Dear Villages Leadership

» Site Navigation
Home Page The Villages Maps The Villages Activities The Villages Clubs The Villages Book Healthcare Rentals Real Estate Section Classified Section The Villages Directory Home Improvement Site Guidelines Advertising Info Register Now Video Tutorials Frequently Asked Questions
» Newsletter Signup
» Premium Tower
» Advertisements
» Trending News
» Tower Sponsors




















» Premium Sponsors
» Banner Sponsors
» Advertisements
Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 02-22-2020, 11:08 AM
npwalters's Avatar
npwalters npwalters is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 547
Thanks: 3
Thanked 716 Times in 203 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoMar View Post
Villagers take projections as promises. Not sure why you think the "owe" us anything other than projections. I assume, they assume, that we are adults and understand how construction can change, how regulatory bodies can impact schedules and how "business's" choose markets and make determinations based on revenue where they will put their stores. You bought into a dynamic community, one that will ebb and flow until you sections is built out. It might be difficult for you but the Developer owes you nothing and it is their business to manage.
I have the opinion that any business that sells houses based on projections has the moral duty to address - at least with information - significant failures of those projections.

I do not want to do business with anyone who does not feel that way.
__________________
Pam&Nick
  #17  
Old 02-22-2020, 11:15 AM
Marathon Man Marathon Man is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,664
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1,388 Times in 509 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdNoMore View Post

Yep, you can bet they do.

A perfect example was thread a while back, on the abominable conditions (and premature failure...sound familiar?) of the green street signs...with photo's attached.

Within just a few short weeks, those (and other) failing signs...were replaced.

Just a pure coincidence?


If anyone believes that...I have this bridge for sale.
"The Developer" did not take care of the street signs. So, no. I don't think that "The Developer" reads TOTV. And, I also don't believe that there is a bridge for sale.

I search for facts before forming an opinion. But, that's just me.
  #18  
Old 02-22-2020, 11:19 AM
Marathon Man Marathon Man is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,664
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1,388 Times in 509 Posts
Default

So, generally speaking, I wave to agree with this one. I think that "The Developer" would be doing a good thing if they came across with an update. Even if it is not what we want to hear, at least we would have something. It's time.
  #19  
Old 02-22-2020, 11:27 AM
ColdNoMore ColdNoMore is offline
Sage
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Between 466 & 466A
Posts: 10,512
Thanks: 82
Thanked 1,493 Times in 672 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marathon Man View Post
"The Developer" did not take care of the street signs. So, no. I don't think that "The Developer" reads TOTV. And, I also don't believe that there is a bridge for sale.

I search for facts before forming an opinion. But, that's just me.
You are correct in that it is the county's responsibility...to maintain the street signs.

It's beyond naïve to think however, that Da Family doesn't stay in close contact with the county...on those things that might reflect poorly on TV.

I'm still trying to reconcile however, your contradictory statements...in a single post.

I'm sure I'm not the only one, curious as to what "facts" you have found (after supposedly) searching...that Da Family doesn't read TOTV.

Please share...we'll wait.
  #20  
Old 02-22-2020, 11:30 AM
New Englander New Englander is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Massachusetts, Pinellas, Now Sanibel
Posts: 1,586
Thanks: 336
Thanked 847 Times in 271 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter View Post
Do you really think "The Villages Leadership" reads TOTV?
Honestly, I think they do.
__________________
Is this a great country or what?
  #21  
Old 02-22-2020, 11:43 AM
CWGUY's Avatar
CWGUY CWGUY is offline
Sage
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,671
Thanks: 3,660
Thanked 1,367 Times in 609 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter View Post
Do you really think "The Villages Leadership" reads TOTV?
Quote:
Originally Posted by New Englander View Post
Honestly, I think they do.
Honestly, I think they don't. My guess is they are way too busy.
__________________
__________________________________________________
Trying To Understand Some People Is Like Trying To Smell The Color 9
  #22  
Old 02-22-2020, 12:22 PM
Rapscallion St Croix's Avatar
Rapscallion St Croix Rapscallion St Croix is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: TV..Ugly Golf Swing Capital of the World
Posts: 1,687
Thanks: 18
Thanked 585 Times in 218 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter View Post
Do you really think "The Villages Leadership" reads TOTV?
I think that is an additional duty of the IT guy. Each morning he presents a PowerPoint briefing summarizing the previous 24 hours of TOTV and TV News. In attendance at said briefing is the vast team of spin doctors who then prioritize the issues into three categories, Raving Nut Cases, Just Whining, and Empire Threatening. Further prioritization is then accomplished within the last category and a team is implemented to either develop "feel good" solutions, nominate scapegoats, or, in some cases employ red herrings or smoke and mirrors. After enjoying cognac and Cuban cigars, secret handshakes are exchanged and everyone goes on their merry way.
__________________
What am I supposed to call my Plantation Shutters now?
  #23  
Old 02-22-2020, 12:26 PM
alwann's Avatar
alwann alwann is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Village of Gilchrist
Posts: 623
Thanks: 1
Thanked 318 Times in 111 Posts
Default Villages Leadership

Want to know the Villages's leadership? Google this: The Villages of Lake-sumter Inc

All the officers are listed there, along with their email addresses. There's a Mr. Lester listed who I believe is in charge of community relations. Maybe he will respond to your questions.

