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ronnolder 09-24-2020 10:16 AM

I wonder if the powers that be read any restrictions when they decided to put Apartments in a Village area (non-commerical)

CFrance 09-24-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1837558)
And what about flying a flag of a political candidate on a flagpole in your yard?

By Florida law, TV has no authority to restrict what kind of flag is flown.

retiredguy123 09-24-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 1837590)
Flying a political flag on a flag pole has been upheld as being legal.

Look around, and you'll see a number of political signs, both for Biden and Trump, posted in yards. Those are in violation of deed restrictions in most, and possibly all, CDDs. For me, I'd like to see them removed. With the exception of a very small number of people, signs do not change peoples' minds whether on a golf cart, automobile or lawn.

Signs and flags are two different things under Florida law. Here is a link to the Florida flag law. Some flags are allowed even if they violate a deed restriction, but I don't think the law covers political flags.

Statutes & Constitution
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Online Sunshine


Can you cite a source to support your first sentence?

Joe V. 09-24-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mohawksin (Post 1837562)
Why is the name of the client relevant?

A person has a right to know who is accusing them. Lawyers do not go around sending letters to people without being hired to do so. Try the 6th Amendment.

retiredguy123 09-24-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1837775)
By Florida law, TV has no authority to restrict what kind of flag is flown.

Here is a link to the Florida flag law. I don't think it covers political flags. Can you cite a source for your statement?

Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
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Online Sunshine

PugMom 09-24-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelhunter (Post 1837592)
Either did I
Where can I find them?

i must be the odd man out, because reading the entire deed was my 1st project upon arrival. another poster here stated it depends on where you live, & that is true.
we were given a copy upon purchase, go thru your papers, i'm sure it's in there somewhere.( i think if you go to the actual Villages website, they post info re: deeds according to your location) Good Luck!

Bjeanj 09-24-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1837780)
A person has a right to know who is accusing them. Lawyers do not go around sending letters to people without being hired to do so. Try the 6th Amendment.

You DO know that the “accuser” is your CDD, NOT the person who reported it, right?

It sounds like you want it known who reported the violation, which is not the established process. It doesn’t really matter what you want, that’s what you signed on for when you moved here. If your yard is in violation of the deed restrictions for your property, it doesn’t matter who reported it, right?

OhioBuckeye 09-24-2020 10:47 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by golfer3232 (Post 1837253)
Has anyone else received a letter from a lawyer that a political sign is a window is a violation of the deed restrictions and if you have what have you done about it.

It is from a lawyer representing The Villages and yes I do have a political sign in my window, but so do many other homes. I guess my real question is have other people received the same type letter. I understand that technically it is a violation of the deed restrictions, but it is OK to run a political message on a flag pole, but not in a window?

Why would anyone care what’s put in your window. So to me it has to be a political party protesting it, why do I care or anybody care what kind of temporary sign I put in my window. Unless you want something. This to me sounds a little fishy!

retiredguy123 09-24-2020 10:55 AM

Some posters have said that a political sign does not change anyone's vote. I disagree. It's advertising. Advertising is an effective way to sell almost anything. And, companies, including political parties, spend billions of dollars on it all the time. If it doesn't work, why would they waste the money?

Ljaprea 09-24-2020 10:57 AM

If it’s from Dzuro and Associates, they are the Villages lawyers for south of 44 I believe. They are responsible for sending out Compliance letters based on complaints made anonymously to the community standards dept.

chrisinva 09-24-2020 11:11 AM

sometimes I put a political sign in the window for a few hours and then take it down....just to mess with people :a040:

MDLNB 09-24-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 1837590)
Flying a political flag on a flag pole has been upheld as being legal.

Look around, and you'll see a number of political signs, both for Biden and Trump, posted in yards. Those are in violation of deed restrictions in most, and possibly all, CDDs. For me, I'd like to see them removed. With the exception of a very small number of people, signs do not change peoples' minds whether on a golf cart, automobile or lawn.


I agree. On the other hand, those signs may trigger someone to ask questions as to why that person supports that candidate, and that could lead to enlightenment and a changed view. Just saying.

dtennent 09-24-2020 12:29 PM

Let's do a little math. The election is about 6 weeks away. If you do nothing, they won't do anything for another 30 days, then it will take them that long to get on any court calendar. By then we will be firmly into the post election blah blahs and you will have taken down your sign. So "they" won't be able to effectively block you from posting your window sign. Having said that, I am firmly in the camp of not posting my political biases because of the current very polarized atmosphere.

