower to Brownwood to Everglades to Sawgrass to Rohan and back.", you were never on the Marsh Bend MMP. I do now note you added Fire Station 48, but that is still north of Corbin. The new section of the Marsh Bend MMP is from Corbin south to Central Parkway. Maybe on your next ride.........

I was on an MMP, it followed Marsh Bend from Warm Springs to Central Parkway, and it was new. If that is not the new Marsh Bend golf cart trail then they need a different name for it!

The MMP that heads up to Corbin Trail is still blocked off. The other option from Central Parkway up that direction is McNeill (with Corbin as an option at the top end).

Station 48 is at the intersection of Marsh Bend and Central Parkway, far south of Corbin.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2399289)

If you went to Central Parkway, you were on the path being discussed. The alternative prior to it opening was Corbin to McNeill and then down Bexley. Unfortunately, Villages Fire station #48 is shown on one map on Richey just off Fenney Way and a few blocks south of Warm Springs Rd, and on another exactly where you said it is. I'll go with your location since you were recently there. Now, what is it we were originally talking about????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Oh, yeah, the "safety" of that path

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2399216)

Here are some...

No blind corners. Clear landscaping and keep road signage and walls apart from paths. For example going east on McNeill, approaching Bexley, there is a huge village name sign in the street median, completely blocking cart's view of oncoming vehicles.

Avoid 90 degree turns where a curve could be used. These are easy to spot in many places.

Widen path at sharp turns. Simple no-brainer. A turning cart requires a wider width.

Don't make paths zig zag when a straight route is available. Avoids situations were oncoming carts are driving directly towards your cart (before they would curve right), with their headlights blinding you.

Put signage far ahead of areas where a turn might be needed. For example, at many tunnels the turn area also has signage saying which way each direction heads. Takes eyes off the road. Also use larger fonts to improve readability at further distances. Place lower so headlights illuminate them.

Locate entry/exit of tunnels further away from the T where they intersect the ramps, instead of having near zero distance between tunnel and access path. Not only is this a hard turn, there is no extra space, lousy sight lines, and blind spots.

None of these examples were hard to think about.
Just because they have not put any thought about safer designs in the past does not mean they should continue to do it the same old way. Being smart with designs costs nothing.

A straight path invites people go go faster. Curves slow them down...