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rubicon 06-02-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 685666)
I went to Disney the first day they opened in Oct. 1971. General admission without any "Adventure Book A - E" ride tickets was only $3.75. With the ride tickets a little more. When Epcot opened in 1982, tickets were $15 to either park. By then they had stopped the A - E tickets.

Had taken my family (2 adults 2 kids) to Disneyworld At the time they announced the building of epcot.

Traveling by plane (Eastern) staying six nights seven days at the Contemporary cost us a total of $1,000 plus food odds and ends.

We met a woman on the tram when we first arrived who sudied how to work the park so that you were always first in line. she was astoundingly accurate

buggyone 06-02-2013 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=bkcunningham1;685667]When Disney World first opened (and for many years thereafter), guests purchased a book of ride tickets (similar to what you would get at a carnival or fair). The book consisted of A through E tickets, with the E tickets being the best rides.

Eleven Adventure Ticket Book: Adult $5.75, Junior $5.25, Children $4.75
(included transportation, admission to MK and eleven adventures)
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In 1972, I had my first job after college at the VA Hospital in Gainesville. Magnificent salary of $7,319 per year or equates to $3.51 per hour. I went to Disney World that year a couple of times with a couple of different girls. The $5.75 plus parking (and gas from Gainesville to Orlando and back) added up to quite a bit from that $3.51 per hour.

Compute those figures to a decent salary for a family now and it probably is in the same ratio ballpark.

Still, $99 for a single day of amusement park is a heck of a lot of money!!

John_W 06-02-2013 06:01 PM

Since I grew up in St. Petersburg back in the 1960's we went to Busch Gardens in Tampa all the time. Why not, it was Free. They actually had a factory tour of the bottling plant and all adult visitors were allowed 3 free draft beers.

In 1968 -1969 I was enrolled at St. Petersburg JC studying Hotel Restaurant Management. In the fall of '69 I came to class one day and there was all these people in the hallway wearing suits. Nobody wears a suit in Florida, so I asked what was going on? Disney World was interviewing for positions at the new theme park.


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Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-02-2013 06:21 PM

[quote=buggyone;685933]
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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 685667)
When Disney World first opened (and for many years thereafter), guests purchased a book of ride tickets (similar to what you would get at a carnival or fair). The book consisted of A through E tickets, with the E tickets being the best rides.

Eleven Adventure Ticket Book: Adult $5.75, Junior $5.25, Children $4.75
(included transportation, admission to MK and eleven adventures)
__________________

In 1972, I had my first job after college at the VA Hospital in Gainesville. Magnificent salary of $7,319 per year or equates to $3.51 per hour. I went to Disney World that year a couple of times with a couple of different girls. The $5.75 plus parking (and gas from Gainesville to Orlando and back) added up to quite a bit from that $3.51 per hour.

Compute those figures to a decent salary for a family now and it probably is in the same ratio ballpark.

Still, $99 for a single day of amusement park is a heck of a lot of money!!

Again, I have to question how many people are actually paying that full price. I really think that it's a matter of setting the prices high enough to allow for the multitude of discounts and freebies.

njbchbum 06-02-2013 06:33 PM

[quote=Dr Winston O Boogie jr;685979]
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 685933)

Again, I have to question how many people are actually paying that full price. I really think that it's a matter of setting the prices high enough to allow for the multitude of discounts and freebies.

one of the biggest freebies - free magic express bus from airport for those who fly and stay on property - no rental car expense and wdw has you captive! another - free dining plan when purchasing a pkg with room/tix. only offered on less popular visitation dates - and offer means reserving a budget resort - but you are on property!

Ragman 06-02-2013 06:45 PM

Food prices are absurd but it's no different than a sporting event. We went to a Rays game and a 12 ounce beer is $10.00. If I recall correctly, hot dogs were
$8.00.

Some food prices are high but much of it is affordable.

Sushi combo at Japan is about $ 1 or more than Publix.

