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charlieo1126@gmail.com 02-15-2021 12:13 PM

Yes something is going on some say progress ( that’s me and I’ve been here for 20 years all over the villages) and others see the sky is falling, the sky is falling , progress or chicken little ?? At 82 I’ll always take progress

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-15-2021 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1902528)
Their "Katie Belles" that was losing money every month. They couldn't make money on air conditioning, ice water, and free entertainment. Like any business, they had to stop the bleeding. A good thing was lost as a result of many self-indulgent individuals who thought they had the right to occupy a business and not support it through their patronage.

It was a business that failed. Now the owners want to replace it with apartments and add additional apartments to other unused 2nd story properties, all totaled perhaps 20-25 apartments. Hardly a crowd of hundreds. Parking won't be an issue, KB needed over 180 spaces, unless the apartment dwellers each have 8 cars, things should be OK in this department.

As I mentioned previously, I'm more concerned about accommodation for golf carts owned by these apartment residents.

Will there be a long secure golf cart garage for them? Somewhere close enough to the back entry of the stairs, so they can bring groceries inside? If there is, that means it would also be a building in close proximity to public access from the parking lots. This would need to be addressed, because apartments or not, it is still a place where the public is welcome, and those parking spaces are needed for all visitors.

I wouldn't have any problem with apartment residents in the squares at all, otherwise. Bedrooms can be built to face the parking lot, so live music would be no bother to them at all.

laboutj 02-15-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1902580)
As I mentioned previously, I'm more concerned about accommodation for golf carts owned by these apartment residents.

Will there be a long secure golf cart garage for them? Somewhere close enough to the back entry of the stairs, so they can bring groceries inside? If there is, that means it would also be a building in close proximity to public access from the parking lots. This would need to be addressed, because apartments or not, it is still a place where the public is welcome, and those parking spaces are needed for all visitors.

I wouldn't have any problem with apartment residents in the squares at all, otherwise. Bedrooms can be built to face the parking lot, so live music would be no bother to them at all.

Is there parking for golf carts at the apartments at Brownwood? Not being sarcastic, just wondering. I haven't driven up close.

Dan9871 02-15-2021 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by laboutj (Post 1902591)
Is there parking for golf carts at the apartments at Brownwood? Not being sarcastic, just wondering. I haven't driven up close.

Yes, but it is an extra add-on to the lease.

Bogie Shooter 02-15-2021 01:32 PM

Many Villagers worry too much, about things they cannot control........

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-15-2021 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by laboutj (Post 1902591)
Is there parking for golf carts at the apartments at Brownwood? Not being sarcastic, just wondering. I haven't driven up close.

I don't know, and it isn't relevant. The apartments at Brownwood were built from the ground up, and aren't "in" the actual town square.

The apartment at Spanish Springs would be on top of existing commercial property in the middle of the town square, with public parking in the back of the buildings. There is no place to build a new parking lot just for the apartments, so that means spaces that were used by employees of the businesses and customers of those businesses, will need to find someplace else to park.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-15-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1902608)
Many Villagers worry too much, about things they cannot control........

This is true. What is also true, is that residents have a say in the matter, which is why they have public meetings and hearings and discussions. Anyone who wants to contribute to the discussion should be ENcouraged to do so, not DIScouraged by dismissal of their opinion.

Topspinmo 02-15-2021 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramone (Post 1902284)
The Lady Lake Commissioners will discuss on Wed, Feb 17th, 6 pm, at the Town of Lady Lake Town Hall. The readings were tabled from Nov and Jan meetings. Those with concerns about this added population to the city center should contact the Lady Lake Commissioners and town hall and/or attend the meeting and speak up. Hundreds more people added to city center may cause overcrowding, more need for EMT's and police, and for those with PTSD more problems or outburst. Also what happens when those apartment tenants start complaining about the bands playing, do we stop the music?
Developer just give us back our Katie Belles!

IMO I don’t have problems with developers redoing building they own and already built. If they are empty it’s none of my business what developers Does with it.

