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Jima64 07-20-2015 09:32 AM

Intolerable
 
Unfortunately what this person making the complaints based on their opinion of what is "intolerable" to them and how it violates the deed restrictions.. I personally find the new homes very bland and unfriendly looking at the empty yards.

gap2415 07-20-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1089344)
Just out of curiosity, and not out of vindictiveness or whatnot, I wandered my neighborhood examining the nice homes, from the street. I noticed that technically, the majority of homes were in violation of one or more community standards. But, in my opinion the violations are in good or tolerable taste. We have a neighborhood email system that keeps us up to date with the local goings-ons. Some of the older/senior residents that have lived here since the homes were originally built have been quite adamant about "no change." Yet, they have established their small deviations to the rules and have no problem with it. I am referring to driveway changes, yard ornaments, etc. They have been quite vocal about any "new" residents making subtle changes to their homes. Every time I hear of someone complaining about a change, shortly after, it seems I get an email saying that the compliance board has changed their position on the issue, such as door color, home color, driveway color, back wall color (CYV) etc. It seems that once someone in "the clique" wants a change, someone takes action. A petition went around about a year ago to allow home color changes in our one color neighborhood. It was passed by the majority and a color pallet was posted. One our fairly new neighbors, wanting to comply and be accepted in the neighborhood, was first to change their home color. The next door neighbor walked over and examined the newly painted color and declared it to be ugly. Of course, that was from a senior neighbor that was an original owner. The home owner that had the newly painted exterior, also received numerous/many compliments from neighbors throughout the community. Now, others are starting to change their color. Doors are changing from the once standard white to more individually preferred colors, personalizing their homes. A new neighbor moved in recently and installed an interesting, small yard ornament of painted cast iron. It appears to be vintage or antique. I found it interesting, but I heard of a few rumors of disgruntled neighbors making slight of it. Those same complainers have violations in their yards, in form of yard ornaments. Although, I don't find their yard "art" to be ugly or offensive, and don't care.
I hear many of you state "rules are rules" with no semblance of tolerance suggested. I wonder how many of you are "tolerated" by your neighbors, even though they may not "condone."
Neighborhood rules are NOT laws. Yes, we need rules to motivate some folks to comply with majority set standards. But, some rules should have a certain amount of flexibility and tolerance. I see a neighbor's landscaping or lawn ornament that I would not have in my yard. Since I don't like it, does that mean I should find a violation and report it?
Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting the blatant violation of community standards, rather a certain amount of tolerance. The ones complaining about violations of community standards seem to be violating the most important Villages standard: "America's Friendliest Town."
But, rules are after all, rules. :police:

Very nicely said and with the exception of a few literalists, I believe most people believe this...it's the spirit of the rules in this friendliest of neighborhoods. Let's keep it that way.

gap2415 07-20-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by donsimson (Post 1088880)
Remember-You signed a paper agreeing to keep you place looking nice. If you don't and no one complains, we will become a "Tobacco Road" area probably like what you came from. We police our own- keep it cleaned up and no one can complain.

I believe these types of views are extreme. We are speaking of minor things nothing blatant for sure. It would not be tolerated but can we exhale, laugh out loud and enjoy our very minor nuances of our neighbors and ourselves without fear of someone reporting a small offense than amounts to nothing really. Will we get down to the point of blaming a neighbor because his red leaf dropped from his gutter onto our driveway last night...for that is pessimists direction. Let's enjoy this beautiful community in a spirit of real friendship. Yes you can follow the letter of the law to the extreme but contrast that feeling you get with a smile and a handshake from neighboring friends doing very little harm to you or anyone else.
I also believe any complainer should give their name and address to prove it is a legitimate complaint and not just some busy body with nothing to do but to stir up strife.

MDLNB 07-20-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1089453)
Very well said! If we all had the same tastes there would only be vanilla, no chocolate, we could all live in giant grey concrete apartment buildings, etc. Cut a little slack, if things are reasonable, let others enjoy their life too.
Those that complain loudly about the neighbor's bronze birds or concrete turtle, probably adore the Morse's giant "lawn art" such as the phony faded beer signs and covered wagon planter in Spanish Springs, or the cannons "guarding" the entrance to Spanish Springs, or the "wrecked" boats littering Lake Sumter, or the rusting empty grain elevator and windmill that pumps no water in Brownwood, not to mention the silly bronze cowboy, his dog and his "herd" of steers. And I could go on.
Must be in the eye of the beholder.:loco:

:agree:

MDLNB 07-20-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gap2415 (Post 1089496)
I believe these types of views are extreme. We are speaking of minor things nothing blatant for sure. It would not be tolerated but can we exhale, laugh out loud and enjoy our very minor nuances of our neighbors and ourselves without fear of someone reporting a small offense than amounts to nothing really. Will we get down to the point of blaming a neighbor because his red leaf dropped from his gutter onto our driveway last night...for that is pessimists direction. Let's enjoy this beautiful community in a spirit of real friendship. Yes you can follow the letter of the law to the extreme but contrast that feeling you get with a smile and a handshake from neighboring friends doing very little harm to you or anyone else.
I also believe any complainer should give their name and address to prove it is a legitimate complaint and not just some busy body with nothing to do but to stir up strife.