Seasons at Epcot has fresh (veggies are raised on site) meals priced around $ 10.

Flame Tree BBQ and Yak And Yeti at AK are reasonable. Large portions. Adult couples split the entree.

Most counter service items can be split and combos can be reduced to sandwich only. Ice water is free at counter service outlets with or without purchase.

Character dining is IMO a ripoff, but if you're one a once a generation trip with kids or grand-kids, go for it.

Liquor is expensive; no Villages 241 happy hour there.

Disney is a resort and priced accordingly. You can go cheaply by cutting corners or have the lavish vacation of your life, but not both.

We have seasonal weekday passes and love going anytime we would want to go (wouldn't be caught dead there at busy seasons) and since everyday is Saturday at the Villages the weekends don't matter.

I'm just glad there is a Walt Disney World to entertain the world.

:a040:

TexaninVA 06-02-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 685629)
Yesterday, Disney followed Universal's recent price increase and is now the most expensive park in Florida. At $95.00 plus tax, it will now cost a family of four (over 10 years old) over $400.00 just to get into the Park. Add food to that cost and you have a very expensive outing for sure. My last trip to Disney cost three of us nearly $300.00, stood in lines for hours and hours and was only able to ride four rides and watch the parade. The entry fee to Disney has doubles since 2000. This price increases concerns me because I believe there are many average families with children who might never have the funds to attend either of the parks.

Wow .. .that's an eye opener. Has been a while since we've been there and you're right, a lot of money. But, OTOH, market seems to bear it thus working as it should I guess.

DougB 06-02-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 685629)
Yesterday, Disney followed Universal's recent price increase and is now the most expensive park in Florida. At $95.00 plus tax, it will now cost a family of four (over 10 years old) over $400.00 just to get into the Park. Add food to that cost and you have a very expensive outing for sure. My last trip to Disney cost three of us nearly $300.00, stood in lines for hours and hours and was only able to ride four rides and watch the parade. The entry fee to Disney has doubles since 2000. This price increases concerns me because I believe there are many average families with children who might never have the funds to attend either of the parks.

Each year many, many schools send their students on field trips to the theme parks. The school I worked at is 80% free or reduced lunch because of their families economic status. For the past 17 years I have conducted fund raisers each year to send anywhere from 75 - 100 students. Many schools do this. So for those of you who feel like Warren (who I believe has his heart in the right place) and genuinely are concerned about those whose families cannot afford to go, I am asking, no I am challenging you to seek out a school and step up and help. If you do not have the time because it may take away your tee or pool time, the schools will gladly accept monetary contributions.

OK, let the tomatoes start flying this way.

Mack184 06-02-2013 09:06 PM

I've never been to Disneyworld or the original Disneyland, and it's just not something that interests me. But...if you're going to a place like that, then I'm a believer that isn't the time to cheap out. Go there..eat the $9 Hot Dogs and drink the $12 Cokes and just have a good time. There are lots of times to save money, but if you're taking what may be a once-in-a-lifetime trip...dig into your wallet and just enjoy!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-02-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragman (Post 685987)
Food prices are absurd but it's no different than a sporting event. We went to a Rays game and a 12 ounce beer is $10.00. If I recall correctly, hot dogs were
$8.00.

Some food prices are high but much of it is affordable.

Sushi combo at Japan is about $ 1 or more than Publix.

Seasons at Epcot has fresh (veggies are raised on site) meals priced around $ 10.

Flame Tree BBQ and Yak And Yeti at AK are reasonable. Large portions. Adult couples split the entree.

Most counter service items can be split and combos can be reduced to sandwich only. Ice water is free at counter service outlets with or without purchase.

Character dining is IMO a ripoff, but if you're one a once a generation trip with kids or grand-kids, go for it.

Liquor is expensive; no Villages 241 happy hour there.

Disney is a resort and priced accordingly. You can go cheaply by cutting corners or have the lavish vacation of your life, but not both.

