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MDLNB 07-25-2015 12:47 PM

What???? I've been wasting my time, attempting to make peace? If I would have known that this 80% rain wasn't going to happen today, I would be outside, smoking a pork butt with some applewood. I had to buy a new/larger smoker because I keep accumulating more visiting neighbors whenever I throw the meat on. Seems like BBQ is something that makes everyone happy. :mmmm::icon_hungry::beer3:

TheVillageChicken 07-25-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1091500)
Nope, that never happens. LOL :D

That is because most of what passes as argument is actually just contradiction.

Bonny 07-25-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1091506)
That is because most of what passes as argument is actually just contradiction.

:agree:

HimandMe 07-25-2015 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1091498)
I wonder if a single mind has ever been changed because of a debate on TOTV.

If we are set on proving our point often we don't hear the other side long enough to consider "is this too perhaps true". That takes flexibility, honesty and the ability to allow ourselves to be partially wrong. Yet if we can and deliberately do it often, how enriching for us.

As an aside, I just watched again for the sixth time, "what the bleep down the rabbit hole". How revealing.

graciegirl 07-25-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HimandMe (Post 1091510)
If we are set on proving our point often we don't hear the other side long enough to consider "is this too perhaps true". That takes flexibility, honesty and the ability to allow ourselves to be partially wrong. Yet if we can and deliberately do it often, how enriching for us.

As an aside, I just watched again for the sixth time, "what the bleep down the rabbit hole". How revealing.





Is this a movie? A comment I missed because I wasn't listening, or something else that I don't know because I am behind the times?

njbchbum 07-25-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1091496)
You do know that when it comes to traffic violations, the police officer has the option to write a citation or issue a warning, verbal or written?
There is a difference between mountains and molehills, regardless of your intolerance for any deviation of so called rules. None of this had anything to do with your property value, or any other little pet peeves that some on here may have. We know what this is all about, regardless of how much folks on here have exaggerated the incident.

I am going to suggest that the original author of this thread, close this thread by apologizing to the sticklers on here for even thinking that she would get empathy for her humiliation and embarrassment. Her actions are on par with abandoning her home and yard, and leaving it in grave disrepair. I bet the homes in her neighborhood have already dropped in value due to her callous disregard for rules. As we all know from our great political leaders, rule are rules. Or, maybe not so much.

Oh, and we should all praise the hard work and initiative of the person that probably spent long hours writing up 30 or more frivolous complaints....:blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

And as we are all aware now from participating in this thread, Villagers exercise their options re whether to report an infraction or not to report it. When it comes to 'policing' our community we are the police as well as the policed.

PattyPan1 07-25-2015 02:38 PM

Deed Compliance
 
It seems that my post caused the dust to fly.

I have no problem with the deed compliance rules. The problem I have is that if a complaint is made, a name (verified) should be taken.

I have no intention of bringing torches to the home of the person complaining, it would just give the office a name so they can follow up on how many complaints this person is making.

Making 30 complaints in one day on various homes (not all in the same vicinity) seems a bit much. After awhile, it would seem the person complaining has a problem that needs to be addressed.

My lawn has fertilizer on the parts that were in bad shape. We were trying to rectify the problem in the weeks prior to the complaint. I know miracles happen, but not that quick.

It also feels like Nazi Germany where people secretly report on others. I know that sounds a bit much, but it's just a form of speech.

For those holier than thou, I know about the deed compliance and we do follow it. So, if you have a complaint about us, please feel free to be put in the same boat as the tattler.

KeepingItReal 07-25-2015 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PattyPan1 (Post 1091548)

I have no problem with the deed compliance rules. The problem I have is that if a complaint is made, a name (verified) should be taken.

It also feels like Nazi Germany where people secretly report on others. I know that sounds a bit much, but it's just a form of speech.

So, if you have a complaint about us, please feel free to be put in the same boat as the tattler.

And while we are at it why not post your name and address on this site each time we post?

Barefoot 07-25-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1091452)
Well, see? You just did the same thing you chastised others for doing re the deed restrictions. Just a different area! So judge not lest ye be judged!
The only thing I saw wrong in this thread was a person PRE-calling his neighbors idiots in case they turned in a complaint about his lawn--which they didn't, and which, in his lack of community spirit himself, he went away and left abandoned for three months with no one checking up on it to make sure it remained in good condition. Is that the community spirit you're talking about? Because to me, community spirit is more about keeping your property up for the benefit of your neighbors, as opposed to community spirit being not complaining when something is left neglected.


