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Bogie Shooter 02-15-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1360540)
I'm probably a minority, but I really miss a fenced back yard for my pups (2 small girls) to run in. Had a wrought iron black fences in the back yards of our KC and STL homes. Will not take them to any dog park here anymore because of aggressive dogs in the under 30lb. side; I promised a guy that if his dog made one more attempt toward either of my dogs, I would stop the threat. I guess he saw I meant business when I brought out the expandable 30" steel baton.

Wow!

golfing eagles 02-15-2017 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1360625)
Wow!

:agree:

Of course, the problem might be that while owner A is protecting his dog with a steel baton, owner B might decide to protect his dog with a gun. If owner A has a gun, owner B will have an AK 47, if owner A has an AK 47, owner B will have a hand grenade. Beware dog owners in the park that show up in full body armor!

dbussone 02-15-2017 11:36 AM

Deed Restriction Enforcement
 
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1360559)
Wait a minute... are you serious, DB? Just curious.



No. I would report aggressive dogs to animal control. But if one came after my dog in our yard, I would deal with it very harshly. Over Thanksgiving my brother's very large lab grabbed my 17 pound dog by the neck and started shaking him. I kicked the lab as hard in it's windpipe as I could. It immediately dropped my dog. Luckily my dog was ok. My brother's was as well, but I think he has since put the dog down. This was not the first time the dog had done that, and a prior attack resulted in serious injury to a smaller dog.


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TheDude 02-18-2017 12:01 AM

May 1, district 10, May 1

Barefoot 02-18-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1360744)
No. I would report aggressive dogs to animal control. But if one came after my dog in our yard, I would deal with it very harshly. Over Thanksgiving my brother's very large lab grabbed my 17 pound dog by the neck and started shaking him. I kicked the lab as hard in it's windpipe as I could. It immediately dropped my dog. Luckily my dog was ok. My brother's was as well, but I think he has since put the dog down. This was not the first time the dog had done that, and a prior attack resulted in serious injury to a smaller dog.

Like DB, I would never harm a dog unless it threatened another dog. And then, all bets are off.
I understand kicking a dog in the windpipe if he is shaking a small dog.
I've been taking my dog to various dog parks for over sixteen years, and he's never had a problem,
but I keep him well away from any dogs that look "iffy".

graciegirl 02-18-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1362109)
Like DB, I would never harm a dog unless it threatened another dog. And then, all bets are off.
I understand kicking a dog in the windpipe if he is shaking a small dog.
I've been taking my dog to various dog parks for over sixteen years, and he's never had a problem,
but I keep him well away from any dogs that look "iffy".

That is how I raised my kids too. It is wise to be skeptical of those iffy kinds and try to keep your distance. Stay away from the ones who want to kill or hurt. Furry or otherwise. We are given common sense and instinct too.

John_W 02-18-2017 03:32 PM

Do the dog parks have a water hose, or spigot. I've always heard the best way to break up a dog fight is with a water hose sprayed at the dogs. Suddenly they lose their aggression and are too concerned about not getting wet. If that's not handy, then maybe just a can of mace or pepper spray might do the trick without harming either dog seriously. Amazon has the dog walker special with spray approved for use on dogs.

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Barefoot 02-18-2017 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1362227)
I've always heard the best way to break up a dog fight is with a water hose sprayed at the dogs. Suddenly they lose their aggression and are too concerned about not getting wet.

A water pistol can work; anything to interrupt the dogs' train of thought. :doggie:

Bjeanj 02-18-2017 06:59 PM

Getting off topic.
1) Each district has their own deed restrictions.
2) read the restrictions for YOUR district.
3) The latest changes relate to ENFORCEMENT of restrictions.
4) If you see something you object to, either report it or ignore it (and dont gripe about it if you don't report it). It's possible their deed restrictions aren't the same as yours.

DonH57 02-18-2017 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 1362345)
Getting off topic.
1) Each district has their own deed restrictions.
2) read the restrictions for YOUR district.
3) The latest changes relate to ENFORCEMENT of restrictions.
4) If you see something you object to, either report it or ignore it (and dont gripe about it if you don't report it). It's possible their deed restrictions aren't the same as yours.

Exactly. Part of the problem lies with the misunderstanding that all village districts have the same restrictions. They don't!

Dgreenbucks 02-19-2017 05:42 AM

I agree and this is not good. The Deed restrictions are in place for all of us to enjoy this beautiful place to live. Without them, this place would literally go to hell in a handbasket. Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers and let's all put our lawn furniture in the front of our home.

Chatbrat 02-19-2017 05:58 AM

In the state of Florida any business working on motor vehicles must be registered with the dept of agriculture- a golf cart by definition is a motor vehicle-

Honestly turn the golf cart business into the state--they work for free

golfing eagles 02-19-2017 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgreenbucks (Post 1362464)
I agree and this is not good. The Deed restrictions are in place for all of us to enjoy this beautiful place to live. Without them, this place would literally go to hell in a handbasket. Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers and let's all put our lawn furniture in the front of our home.