IMO what I do have problem with when developers tear down buildings and put 100s of apartments in district they sold the amenities to district and the area was already built out years ago. Now developers are over crowding an over crowded area. IMO fighting the wrong battle around square.

IMO the developers can do what they want in the new built areas, but should be rained In when they try to over develop districts they long ago sold amenities to districts 1 through 13 And built out residentially.

Notice I said MY OPINION.:boxing2:

JoMar 02-15-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1902667)
IMO I don’t have problems with developers redoing building they own and already built. If they are empty it’s none of my business what developers Does with it.

IMO what I do have problem with when developers tear down buildings and put 100s of apartments in district they sold the amenities to district and the area was already built out years ago. Now developers are over crowding an over crowded area. IMO fighting the wrong battle around square.

IMO the developers can do what they want in the new built areas, but should be rained In when they try to over develop districts they long ago sold amenities to districts 1 through 13 And built out residentially.

Notice I said MY OPINION.:boxing2:

I really don't have any dog in this fight but I agree that the Developer owns the buildings and can do with them what he wants. The golf cart and parking issues are so overblown...I have never had a problem parking in Spanish Springs with either the car or cart....I suspect the complaint is the closeness to destination that most object to. The more population you can bring downtown the more businesses will benefit and if you notice, none of them have objected to what the Developer is planning. The more business sees benefit, the more the residents will benefit. While I also believe the other planned apartments will also be beneficial to the community, because of its location I will let the residents choose their fate on that one.

Joe V. 02-15-2021 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1902608)
Many Villagers worry too much, about things they cannot control........

Or want to control themselves.

Mleeja 02-15-2021 09:40 PM

I am continually amazed by posters blaming “the developer” for the failure of Katie Belle’s. The original and remodeled versions failed because people did not support it.

As far as for the apartments, I think they will appeal to a certain clientele. They are saying 45 apartments in total. That would be less than 100 additional folks at the square IF they came out every night. Apartments will require some reconfiguration of the buildings, but when complete will be unnoticed by the general public visiting the square.

tophcfa 02-15-2021 10:24 PM

Focus on the much bigger problem, it’s the multi story rental apartment complex monstrosity planned to go where the Hacienda Hills Club House, pool and tennis courts used to exist. The apartments planned for Spanish Springs pale in comparison and will hardly be noticeable.

John41 02-15-2021 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1902735)
I am continually amazed by posters blaming “the developer” for the failure of Katie Belle’s. The original and remodeled versions failed because people did not support it.

As far as for the apartments, I think they will appeal to a certain clientele. They are saying 45 apartments in total. That would be less than 100 additional folks at the square IF they came out every night. Apartments will require some reconfiguration of the buildings, but when complete will be unnoticed by the general public visiting the square.

They said building would stop at RT 44 too.

graciegirl 02-15-2021 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramone (Post 1902284)
The Lady Lake Commissioners will discuss on Wed, Feb 17th, 6 pm, at the Town of Lady Lake Town Hall. The readings were tabled from Nov and Jan meetings. Those with concerns about this added population to the city center should contact the Lady Lake Commissioners and town hall and/or attend the meeting and speak up. Hundreds more people added to city center may cause overcrowding, more need for EMT's and police, and for those with PTSD more problems or outburst. Also what happens when those apartment tenants start complaining about the bands playing, do we stop the music?
Developer just give us back our Katie Belles!


I do not miss Katie Belle's or the Buffalo and I think the apartments will be no different than the homes abutting Lake Sumter Landing Market Square, as far as the music goes. Some folks are always trying to find a fly in the ointment.

Topspinmo 02-15-2021 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1902748)
Focus on the much bigger problem, it’s the multi story rental apartment complex monstrosity planned to go where the Hacienda Hills Club House, pool and tennis courts used to exist. The apartments planned for Spanish Springs pale in comparison and will hardly be noticeable.

Bingo :clap2 that the battle not SS building’s.


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