I'm always fascinated by how little the developer communicates. A town meeting once a year (limited, I believe, to HOA members), and with no Q&A, doesn't cut it. I speak as a former PR executive for a Fortune 10 company.

Of course, he/they don't have to communicate. It's a privately held business. Then again, I wonder whether the developer gives a hoot about his reputation.
  #24  
Old 02-22-2020, 12:39 PM
ColdNoMore ColdNoMore is offline
Sage
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Between 466 & 466A
Posts: 10,512
Thanks: 82
Thanked 1,493 Times in 672 Posts
Default

My guess is that it's a minimum wage employee, whose daily job duties include looking at TOTV, the online newspaper and certain other media (re: Tampa Times/local papers).

IMHO, it would be pretty ridiculous (and naïve/borderline dumb) to think that Da Family doesn't try to stay right on top of what the general feelings are...by both residents and non-residents.

And whatever else they may also be...Da Family isn't "dumb."

It's called "opposition/competitor research" and I challenge anyone to prove that any entity, political or corporate...that isn't fully involved in doing such.

So why would anyone think that TV...is any different?

Anxiously awaiting for...proof otherwise.
  #25  
Old 02-22-2020, 01:32 PM
Retiring's Avatar
Retiring Retiring is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 547
Thanks: 0
Thanked 44 Times in 23 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter View Post
Do you really think "The Villages Leadership" reads TOTV?
Ask any TV Sales agent and you’ll find they actually do read TOTV. Ask any TV Sales agent what TV upper management thinks of people that post on TOTV and you might be crushed, if you’re thin skinned.
  #26  
Old 02-22-2020, 02:11 PM
Marathon Man Marathon Man is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,664
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1,388 Times in 509 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdNoMore View Post
You are correct in that it is the county's responsibility...to maintain the street signs.

It's beyond naïve to think however, that Da Family doesn't stay in close contact with the county...on those things that might reflect poorly on TV.

I'm still trying to reconcile however, your contradictory statements...in a single post.

I'm sure I'm not the only one, curious as to what "facts" you have found (after supposedly) searching...that Da Family doesn't read TOTV.

Please share...we'll wait.
Seriously? That is what you took away from my statement. Whatever.
  #27  
Old 02-22-2020, 02:49 PM
Bucco Bucco is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,542
Thanks: 180
Thanked 1,956 Times in 629 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by graciegirl View Post
Rte .44 Brownwood Bridge


Those who benefit from negativity about the new areas are those who cannot sell houses in the new area. I always wonder about things like this.
I am sure there must be a conspiracy involved in some way.
  #28  
Old 02-22-2020, 02:51 PM
Bucco Bucco is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,542
Thanks: 180
Thanked 1,956 Times in 629 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retiring View Post
Ask any TV Sales agent and you’ll find they actually do read TOTV. Ask any TV Sales agent what TV upper management thinks of people that post on TOTV and you might be crushed, if you’re thin skinned.
VERY true
  #29  
Old 02-22-2020, 03:32 PM
OrangeBlossomBaby OrangeBlossomBaby is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 4,693
Thanks: 3,517
Thanked 4,729 Times in 1,456 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by retiredguy123 View Post
I think I would be frustrated also. But, I have seen other housing developments go a lot worse. I know people in Virginia who bought condos for $850K in 2006, and before the building was even finished, the new prices dropped to $650K. There are gated golf communities in the Carolinas that sat half empty for years because the developer couldn't sell them. At least The Villages property values seem to be holding up, so you can usually get your money back if you want.
This standard: "other places are worse" is pretty sad. I could live in Antarctica and be happy, if all I had to do was apply "other places are worse" to my primary set of criteria.

The fact that some people really do feel that we should be grateful because "other places are worse" indicates that some people have very low standards.

I don't expect a gourmet chef to come to my house and cook me my meals every day, but I do expect golf cart access to anywhere in the Villages. I don't even expect that access to be easy or quick. This is not an unreasonable expectation in a golf cart community. It should be a -minimum- expectation in a golf cart community.

If you can't even set your standards to that bare minimum, then I'd say it's your standards at fault, and not anyone complaining about the situation.
  #30  
Old 02-22-2020, 04:22 PM
Bogie Shooter Bogie Shooter is offline
Sage
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 15,284
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1,978 Times in 917 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by npwalters View Post
The main takeaway from your post that any reasonable person should agree with is this: The developer owes updated and reliable information to the residents. They were quick to publish optimistic anticipated times in their sales literature and should correct it now that those estimates are long past.
Owes??
__________________
The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell.
“Only truth and transparency can guarantee freedom”, John McCain
Closed Thread

Tags
sell, villages, store, cart, south

Thread Tools

You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:27 AM.