We have seasonal weekday passes and love going anytime we would want to go (wouldn't be caught dead there at busy seasons) and since everyday is Saturday at the Villages the weekends don't matter.

I'm just glad there is a Walt Disney World to entertain the world.

:a040:

We ate at Yak and Yeti last week. I had a burger and fries for $18.99. It was an excellent burger and very large, but $18.99?

senior citizen 06-02-2013 10:49 PM

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Ragman 06-03-2013 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 686073)
We ate at Yak and Yeti last week. I had a burger and fries for $18.99. It was an excellent burger and very large, but $18.99?

Sorry,I meant the counter service cafe there, Anandapur,not the full service dining. All entrees under $11 and both couples had plenty to eat splitting. Cokes are $2.59.

Just saying a little research and planning can make things more affordable.

graciegirl 06-03-2013 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 685652)
No matter what the price there will always be families that can't afford to bring their kids there.
Millions of people come from all over the world to experience these parks. The price doesn't seem to be driving anyone away. It's, like everything in business, simple supply and demand. If the price was too high, people would stop coming. As long as the parks fill up, the prices will increase.

The other thing is that there seems to be thousands of discount programs available. It seems that every time share operation gives out Disney tickets. I'm sure they are not paying full price. If you stay in the resorts you get a reduced price. Florida residents have numerous options to pay very low prices to vist the parks. The entrance fees are also bundled into vacation "packages" which I assume that most people visiting from out of state are buying. If you vist more than one park over a few days the price is reduced. I have to wonder how many people actually pay the $95.00 advertised price. It may be a case of marking it up so that they can offer discounts.

I also wonder what the cost is of running and maintaining these parks. They are always beautiful and clean. There seems to be constant expansion going on. Operating costs must be huge. I wouldn't want to see the quality reduced.

What was the cost of the parks when they first opened and what is the cost today adjusted for inflation? Also what are you getting today in terms of technology and experiences that you weren't getting 25 years ago.

People will always complain about prices, but we need to look at all of the factors when it comes to setting a price.

And, Disney made the Orlando area what it is today. The other parks and attractions wouldn't exist today if not for Walt's vision, Orlando would be the sleepy little horse town it was before The Magic Kingdom opened. When people hear the name Orlando, they immediately think Disney World. They are the biggest, and most famous park in the world. They should have the highest prices compared to other parks in the area. If it wasn't for Disney, Universal wouldn't exist. Or it might exist in Los Angeles.

You nailed it, Dr. Boogie. That is how it works. Free enterprise. Prices at an amusement park are not always fair or for everyone, but if you want to go really bad and you don't have a lot of money you can save and sacrifice and give up other things. Many people do that here in this great U.S.. folks are NOT excluded. Sometimes you have to wait for things and plan for things for a very long time. One of the very first thing I was taught as a little child is save your money, even if it is a little bit, over time it adds up.

stuckinparadise 06-03-2013 07:25 AM

When our children were growing up we would save money to make the trip to Disney World. Back then, the price for admission may have been cheaper but our salaries were also much less than what we are paid these days. I feel that going to Disney World is not a necessity, so if you can't afford the price, then you don't go. We love Disney World and will probably buy the season pass once we are Florida residents. BTW, Disney offers the best running events I've ever participated in my entire life. The price for these races is about 4 times the price of any other I've been in but well worth it.

Warren Kiefer 06-03-2013 07:39 AM

Boogie
 
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 685880)
I hope that you didn't take my post as an attack on you or your post. You said that you didn't know and I provided the answer. My comment was aimed more toward the poster who claimed that we have a 50% poverty rate.