Well said. :agree:

MDLNB 07-20-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1089476)
Unfortunately what this person making the complaints based on their opinion of what is "intolerable" to them and how it violates the deed restrictions.. I personally find the new homes very bland and unfriendly looking at the empty yards.

I agree. In my opinion, after reading the first post/complaint, the person making 30 complaints in the area must have an ax to grind or agenda of some sort. I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that he/she was ticked off about receiving a complaint themselves.

And I also agree about the present state of the new homes. Almost makes you think of entering a military housing area.

MDLNB 07-20-2015 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 1089438)
I've seen enough developments without deed restrictions in our area, those modest ornaments add up until the whole place looks like a posterior pucker!
I observe all things, I just don't give a damn about most!

Do I detect a contradiction?

CFrance 07-20-2015 11:04 AM

I think more people complain on paper (i.e., here or to friends) about deed restriction violations than actually call and complain officially. I believe that rules are rules and should be followed, but unless I saw something that blighted the neighborhood (ratty car on blocks, RV permanently parked, dead or overgrown yard), I wouldn't complain about it.

The few who ride around taking notes and filing numerous complaints at one time are unhappy, vindictive little power mongers, IMO. I think the compliance people should ignore them. If they are so adamant about following their own rules (must follow up on any complaints), they ought to do their own checks.

broycenjuice 07-20-2015 11:11 AM

Abandoned houses
 
Why is deed compliance not going after bank owned houses that have weeds in the driveways, overgrown shrubs, burnt out lawns and a run down house?

MDLNB 07-20-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1089537)
I think more people complain on paper (i.e., here or to friends) about deed restriction violations than actually call and complain officially. I believe that rules are rules and should be followed, but unless I saw something that blighted the neighborhood (ratty car on blocks, RV permanently parked, dead or overgrown yard), I wouldn't complain about it.

The few who ride around taking notes and filing numerous complaints at one time are unhappy, vindictive little power mongers, IMO. I think the compliance people should ignore them. If they are so adamant about following their own rules (must follow up on any complaints), they ought to do their own checks.

:agree:

Polar Bear 07-20-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by broycenjuice (Post 1089541)
Why is deed compliance not going after bank owned houses that have weeds in the driveways, overgrown shrubs, burnt out lawns and a run down house?

As a long-time manager of an engineering section involved in code enforcement, I can attest that bank-owned homes are about the most difficult to deal with when it comes to correcting code violations. Most banks pretty much ignore notices, and there is little leverage. Threat of a lien gets a homeowner's attention quickly. Not so much for a bank.

Bogie Shooter 07-20-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1089453)
Very well said! If we all had the same tastes there would only be vanilla, no chocolate, we could all live in giant grey concrete apartment buildings, etc. Cut a little slack, if things are reasonable, let others enjoy their life too.
Those that complain loudly about the neighbor's bronze birds or concrete turtle, probably adore the Morse's giant "lawn art" such as the phony faded beer signs and covered wagon planter in Spanish Springs, or the cannons "guarding" the entrance to Spanish Springs, or the "wrecked" boats littering Lake Sumter, or the rusting empty grain elevator and windmill that pumps no water in Brownwood, not to mention the silly bronze cowboy, his dog and his "herd" of steers. And I could go on.
Must be in the eye of the beholder.:loco:

Really??

DonH57 07-20-2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1089522)
I agree. In my opinion, after reading the first post/complaint, the person making 30 complaints in the area must have an ax to grind or agenda of some sort. I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that he/she was ticked off about receiving a complaint themselves.

And I also agree about the present state of the new homes. Almost makes you think of entering a military housing area.

I believed earlier someone used the name "Anonymous Crusaders". Catchy name! These people tie up so much compliance department time you just got to trust the compliance staff pretty much know 95 percent are without merit before they leave the desk to check them out. I don't know how much things have changed in the military since i was in but military housing was the tightest restrictive housing I've seen.

Bogie Shooter 07-20-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by broycenjuice (Post 1089541)
Why is deed compliance not going after bank owned houses that have weeds in the driveways, overgrown shrubs, burnt out lawns and a run down house?

What makes you think that they are not??

beachx4me 07-20-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by naneiben (Post 1089227)
Really? Very sad and pitiful? This would be way at the bottom of my sad and pitiful list. :cryin2: Namaste.

Yes, really and seriously. I find it sad that someone has self appointed themselves as the yard patrol. With the time they are spending doing this they could actually be doing something fun.

And now it has stopped raining and I intend to do something fun!!


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