Don't forget to put out a few major appliances as well:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

ColdNoMore 02-19-2017 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 1362345)
Getting off topic.
1) Each district has their own deed restrictions.
2) read the restrictions for YOUR district.
3) The latest changes relate to ENFORCEMENT of restrictions.
4) If you see something you object to, either report it or ignore it (and dont gripe about it if you don't report it). It's possible their deed restrictions aren't the same as yours.

Actually, you aren't "getting off topic" at all...you're bringing the thread...back 'on topic.' :thumbup:

twoplanekid 02-19-2017 08:55 AM

Has a court case in Florida taken place to determine that the accused has a right to stand before the accusers in a deed compliance case? I understand that anonymous submissions are welcomed and anyone, even nonresidents may submit a possible violation.

What works for a community of 120,000 may be difficult to sustain for one when reaching 250,000. At some point in time the deed compliance process may need to be tweaked.

DonH57 02-19-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgreenbucks (Post 1362464)
I agree and this is not good. The Deed restrictions are in place for all of us to enjoy this beautiful place to live. Without them, this place would literally go to hell in a handbasket. Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers and let's all put our lawn furniture in the front of our home.

Now I have a use for those old tractor tires I can now drag out of storage.:1rotfl:

Challenger 02-19-2017 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1362518)
Has a court case in Florida taken place to determine that the accused has a right to stand before the accusers in a deed compliance case? I understand that anonymous submissions are welcomed and anyone, even nonresidents may submit a possible violation.

What works for a community of 120,000 may be difficult to sustain for one when reaching 250,000. At some point in time the deed compliance process may need to be tweaked.

deed restrictions are a contract with every other property owner who is subject to those same restrictions. A violation, if substantiated ,is a breach with every other party in the contract. An anonymous report is probably not the opinion of just one person. If only one person subject to the restrictions objects to a prohibited activity, he/she has the standing to enforce it in court -- if necessary.

dbussone 02-19-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1362525)
Now I have a use for those old tractor tires I can now drag out of storage.:1rotfl:



They make great planters.


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DonH57 02-19-2017 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1362595)
They make great planters.


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Exactly. Great planters, and if you're fortunate enough to have a large tree, a great huge tire swing!:pepper2:

Barefoot 02-19-2017 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1362603)
Exactly. Great planters, and if you're fortunate enough to have a large tree, a great huge tire swing! :pepper2:

What a great idea.
Never mind the little white crosses, a tire swing for every yard that is lucky enough to have a big tree. :MOJE_whot:

graciegirl 02-19-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1362518)
Has a court case in Florida taken place to determine that the accused has a right to stand before the accusers in a deed compliance case? I understand that anonymous submissions are welcomed and anyone, even nonresidents may submit a possible violation.

What works for a community of 120,000 may be difficult to sustain for one when reaching 250,000. At some point in time the deed compliance process may need to be tweaked.

Maybe most of us don't want it changed. We have chosen, CHOSEN, to live in areas that have deed restrictions for the last forty years. It protects the value of your property and makes areas pleasant looking. NOT everyone has excellent taste in lawn adornment.

I think you would like The Villages to not be a CDD. I like it just like it is and so do most of us who understand what it is. It is one of the reasons that it is head and shoulders above a like sized area run in the "traditional" way where dumb bunnies are elected.

Bjeanj 02-19-2017 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dgreenbucks (Post 1362464)
Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers and let's all put our lawn furniture in the front of our home.

This is hilarious! I say that because the first time my husband saw one he thought someone had buried their pet at that spot.

twoplanekid 02-19-2017 02:36 PM

After attending The Villages Community standards meeting on deed compliance and architectural review for District 10 last week, it was my understanding that several rules relating to what can happen between houses and streets are under review to sort out differences between developer and CDD controlled areas.

1 silver fox 02-20-2017 05:07 AM

The Property Standards Dept is a JOKE. If you call to report an obvious non-compliance they will tell you that is does not meet the LEVEL of non-compliance. We have LEVELS now.

lpaul530 02-20-2017 08:24 AM

And there is more.....there is a local management company outside The Villages that is running an AirBnB business in The Villages. Just go to the airbnb website and look for homes in The Villages and see what you find. There are many homes listed and he has over 50. So we now have homes being used as hotels. So if it is a 3 bedroom home; 3 bedrooms can be rented to 3 separate people. They could each have 2 dogs which puts 6 dogs in the house. These can be nightly rentals; like a hotel; so three cars parked in the driveways and it just goes on. And the district has been made aware of it.