Itg's OK Boogie. I love the banter back and forth. One learns a lot of things in the minor debates. I did get my hands slapped for coming back at you with the complainer complaint. I will take that in stride and not let it ruin the remainder of my short life ... LOL

villagerjack 06-03-2013 07:48 AM

"Nobody goes there anymore, it is too crowded",....Yogi

Warren Kiefer 06-03-2013 07:51 AM

Help those less fortunate
 
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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 686022)
Each year many, many schools send their students on field trips to the theme parks. The school I worked at is 80% free or reduced lunch because of their families economic status. For the past 17 years I have conducted fund raisers each year to send anywhere from 75 - 100 students. Many schools do this. So for those of you who feel like Warren (who I believe has his heart in the right place) and genuinely are concerned about those whose families cannot afford to go, I am asking, no I am challenging you to seek out a school and step up and help. If you do not have the time because it may take away your tee or pool time, the schools will gladly accept monetary contributions.

OK, let the tomatoes start flying this way.

Absolutely wonderful post !!!!! You have hit dead center the reason for my original posting. It's not a child's fault he is born to less financially successful parents. I do know that poorer children hasve the same wishes and dreams of affluent children, but will usually be divided throughout his childhood of not seeing those dreams fufilled.. Doug, you took on this disparity in children and made a difference. I applaud you !!!!

villagerjack 06-03-2013 07:54 AM

DIS Basic Chart | Walt Disney Company (The) Commo Stock - Yahoo! Finance

If we bought the stock in 'overpriced" compamies instead of complaining about the cost, we could have easily paid for our admission. Disney is up more than 50%. same is true for our cable and telephone companies and these comanies offer dividends as well.

graciegirl 06-03-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 686173)
Absolutely wonderful post !!!!! You have hit dead center the reason for my original posting. It's not a child's fault he is born to less financially successful parents. I do know that poorer children hasve the same wishes and dreams of affluent children, but will usually be divided throughout his childhood of not seeing those dreams fufilled.. Doug, you took on this disparity in children and made a difference. I applaud you !!!!

AND there are children who will be born into families that cannot afford certain things that will grow up to change the family they live in to be able to have the things they long for.

I grew up reading book after book after book on ballet and ballerinas and drew pictures of them and danced around our living room a lot..but our family didn't have the money for dance lessons, my friends families didn't either. I don't think the world lost a gifted ballerina in me, AND we were able to give our girls dance lessons and that made me feel better although they weren't too shot down with dancing in tutus.:loco:

I don't think it is a big deal. I don't. Dreamers will dream and plan to get where they want to go. There are things that are a right and things that are a privilege and doing without some of those fancy things as kids makes you appreciate them when you are able to get them for yourself.

I think Doug is a great guy and I applaud his efforts, but in the scheme of things, missing out on going to Disney as a child is not a huge, HUGE thing. Some parents are putting that money in a college fund and that is the choice they are making. Just think how much one of those big tattoos cost and how everyone can't afford them.

Be nice, Gracie.

George Bieniaszek 06-03-2013 08:35 AM

The best deal around is to take advantage of the discount yearly passes for Florida residents. My wife and I have renewed our passes for a second year now and enjoy our day trips to Disney. We chose the Weekday pass (Mon-Fri) and they do have blackout dates that basically correspond to school vacations and all summer, times that we wouldn't go anyway because of the additional crowds.

As far as food, we agree that the prices are outrageous, so we usually go to one park in the morning, then leave and go somewhere close to eat, i.e. Friendly's, Golden Corral, etc. and come back and go to a second park. We go at a leisurely pace and not rushed to do 4 parks in a couple of days like vacationing families.

villagerjack 06-03-2013 08:45 AM

Growing up in the South Bronx, we coud not even afford a trip to the beach so our Disney water park was opening up the Fire Hydrant which we called the" Johnny Pump". Our bats were sawed off broom handles and our bases were sewers in the street. Point is that kids are very creative, do not know about poverty levels and not affording certain things could be more good than bad. I still have very fond memories of those times and forgot most of what we did when we took our kids to Disney.,

asianthree 06-03-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeC1947 (Post 685708)
Yes there is.