MercerLunatic 09-24-2020 04:15 PM

Read the restrictions.
the political flags under the stars and stripes are also illegal, as are the for sale signs in the yards. For sale signs are limited to 12x12 in size and are to be placed in the inside window

Olsenfiber 09-24-2020 04:55 PM

Is there an online link to view all the deed restrictions?

Dan9871 09-24-2020 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Olsenfiber (Post 1837918)
Is there an online link to view all the deed restrictions?

Village Community Development Districts

retiredguy123 09-24-2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Olsenfiber (Post 1837918)
Is there an online link to view all the deed restrictions?

Go to districtgov.org and click on "How do I?".

WalkerLoop 09-24-2020 05:44 PM

You should read your Deed Restriction or just contact Community Standards regarding your lot. My lot allows a single sign, no larger than 24" x 24" to be displayed in a window. It's content is not restricted.

Topspinmo 09-24-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisinva (Post 1837817)
sometimes I put a political sign in the window for a few hours and then take it down....just to mess with people :a040:

Party stooges are so gullible rant they!:faint:

CFrance 09-24-2020 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1837781)
Here is a link to the Florida flag law. I don't think it covers political flags. Can you cite a source for your statement?

Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
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Online Sunshine

According to the people at Deed compliance (whom I called regarding flags), TV has no authority over what kind of flag is flown. I too didn't think FL law covered political flags, but the powers that be have interpreted it differently at TV.

PennBF 09-24-2020 07:12 PM

Key Word
 
"I understand that technically it is a violation of the deed restrictions, ..."These are the Key Word's in the first input to this series of submissions. If you knew what you were doing was not allowed in Deed Restrictions, why did you do it. I have no sympathy for anyone who knowingly violates the rules and then argues for the right to try to sabotage and disregard the regulations that have been in effect for many years and probably long before they came.:ohdear:

Marshaw 09-25-2020 11:04 AM

Everything on a flag pole is sacred.🤗🤗

Challenger 09-26-2020 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1837306)
And evidently everyone is ok with that. Not so much with political signs.

Im not ok with it or any other violation of deed restrictions.!!!

Two Bills 09-26-2020 04:55 AM

Put a poster up for both candidates.

golfinglady 09-27-2020 10:34 AM

Selective Violations
 
It seems that the letters are only being sent to those with Biden signs in the window. It is a deed restriction that is being selectively managed. Florida's friendliest hometown!!



Quote:

Originally Posted by golfer3232 (Post 1837253)
Has anyone else received a letter from a lawyer that a political sign is a window is a violation of the deed restrictions and if you have what have you done about it.

It is from a lawyer representing The Villages and yes I do have a political sign in my window, but so do many other homes. I guess my real question is have other people received the same type letter. I understand that technically it is a violation of the deed restrictions, but it is OK to run a political message on a flag pole, but not in a window?


retiredguy123 09-27-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by golfinglady (Post 1839327)
It seems that the letters are only being sent to those with Biden signs in the window. It is a deed restriction that is being selectively managed. Florida's friendliest hometown!!

How do you know the letters are based on the sign content? It is a complaint driven enforcement system. If someone complains, the restriction is enforced. Otherwise, it is not enforced. That is the way the deed restriction enforcement system is designed.

IndianaJones 10-18-2020 11:53 AM

Deed Restrictions
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1837312)
Very interesting.

and just like everyone else around here we did not read the deed restrictions.

Here's where you can find them: VCDD Deed Compliance - Sumter County
They're all pretty much the same, but if you go back a few pages on the website, you can find a map where you can pinpoint the location of your home, and the correct district and neighborhood.
Most people quote Article 2. 15, which states, "No sign of any kind shall be displayed to public view on a Homesite or any dedicated or reserved area without the prior written consent of the Developer, except customary name and address signs and one sign advertising a property for sale or rent which shall be no larger than twelve (12) inches wide and twelve (12) inches high and shall be located wholly within the Home and only visible through a window of the Home. Lawn ornaments are prohibited, except for seasons displays not exceeding a thirty (30) day duration." Just FYI.


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