Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185932)

Difficult to play soccer inside unless TV Land builds an indoor professional-sized field house with A/C ........I am sure that ALL TV Land residents would cheerfully OK having their activities fee TRIPLED to build that.
........Raise the taxes, build that.......and "they WILL come".

Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 2185877)

In this world of plenty - it is filled with people looking to prove they've made better decisions than you - and they want to educate you on how not to make the same mistake you've made again - even if it isn't a mistake. Makes them feel smarter about their decisions - and smarter about themselves.

Example. Due to my "weird career" - I've lived in 37 different homes. Various places. Urban. Suburban. Flat. Wooded. Hot. Cold. Reality - I've found a way to enjoy every place I've lived - adapt to what is best about it. It's lots about attitude.

Having said that - I continue to hear the challenges - both outside The Villages and inside.

My take:
1) There is not place I'd rather be. I wake up every morning thanking God we found this place by accident.

2) When somebody shares the "sex stories" - I simply share that I love that reputation - even though it is not true - because it does reinforce we are active positive people living hear. I then share "isn't that the most brilliant marketing gimmick by the Developer" - which reinforces the best place to live for people who are looking for an active life?

3) When I hear the complaints about The Developer, I sometimes even agree. In my opinion, they have demonstrated different values than prior generations. However, even with the annoyances of some of their decisions (closing Katie Belle's was STUPID - in my opinion) - there is still no place I'd rather be. I've checked many.

4) When I hear how big it has gotten - to me it is similar to living in a suburb of a city and complaining the surrounding city is getting too big. Frankly, our little section of The Villages feels about the same as it did years ago - with a little more annoying traffic a few times a day on the major roads. I'm just hoping we get big enough so that COSTCO builds a store closer.

5) Will the honeymoon wear off? Depends on your definition. After a while, we settled in more. We go to the Squares less often. We go to the Country Clubs less often. They were more "exciting" when we first moved here - and we still enjoy them. But, we found that sometimes staying home and watching a Netflix movie together is more relaxing. Analogy: when I first met the woman who became my wife, like many, the "affection" part of the relationship was "much more active" than now. New. Exciting. And fell in love. The love hasn't diminished because the more "exciting" aspects became less frequent - we just settled into our comfort zones together. After the honeymoon doesn't have to mean bad - success for me is blending into a comfort zone together.

Summary. Don't worry about defending your decision. Focus on what you like - why it was the best decision for you. Remember, it is not in other people's interest to prove to you how smart you are - it is in their personal interest to prove to themselves that they are smarter than you.

Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185925)

It CAN threaten someone's life if they are playing softball or tennis. I, personally, saw a man fall face down in the infield in a softball game from the HEAT and humidity and just BEING in the SUN. helped drag him into the shade while the ambulance was called. Same thing at a tennis match. SPLAT he hit the asphalt and was bleeding from the face.
.....They were engaged in an outdoor COMPETETIVE activity in the summer heat. That is WAY, WAY, different than driving to Publix with the A/C on. Maybe someday the outdoor activities players will have INDIVIDUAL A/C, but it is NOT yet developed.

Originally Posted by geobar (Post 2185723)

Sorry to inform you that "The Villages" does have a bad reputation going back 20 or more years.
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Seems when doing your homework you were using the wrong books or media.
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Do you read the "Daily (we will print only what we want you to know) Sun"? Never anything negative is published about TV as it's printed to be another sales tool.
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In time you will learn many negatives if happen to talk to people who have lived there for many years.
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If you live South of CR-44 that perhaps was your first mistake as you do not have decent Shopping and many Restaurants. You need to drive north. Too bad the new Morse generation is only concerned about making even more money than they need.
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Presently they are more concerned with building "Charter Schools" (which happens to be good for students) and low-cost housing so people will work in The Villages and can send their children to the Charter Schools. This is not a bad idea for their well-being if you think about this as it's their solution to survive. To line their pockets they need workers to survive building homes in TV and if they ever decide to build shopping and restaurants for your convenience.
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How many "Publix" food stores are open South of CR-44 in The Villages? Just how many people live on the south side? I will now call it the "South Side" from now on in my comments. Believe it or not, Recently I messaged my last Village salesperson for an answer. No reply at all seems this as well also on the do not tell list.
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When we built in "Amelia" in 2009 we were told by the cloned salespeople they would never build South of CR-466A. Then in 2018, we moved to "Pine Hills" and again were told that the Morses have no desire to build South of CR-44. Little did we know they had purchased these properties many years before by using other companies they own.
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Sorry to make your day.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185932)