Disney Magic Your Way Tickets

I'm still paying 2005 prices because I bought a 10 admission hopper ticket for $350 which included 5 water parks and 5 ESPN admissions.

disney is not selling non expire...some off site still have them

kbace6 06-03-2013 08:47 AM

I don't know about any of you, but when I was a kid the possibility of going to Disney was never even a thought. We were on food stamps at one point and it never made me sad. I never felt that I went without. We went to the Rhode Island beaches once every couple of years and the rest of the time we played with all the other kids in the neighborhood who could not afford to go to Disney. In fact I can't think of anyone I knew as a child who did go to Disney. I think too much is being made about the price increase. I will say that as an adult I have been maybe half a dozen times to many of the theme parks in the Orlando area and I love them. I'm not going to admonish any business that is willing to price themselves out of any segment of the population. If someone feels left out, then that is something to work toward, a goal if you will. Everyone need a goal, even if it is one as frivolous as being able to afford to go to a theme park.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-03-2013 08:56 AM

Some of these post remind of the insurance company commercial with the Peanuts gang where they think that the insurance premiums should be a nickel. An adult has to explain to them that everything can't be a nickel.

justjim 06-03-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 686185)
AND there are children who will be born into families that cannot afford certain things that will grow up to change the family they live in to be able to have the things they long for.

I grew up reading book after book after book on ballet and ballerinas and drew pictures of them and danced around our living room a lot..but our family didn't have the money for dance lessons, my friends families didn't either. I don't think the world lost a gifted ballerina in me, AND we were able to give our girls dance lessons and that made me feel better although they weren't too shot down with dancing in tutus.:loco:

I don't think it is a big deal. I don't. Dreamers will dream and plan to get where they want to go. There are things that are a right and things that are a privilege and doing without some of those fancy things as kids makes you appreciate them when you are able to get them for yourself.

I think Doug is a great guy and I applaud his efforts, but in the scheme of things, missing out on going to Disney as a child is not a huge, HUGE thing. Some parents are putting that money in a college fund and that is the choice they are making. Just think how much one of those big tattoos cost and how everyone can't afford them.

Be nice, Gracie.

I agree 100%. Nothing wrong with going to Disney but getting a good education is much more important. On a regular basis I hear where Grandma and Grandpa or Dad and Mom paid for a trip to Disney and complaining or bragging "it cost us three thousand or five thousand dollars" when they added up all the cost of hotel, plane tickets etc. etc. Maybe we got our priorities all wrong. The same people turn around and say "college cost two much----Junior is just going to have to work and take out a loan.". Disney does a great job of marketing and every kid and most adults want to go but Disney is not near as important as some other "things" in life. Boy Howdy Gracie---- How I loved to save my pop bottles, pick wild berries and sell them, mow yards and carry in coal to save for the County Fair!! That Williamson County Fair---now that was the place to go!! OP, the tickets are too darn high!! I'm taking the kids to the County Fair to see the guy wrestle the Alligator.

janmcn 06-03-2013 09:07 AM

The past two years, Disney, as well as Universal and Legoland, have had to restrict the number of guests it can admit over the Christmas holidays. We will see if that happens this year after the price increase.

asianthree 06-03-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 686224)
The past two years, Disney, as well as Universal and Legoland, have had to restrict the number of guests it can admit over the Christmas holidays. We will see if that happens this year after the price increase.

they will come christmas is magical for us

NotGolfer 06-03-2013 09:18 AM

I was 10 (I think) when Disneyland opened up in SoCal. I was a movie-goer and a dreamer BUT my parents never felt it was a priority for us to "need" to go there. I finally made it to Disneyworld in my 30's....it wasn't TOO expensive yet so we were able to include our "tweeners" in that trip. As adults now, they don't view it a huge priority to go to either attraction. Our culture has made entertainment into an "experience". As some others have said on here that growing up was where we had to "make" our own entertainment (ie. using our imaginations).

