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Altavia 12-02-2021 04:12 PM

Is there a way to ignore/hide threads?

rustyp 12-02-2021 04:15 PM

Don't click on the bait will work.

DAVES 12-02-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by E Cascade (Post 2035837)
I have learned that in some districts that people who want to hide behind being anonymous can make complaints without the home owner ever knowing who is doing this. The District does not help, but rather elevates the problem. In our village we have someone who thinks they should be the designated mischief maker and our District board will not disclose who is being the cause of making a mountain out of a mole hill. If someone has a problem the District ought to require that another owner approach the neighbor with their personal concern before causing a major problem for all. There are enough power-over people/institutions/etc making life less tolerable and we ought to put out effort here to diminish this kind of behavior. I know of one happening in our village in which a spouse was concerned that the other spouse would have a heart attack over whatever the problem was. Rather than being a help, the trouble maker was being a problem in and of herself. Any suggestions, opinions would be appreciated. FL has some strict laws about stalking that all need to be aware of.

This is an issue everywhere that people live together. Seriously but teasing a little.
I was concerned about neighbors turning each other in for nonsense because someone I knew in another state but living in a similar planed community had a neighbor launch a complaint about a tree that had been there for years. I heard only one side of the story which is normal in this type of issue. He was sued by the architectural committee.
The case went on and on. Last I heard he had spent 20,000 in legal fees. Before it was resolved he passed away. I believe his daughter inherited the property and sold it.
Who she sold it to? They had plenty of money. I doubt she had an concern for the complaining neighbor when she sold the property.

When exploring places to go when I stopped working I became aware of an island for sale off North Carolina. It was several acres a nice looking house in the pictures and had a small herd of wild horses. I could, I would set up my own KINGDOM. Somehow I think my wife would murder the king in his sleep or perhaps during a hurricane.

Far as anonymously turning in neighbors, I've never had anyone turn me in for anything.
Like most of us I am perfect in my own mind. However, it would not take much to discover who turned you in.

DAVES 12-02-2021 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2035939)
Were the complaints justified? If so then it really doesn't matter who did the complaining. If people are anonymously making false complaints then that comes under the heading of harassment and is an altogether different kettle of fish.

To be honest I really don't mind that people do this, as long as the complaints are legitimate. We moved here in large part BECAUSE of the regulations, not in spite of them. The homogeneity of the neighborhoods is attractive. I try to make sure we abide by those regulations but I wouldn't mind being reminded if it turned out that I was unknowingly violating one.

I placed a previous post that I hope explains my view on the subject.

I think what people object to is anonymous complaints. Under our legal system you have the right to face your accuser.

Years ago in the villages we had a neighbor hire a landscaper. The landscaper put in cement work that was beyond Villages rules. It was too close to the property line and blocking mowers. I spoke to him. He agreed and asked the landscaper to move it.
The landscaper opened a foul mouth to me. Leaving out the foul words he said he is the expert. I told him perhaps he is right I will call the Villages. They sent a guy that like the story of Solomon handled is very well. Seems the landscaper did not file a required plan. He is wrong and they told my neighbor not to pay him till it is corrected. I took pictures in case he damaged my property. Fortunately he did not and it was corrected.
All were happy except perhaps the hired claimed landscaper. Many of the contractors are little more than ten dollars worth of business cards.

villagetinker 12-02-2021 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 2036044)
Is there a way to ignore/hide threads?

Yes, under user profile, there is an IGNORE list, simply add this offender to your list, I have several on mine, will probably be adding another shortly.

Mortal1 12-02-2021 05:14 PM

In the end this is just a person who was caught doing something they shouldn't be...and are upset that they were caught. My guess would be that they want to know who ratted them out so they can harass this person. It has nothing to do about what they say and all to do about obeying rules.

dewilson58 12-02-2021 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 2036044)
Is there a way to ignore/hide threads?

Yes, don't open them. :ohdear:

Garywt 12-02-2021 08:06 PM

Probably a mistake replying to this but…. We were gone for 6 months over the summer and although my landscaper was supposed to weed the flower beds, he did not or not well. About a month and a half before my return I got the call that someone turned us in. Part of me says there is a person or persons that drive the entire Villages street by street and turn people in. They were either turned in once themselves or have decided the are all things Villages enforcers. On the other hand it was good for me to know my landscaper was not doing his job. I had the weeds improved and finished the job when I was down there.

Maybe the rule could be changed to 2 complaints need to be made if the first is anonymous.

Altavia 12-02-2021 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2036055)
Yes, under user profile, there is an IGNORE list, simply add this offender to your list, I have several on mine, will probably be adding another shortly.

Thanks but that doesn't prevent them showing up on the Thread list.

Djean1981 12-02-2021 08:59 PM

It doesn't matter who files a VALID complaint. Just live by the deed restrictions you agreed to... The Villages is composed of very compact houses, micro yards, and very narrow roads. The restrictions we ALL agreed to are to keep the neighborhoods nice for everyone. Just driving around a lot of the local non-village areas with no restrictions, makes me appreciate our more orderly environment.

Velvet 12-02-2021 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by E Cascade (Post 2035837)
I have learned that in some districts that people who want to hide behind being anonymous can make complaints without the home owner ever knowing who is doing this. The District does not help, but rather elevates the problem. In our village we have someone who thinks they should be the designated mischief maker and our District board will not disclose who is being the cause of making a mountain out of a mole hill. If someone has a problem the District ought to require that another owner approach the neighbor with their personal concern before causing a major problem for all. There are enough power-over people/institutions/etc making life less tolerable and we ought to put out effort here to diminish this kind of behavior. I know of one happening in our village in which a spouse was concerned that the other spouse would have a heart attack over whatever the problem was. Rather than being a help, the trouble maker was being a problem in and of herself. Any suggestions, opinions would be appreciated. FL has some strict laws about stalking that all need to be aware of.

No, I don’t think so. We have a complaint driven compliance type area as it would be too expensive to pay for enforcement officers… but that is the alternative.

Djean1981 12-03-2021 07:22 AM

Yep .

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-03-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2036054)
I placed a previous post that I hope explains my view on the subject.

I think what people object to is anonymous complaints. Under our legal system you have the right to face your accuser.

Yes, you have the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay, the right to an impartial jury, and the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you.

You have these rights when you are brought up in criminal charges in a court of law.

These rights don't extend to rule violations in a deed-restricted community.

ThirdOfFive 12-03-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2036234)
Yes, you have the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay, the right to an impartial jury, and the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you.

You have these rights when you are brought up in criminal charges in a court of law.

These rights don't extend to rule violations in a deed-restricted community.

Bingo.

Kenswing 12-03-2021 03:21 PM

Another trolling thread where the OP never returns to substantiate their claims.


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