Difficult to play soccer inside unless TV Land builds an indoor professional-sized field house with A/C ........I am sure that ALL TV Land residents would cheerfully OK having their activities fee TRIPLED to build that.
........Raise the taxes, build that.......and "they WILL come".

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185932)

Difficult to play soccer inside unless TV Land builds an indoor professional-sized field house with A/C ........I am sure that ALL TV Land residents would cheerfully OK having their activities fee TRIPLED to build that.
........Raise the taxes, build that.......and "they WILL come".

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2185936)

Soccer probably isn’t even in the top 20 activities that Villagers participate in. Yet again you’re posting just for the sake of posting.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2185945)

I wasn't referring to soccer indoors. That is just silly. Activities that require indoor spaces already in place in the rec centers is what I meant. There are lost of stuff to do.

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2185936)

Soccer probably isn’t even in the top 20 activities that Villagers participate in. Yet again you’re posting just for the sake of posting.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185954)

I wish that what I say was NOT true.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2185960)

:agree:

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2185961)

For the most part, your wish has been granted. You're just pontificating now to get a rise out of people.

Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2185962)

What about bungee jumping? :)

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185970)

OK if you promise NOT to mess with my harness.

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2185961)

For the most part, your wish has been granted. You're just pontificating now to get a rise out of people.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185949)

I play soccer and for ME that makes soccer among the TOP THREE sports in TV Land. You MIGHT be surprised how many people (men and women) play. And how SKILLED they are !!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185967)

I am trying my best to be informative. The problem is that MY point of view and questioning of status quo items are NOT what the average resident and the Villages Chamber of Commerce wants to hear. (if there is a Chamber here?)

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185925)

It CAN threaten someone's life if they are playing softball or tennis. I, personally, saw a man fall face down in the infield in a softball game from the HEAT and humidity and just BEING in the SUN. helped drag him into the shade while the ambulance was called. Same thing at a tennis match. SPLAT he hit the asphalt and was bleeding from the face.
........They were engaged in an outdoor COMPETETIVE activity in the summer heat. That is WAY, WAY, different than driving to Publix with the A/C on. Maybe someday the outdoor activities players will have INDIVIDUAL A/C, but it is NOT yet developed.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185930)

A "telling it like it IS" post.

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2185985)

You’re not trying to be informative. You’re trying to cram your views down everyone’s throat by your incessant posting. There is no reason to reply to almost every post in a thread to make your point. It just comes across as you believing that your opinion matters more than everyone else’s. You have 30 posts in this thread, twice as many as anyone else. You either feel that you’re more important or you’re not very good at getting your point across.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185941)

Long live - Katie Belles.......so many good times.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2185946)

Just thought of a fantastic indoor sport that has A/C......bowling. Actually, I don't know how true this is but I have heard there are more bowlers in The Villages than there are golfers. Anyone know for sure about this?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185954)

That IS EXACTLY what I have been saying. Swimming is the only sport that you can do outside for about 8 hours (from 10 AM to 6 PM). It is SEVERELY limiting. And you have to wear a white long-sleeve pullover in the water and a hat to prevent SKIN CANCER. And put sunblock on the backs of your hands and on your neck. And the long-term global warming forecast by 99% of the scientists is for increased HEAT around the globe for the next 30 years.
.........Maybe if today's US citizens would start buying more E-vehicles and E-carts and bikes, then MAYBE, JUST MAYBE our children and grandchildren can SAFELY move BACK to Florida and enjoy Fl. as people like me did in the 1970s before Global Warming.
.........My problem is that MY megaphone isn't big enough to overcome the epidemic of complacency. I wish that what I say was NOT true. I wish that everything REALLY was honey and PARADISE in central Florida.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185959)