For me it was reading, riding my bike and pretending I was anything I wanted to be. I used to "act out" stories I'd read and movies I'd seen---but putting my own story-lines into it. I never felt deprived----except maybe never getting that pony I yearned for. My own kids would say that they lived a very great childhood since they lived in a community where they could ride their bikes anywhere. PLUS in the summers---the day would begin leaving the house to play with friends only to come home at mealtime.

Today so much is given to kids. They have the latest in technology yet are bored if it's taken away. Am I deviating too much from the OpEd?? I hope not! Going to the attractions has gotten way out of hand in their prices!!!

Geewiz 06-03-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 686185)
AND there are children who will be born into families that cannot afford certain things that will grow up to change the family they live in to be able to have the things they long for.

I grew up reading book after book after book on ballet and ballerinas and drew pictures of them and danced around our living room a lot..but our family didn't have the money for dance lessons, my friends families didn't either. I don't think the world lost a gifted ballerina in me, AND we were able to give our girls dance lessons and that made me feel better although they weren't too shot down with dancing in tutus.:loco:

I don't think it is a big deal. I don't. Dreamers will dream and plan to get where they want to go. There are things that are a right and things that are a privilege and doing without some of those fancy things as kids makes you appreciate them when you are able to get them for yourself.

I think Doug is a great guy and I applaud his efforts, but in the scheme of things, missing out on going to Disney as a child is not a huge, HUGE thing. Some parents are putting that money in a college fund and that is the choice they are making. Just think how much one of those big tattoos cost and how everyone can't afford them.

Be nice, Gracie.

Gracie is my hero and my heroin. We have such a relatively short time on this mortal coil, winning or losing here is small potatoes.

Still, the joy of seeing a child experience the magic of Disney illusion is a wonder and going there helps us reconnect with our younger, innocent selves. I go because I become a kid again.

Hating to make the same point again, if the money goes to adding rides and shorter waits, the additional cost is fine....kids get more experience in their limited time at the park. If it's just to maximize the already large profits...that's a rip.

I have a yearly pass with parking. I resent waiting 2 hours for a 5 minute ride. Disney attendance went up substantially last year. Hey guys, build some more E ticket rides. Bring back old favs like Mr. Toad. Build a new land or new park. Reduce the congestion. Make the kids happy.

janmcn 06-03-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Geewiz (Post 686234)
Gracie is my hero and my heroin. We have such a relatively short time on this mortal coil, winning or losing here is small potatoes.

Still, the joy of seeing a child experience the magic of Disney illusion is a wonder and going there helps us reconnect with our younger, innocent selves. I go because I become a kid again.

Hating to make the same point again, if the money goes to adding rides and shorter waits, the additional cost is fine....kids get more experience in their limited time at the park. If it's just to maximize the already large profits...that's a rip.

I have a yearly pass with parking. I resent waiting 2 hours for a 5 minute ride. Disney attendance went up substantially last year. Hey guys, build some more E ticket rides. Bring back old favs like Mr. Toad. Build a new land or new park. Reduce the congestion. Make the kids happy.

Disney just completed the largest expansion of the Magic Kindom in the park's history, with more to come in 2014. Realizing that this section of the park would not benefit the adult visitors, but Disney can only be expected to do so much, so quickly.


https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/ev...w-fantasyland/

mac6115cd 06-03-2013 10:41 AM

Ever been to WDW and not been overrun by foreign tourists? Theme park prices are being driven by foreigners. The dollar is cheaper in other currancuies and as long as they keep coming, the prices will continue to rise - again, supply and demand.

justjim 06-03-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 686254)
Disney just completed the largest expansion of the Magic Kindom in the park's history, with more to come in 2014. Realizing that this section of the park would not benefit the adult visiters, but Disney can only be expected to do so much, so quickly.


https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/ev...w-fantasyland/

As our grand kids have gotten older they began to "drop" Disney and prefer Busch Gardens with all the larger and many Roller Coasters. The little ones no doubt love Disney. It seems to me that Disney could do themselves a favor by a Theme Park of attractions and rides aimed at the teenage population. That's been our experience. A Disney ticket is just not worth the price for The teenagers who might only get to ride three or four rides all day long. They did enjoy watching the guy wrestle the alligator at the Lake County Fair. If I remember correctly, it cost about $20.00 for a day pass!!