VApeople 02-20-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgreenbucks (Post 1362464)
Little crosses look like pet cemetery markers

I am not a Christian and I think the small white crosses in front of people's homes are very tasteful.

bhallam 02-20-2017 09:44 AM

Deed restriction enforcement
 
We had a neighbor who was going door to door offering political lawn signs. We told him that this was against the deed restrictions and that he should backtrack and let people who had accepted the signs know that they couldn't put them on their lawn. Shortly after we had this conversation someone from Community Standards showed up and told another neighbor to take the sign down that he had placed on his lawn. Unfortunately now at least one neighbor has assumed that we called Community Standards (we didn't) and reported them and as a result is not speaking to us. What is wrong with people.

golfing eagles 02-20-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bhallam (Post 1363036)
We had a neighbor who was going door to door offering political lawn signs. We told him that this was against the deed restrictions and that he should backtrack and let people who had accepted the signs know that they couldn't put them on their lawn. Shortly after we had this conversation someone from Community Standards showed up and told another neighbor to take the sign down that he had placed on his lawn. Unfortunately now at least one neighbor has assumed that we called Community Standards (we didn't) and reported them and as a result is not speaking to us. What is wrong with people.

So let me get this straight: Your neighbor is not speaking to you because they feel you called community standards for a political sign they wanted to keep against deed restrictions and that they probably wouldn't have even had if this guy didn't come around and hand them out? You're right---what IS wrong with people

Challenger 02-20-2017 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1363002)
I am not a Christian and I think the small white crosses in front of people's homes are very tasteful.

Tasteful doesn't count- Permitted is the issue!!!!

skip0358 02-20-2017 11:54 AM

I don't really care one way or another but I have a question & before you jump on me I know what the restriction says. WHY do I have to obey the deed restriction because my front yard faces a street and is visible to cars and must look oh so nice but it's ok for someones backyard the is visible to a street can look anyway it wants. Just curious ?

merrymini 02-20-2017 12:37 PM

I moved to the villages because of the restrictions and because of the way it looked as a result of those restrictions. If you do not want restrictions, do not live here. There are communities that do not have any. It is your responsibility to learn what the restrictions are in your district and obey them. If you do not break the rules, you have nothing to worry about, regardless of who files a complaint.

Barefoot 02-20-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bhallam (Post 1363036)
Unfortunately now at least one neighbor has assumed that we called Community Standards (we didn't) and reported them and as a result is not speaking to us.

I wouldn't get stressed about someone not speaking to me - that's high school behavior.

ColdNoMore 02-20-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1363188)
I wouldn't get stressed about someone not speaking to me - that's high school behavior.

Yep. :D

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bbbbbb 02-20-2017 03:51 PM

Restrictions
 
Hello and responding to the restrictions or none at all.

Before we purchased here, we had friends who told us the rules, lots of rules, we liked that.

However, we have found that after we buy and move in, the rules may not be enforced.

Without going into the details, if nothing is done to curb this habit of some folks getting out of line,,,,,,,,,,,,, then it will become another South LA or Chicago. So it is up to us to be neat, tidy, to respect others and pull together to make things look good and have an appearance of pride in owner ship. We have personally contacted Management about a couple of items, they do not seem to care, got the money so buzz off. I won't bother you with the items.
Hopefully, I will not get backlash on this, only interested in keeping this great place looking good.
bbbbbb
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PghGal 02-20-2017 06:35 PM

We are looking to buy ( staying here this month ) we want to be in a tidy community with some privacy , any suggestions ? And what do the tiny ,white crosses mean ? A pet died ?

Bogie Shooter 02-20-2017 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PghGal (Post 1363360)
We are looking to buy ( staying here this month ) we want to be in a tidy community with some privacy , any suggestions ? And what do the tiny ,white crosses mean ? A pet died ?

The Villages is a tidy community....we run the untidy ones out of town.

Here is a thread on the little white crosses.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...rosses-218257/
No one is sure what they mean....................

OhioBuckeye 02-21-2017 08:52 AM

You know I somewhat agree. TV have to have some restrictions on in home businesses & what goes on in & around your home just so some properties don't get like some cities that have bad end of towns. Then on the other hand, we buy properties that, (wink, wink), are suppose to own & it's like you don't own them because of so many things you can't do, so who owns them? I do know TV have to look after our best interest because if a neighbor says something to this person they might get violent. Where do you draw the line?

Doug526 02-21-2017 09:30 AM

I am new to Villages. Live in Santo Domingo. Where do I find Deed Restrictions. I will be having new landscaping done and driveway designed next month. Don't want to start out not complying. Thank you, Doug

HiHoSteveO 02-21-2017 09:54 AM

Download link for deed restrictions
 
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Originally Posted by Doug526 (Post 1363549)
I am new to Villages. Live in Santo Domingo. Where do I find Deed Restrictions. I will be having new landscaping done and driveway designed next month. Don't want to start out not complying. Thank you, Doug

Village Community Development Districts

Challenger 02-21-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HiHoSteveO (Post 1363563)

Your realtor should have given you a copy before you signed the contract. Go ask him/her.


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