Yes true. BUT, those are ACTIVITIES NOT outdoor competitive SPORTS where you push yourself to the limit under the sun and humidity. Sure I have done yoga and book reviews and movie reviews indoors in the A/C. The book club does NOT put on gloves and go 3 rounds in a ring to argue about the value of a certain book.
.........Activities and competitive KICK-ASS sports are 2 different things!
.........Do bowlers EVEN break a sweat? How about the billiards players? And the poetry club? Do they run a mile race and then sit down and read poetry in the A/C.........................I don't think so.
..........Maybe the residents that do the ACTIVITY of beating up a large rubber ball with a stick DO break out into a little sweat. But, who are they competing with? Yes.....themselves........but that is NOT COMPETITIVE pushing.

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2185961)

For the most part, your wish has been granted. You're just pontificating now to get a rise out of people.

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2185982)

Pretty sure he’s a reincarnation of ColdNoMore.

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2185985)

You’re not trying to be informative. You’re trying to cram your views down everyone’s throat by your incessant posting. There is no reason to reply to almost every post in a thread to make your point. It just comes across as you believing that your opinion matters more than everyone else’s. You have 30 posts in this thread, twice as many as anyone else. You either feel that you’re more important or you’re not very good at getting your point across.

Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2186027)

My post sure got hijacked, didn’t it.

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2185893)

"It turned out that his beef was with seniors removing themselves from their jhome communities where they still had a viable and important role to 'isolate' themselves in senior communities, and The Villages was the best one to use as an example because of its size and popularity."

Interesting! We encountered kind of the same mindset among some Minnesotans when we (and a whole lot of others) decided to abandon L'etoile du nord for the land of sun and sand. Near as I could make out it really had nothing to do with our "viable and important role" in our home communities, but really more about what we were taking with us. Of course there were/are various reasons for not moving, but in a nutshell the ones who COULD afford to move, often did, and that meant taking our money, toys, spending power and various accounts with us.

Minnesota has been hemorrhaging money for some years now as the more affluent seniors as well as younger folks still working but able to move, have been fleeing the state like deranged lemmings. The population numbers in Minnesota overall have remained pretty stable, but as the people with the money leave they're being replaced by folks who more often than not see a "career" as slurping at the public trough. A third-grader can do that kind of arithmetic.

Guilt trip about shirking our responsibilities? Read "tax base". THAT is the real reason.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185959)

Yes true. BUT, those are ACTIVITIES NOT outdoor competitive SPORTS where you push yourself to the limit under the sun and humidity. Sure I have done yoga and book reviews and movie reviews indoors in the A/C. The book club does NOT put on gloves and go 3 rounds in a ring to argue about the value of a certain book.
.........Activities and competitive KICK-ASS sports are 2 different things!
.........Do bowlers EVEN break a sweat? How about the billiards players? And the poetry club? Do they run a mile race and then sit down and read poetry in the A/C.........................I don't think so.
..........Maybe the residents that do the ACTIVITY of beating up a large rubber ball with a stick DO break out into a little sweat. But, who are they competing with? Yes.....themselves........but that is NOT COMPETITIVE pushing.

Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2186027)

My post sure got hijacked, didn’t it.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2185999)

Probably wouldn't have happened if they were playing golf...

Originally Posted by Quixote (Post 2186034)

A clear, objective, realistic view—thank you—but not according to Blechman who likely knew that it would not sell books....

In the heyday of the carrying-on of those touting the 'STD school of negativity,' counts of STDs are maintained by county, not by neighborhoods, villages, or The Villages. But in one of those year the naysyers were carrying on about the count of one STD having doubled, or increased 100%. It turned out that in actual numbers, in one y ear there had been two cases, while the following year there were four! And to think there are actually people who buy into this type of interpretation....

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2185934)

Every animal population has a "holding capacity", which depends on available food, range, and infrastructure in humans' case. At some point, for humans, the "quality of life" starts dropping. I am just hypothesizing that both the US and The Villages MAY (?) have crossed that threshold.