Indy-Guy 06-03-2013 02:41 PM

To get the best bang for your buck at Disney and other Orlando attractions see the site below. It even shows you how to you can still purchase tickets at the old prices and get discounts. One of my favorite sections is telling you what you can do at Disney free. There is a lot of information on this site.

MouseSavers.com - Your source for Disney discounts, codes & deals!

Number 6 06-03-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 686215)
Some of these post remind of the insurance company commercial with the Peanuts gang where they think that the insurance premiums should be a nickel. An adult has to explain to them that everything can't be a nickel.

Perfect. I don't think that Disney ever had the intention of being a social service agency or part of the Federal "War on Poverty".

wendyquat 06-03-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 685830)
There a whole bunch of people out there that can't afford their next meal or decent clothes to send their kids to school in. I worry more about them than the cost of Disney or any theme park.

:agree:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-03-2013 04:05 PM

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Hating to make the same point again, if the money goes to adding rides and shorter waits, the additional cost is fine....kids get more experience in their limited time at the park. If it's just to maximize the already large profits...that's a rip.
It's a rip off for a company to want to maximize it's profits? Really? I don't think that I know of any company that wants to maximize it's profits. Aren't we still a capitalist society? Are profits now somehow immoral?

Another thing to look at is that Disney is a publicly traded company. Many of us may have shares hidden in our retirement accounts. Doesn't the management of Disney< and every other public corporation for that matter, have a duty and responsibility to make as much money for its investors as possible.

The parks are too crowded. Raising the prices doesn't seem to deter people from coming. Disney would be shirking it's responsibility to it's investors, which could be you and I, if they didn't raise their prices. Don't you want to see your investment portfolio grow? Don't you want to have more money for your retirement? How do you think that money is made?

senior citizen 06-03-2013 04:31 PM

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jojo 06-03-2013 08:11 PM

To the OP, thank you for originating this thread. I've learned a lot of helpful information.

Geewiz 06-04-2013 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 686415)
It's a rip off for a company to want to maximize it's profits? Really? I don't think that I know of any company that wants to maximize it's profits. Aren't we still a capitalist society? Are profits now somehow immoral?

Another thing to look at is that Disney is a publicly traded company. Many of us may have shares hidden in our retirement accounts. Doesn't the management of Disney< and every other public corporation for that matter, have a duty and responsibility to make as much money for its investors as possible.

The parks are too crowded. Raising the prices doesn't seem to deter people from coming. Disney would be shirking it's responsibility to it's investors, which could be you and I, if they didn't raise their prices. Don't you want to see your investment portfolio grow? Don't you want to have more money for your retirement? How do you think that money is made?

Jim - I have no problem with businesses making money. But, they do have an obligation to take care of their customers and provide value for cost. Want to raise prices...fine. But, then enhance value. Disney parks are making a ton of cash....they are not hurting. But, lines are getting longer (there is an app that will give you real time line wait times). Paying a hundred per person just to send them to a 75 minute line for a 5 minute ride is a rip.

The new fantasyland will be fun but only increase the volume of folks at that park. The 2 lower attendance parks are The Studio and Animal Kingdom. Add Cars Land to the Studio and get Avatar up and running at Animal Kingdom.

Also a new theme park like Disney Seas (existing in Japan) will go a long way to absorb crowds, lower wait times and bring more joy.

All is need is love.

asianthree 06-04-2013 07:14 AM

This sounds awful but we go without kids, have you ever seen happy kids by noon, they are tired hungry and want a nap..but mom and dad are going to keep going because it was too much money


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