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Altavia 05-05-2024 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2328583)
Can you give me an opinion on this part of the video, at 58:17 someone asked about a tunnel under 470 at Dabney to the new area south of 470. The area is owned by the Villages and Don said it will be commercial, most likely. The way Don phrased it I think he would bet there will be a tunnel. But listening to it a few times, he may have meant he'd take the side of that bet that they wouldn't do it.

By "easy money" I assume he meant they'd make money by Villagers having golf cart access to new stores.

What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFXi9oBVf0

Highly likely a tunnel will be under 470 in Lake County to connect to whatever they build on the other side, as they did in Sumter County.

Earlier plans talked about re-aligning 470 to smooth out the dog legs so it's possible that road will be relocated as they did replacing 470 with Central Parkway.

https://cdn.lakecountyfl.gov/media/zjqfy5nr/cr-470.pdf

frayedends 05-05-2024 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2328614)
Highly likely a tunnel will be under 470 in Lake County to connect to whatever they build on the other side, as they did in Sumter County.

That’s great. We won’t be as isolated as everyone says. I was looking at that area and thinking if they are making 470 into 4 lanes it will be easy to add a tunnel under. Plus that rectangular spot at the end of Chandler on 470 that looks like a potential strip mall or gas station already has a MMP to it.

Altavia 05-05-2024 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2328621)
That’s great. We won’t be as isolated as everyone says. I was looking at that area and thinking if they are making 470 into 4 lanes it will be easy to add a tunnel under. Plus that rectangular spot at the end of Chandler on 470 that looks like a potential strip mall or gas station already has a MMP to it.

The question is what and when.

Magnolia Place is still waiting for A CVS.

thelegges 05-05-2024 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2328622)
The question is what and when.

Magnolia Place is still waiting for A CVS.

Or maybe CVS is waiting for a reason

Shipping up to Boston 05-05-2024 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 2328625)
Or maybe CVS is waiting for a reason

They’re having a bad week....


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Shipping up to Boston 05-05-2024 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2328643)
They’re having a bad week....


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Altavia 05-06-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2328621)
That’s great. We won’t be as isolated as everyone says. I was looking at that area and thinking if they are making 470 into 4 lanes it will be easy to add a tunnel under. Plus that rectangular spot at the end of Chandler on 470 that looks like a potential strip mall or gas station already has a MMP to it.

I would not be surprised if the 470 interchange is relocated just south of the wastewater treatment facility.

The current site north east corner is blocked in by homes. The land south is wide open Villages property.

Essentially making 470 a straight shot to Okahumpka.

The existing interchange could continue to be used during construction.

Probably not but maybe something like this (food for thought)

Normal 05-06-2024 11:49 AM

Magnolia
 
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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2328622)
The question is what and when.

Magnolia Place is still waiting for A CVS.

Magnolia is still waiting for the golf cart crossing along Warm Springs over the turnpike. The dead end path still sits with a barricade.

Altavia 05-06-2024 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2328853)
Magnolia is still waiting for the golf cart crossing along Warm Springs over the turnpike. The dead end path still sits with a barricade.

Oh, you mean at the south bridge that will be replaced during Turnpike Expansion?

A bridge that will be required to have pedestrian access?

As Don Wiley says, the Villages does not build dead end streets.


We'll see...

Altavia 05-06-2024 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 2328625)
Or maybe CVS is waiting for a reason

Surveyors, utility marking and portapotties sprouted on the site today.

Looks like site prep is starting now.

MrChip72 05-06-2024 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2328853)
Magnolia is still waiting for the golf cart crossing along Warm Springs over the turnpike. The dead end path still sits with a barricade.

There's a bunch of other ways to get to Magnolia from every direction. That path won't be open for at least 15 years or possibly never depending on what they eventually build but either way it won't be started for another 6 years at least. If the developer is responsible then it might take 10 years to do the bridge.

Everyone saw how the Waterlily bridge which was prefab offsite took longer to complete than the San Francisco Golden Gate bridge (4.5 years) from start to finish which was way over 100x longer than Waterlily.

Marathon Man 05-07-2024 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2328853)
Magnolia is still waiting for the golf cart crossing along Warm Springs over the turnpike. The dead end path still sits with a barricade.

I don't know anyone who is waiting for that. We use the Waterlily bridge. Easy peasy.

Shipping up to Boston 05-07-2024 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2328857)
Oh, you mean at the south bridge that will be replaced during Turnpike Expansion?

A bridge that will be required to have pedestrian access?

As Don Wiley says, the Villages does not build dead end streets.


We'll see...

I guess ‘dead end’ is subjective. If you live on the end of a cul de sac, that would be a dead end. Or if your at the end of a street that backs up to a swamp, that’s probably a dead end as well. If the point is connectivity, the developer always seems to (eventually) make everyone whole.

Mass288 05-07-2024 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mwpoet (Post 2327364)
I have lived all over the villages and I would not do the south as there is so little there and so much driving. I did 300 miles a week then moved north of 466A. If you are young you can wait for the amenities. I love having 4 pools, shopping, and many golf courses nearby in Duval!

Ok if no one else will....I'll call it. 300 miles a week. B.S.

LeRoySmith 05-07-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mass288 (Post 2329162)
Ok if no one else will....I'll call it. 300 miles a week. B.S.

50 miles a day would be a lot of cart time. Not impossible but it makes my butt hurt thinking about it.


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