:024::agree:

Bonny 07-25-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 1091554)
And while we are at it why not post your name and address on this site each time we post?

Might as well get the phone number too!!
To tell someone the person's name who made the complaint could be disastrous.
There are many people that might take that opportunity to retaliate or cause problems in the neighborhood if it was a neighbor. You never know what goes on with people and what might set them off.

CathyandSteveG 07-25-2015 07:37 PM

I do not live in TV...but i would like to address this....if you call the police to report a violation they take your name address and phone number.... that information is kept confidential....however it does bring accountability to the reporter.

I see no reason that the person in TV taking the complaints should not get the personal information from the person filing the complaint. It should be kept confidential....but it should also be kept on file so that the complainer is accountable for all the complaints filed.

I hope to be coming to TV very soon...we have potential buyers coming for the second time tomorrow....
I hope and pray that i live up to the expectations of the people i live near...and i can assure you...i will not be reporting anyone for anything.

My real estate agent told me that my house is worth what the appraiser says based on the comps of similar house sales in the past 6 months. It is based on square footage and amenities. She never mentioned my neighbors.....and it is a darn good thing....because her place is a mess....and while a potential buyer may not want to live next to my neighbor...it is no reflection of the value of my home. My home is only worth what it appraises for.....and is not based on the brown spots or weeds or empty flowers pots in my neighbors yard.

Challenger 07-25-2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CathyandSteveG (Post 1091607)
I do not live in TV...but i would like to address this....if you call the police to report a violation they take your name address and phone number.... that information is kept confidential....however it does bring accountability to the reporter.

I see no reason that the person in TV taking the complaints should not get the personal information from the person filing the complaint. It should be kept confidential....but it should also be kept on file so that the complainer is accountable for all the complaints filed.

I hope to be coming to TV very soon...we have potential buyers coming for the second time tomorrow....
I hope and pray that i live up to the expectations of the people i live near...and i can assure you...i will not be reporting anyone for anything.

My real estate agent told me that my house is worth what the appraiser says based on the comps of similar house sales in the past 6 months. It is based on square footage and amenities. She never mentioned my neighbors.....and it is a darn good thing....because her place is a mess....and while a potential buyer may not want to live next to my neighbor...it is no reflection of the value of my home. My home is only worth what it appraises for.....and is not based on the brown spots or weeds or empty flowers pots in my neighbors yard.

The appraised value of a home is based on current sales of comparable homes in areas as close as possible to the subject property, adjusted for condition, age and other factors. Desirability of the neighborhood is definitly one of the conditions that can have a great effect on value.

While one uncared for property usually won't make much difference, a trend towards lax maintenance can begin the spiral that causes falling neighborhood values.

mfp509 07-25-2015 08:01 PM

Cathy and Steve - it may not affect the value of your house but people looking to buy are more apt to pass on your house if your neighborhood looks like a trailer park with cheesy decorations or unmanicured lawns in favor of a neat neighborhood - lawns mowed, shrubs trimmed and no menagerie of ornaments. It is very easy to get out of control if there is leniency. As the saying goes - give an inch, they take a foot. Just my opinion.

CFrance 07-25-2015 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1091609)
The appraised value of a home is based on current sales of comparable homes in areas as close as possible to the subject property, adjusted for condition, age and other factors. Desirability of the neighborhood is definitly one of the conditions that can have a great effect on value.

While one uncared for property usually won't make much difference, a trend towards lax maintenance can begin the spiral that causes falling neighborhood values.

I believe it would make a big difference if it was next-door to the house you were considering buying.

Polar Bear 07-25-2015 08:05 PM

Deed Compliance
 
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Originally Posted by CathyandSteveG (Post 1091607)
I do not live in TV...but i would like to address this....if you call the police to report a violation they take your name address and phone number.... that information is kept confidential....however it does bring accountability to the reporter.

I see no reason that the person in TV taking the complaints should not get the personal information from the person filing the complaint...

Apples and oranges IMHO. Possible felonies and misdemeanors by strangers vs. possible code violations by neighbors you want to be friends with. And yes...again IMHO...you can be friends with them if it is a reasonable complaint. (I believe a pattern of abuse could be distinguished even with anonymous complaints.)

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Originally Posted by CathyandSteveG (Post 1091607)
...i can assure you...i will not be reporting anyone for anything...

I'm not sure why you sound so proud, or would wish to live in a deed-restricted community. Personally, I don't think any responsible homeowner should make such a definitive, final promise.


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