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njbchbum 02-17-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 830944)
According to Janet Tutt's assistant, the Developer owns the property and is paying Community Watch to patrol it, and to ask dog walkers to go elsewhere. Gracie, I don't know where the Developer is getting the money. I did suggest to Janet's assistant that at the very least, signs should be posted. This situation appears to be unique to the Tamarind Grove Postal Station for now.

That makes me wonder if C.W. staff has been pulled from regular assignments to fulfill the dog patrol duties or if additional C.W. are on dog patrol.

CatskillBill 02-17-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 830944)
According to Janet Tutt's assistant, the Developer owns the property and is paying Community Watch to patrol it, and to ask dog walkers to go elsewhere. Gracie, I don't know where the Developer is getting the money. I did suggest to Janet's assistant that at the very least, signs should be posted.

This situation appears to be unique to the Tamarind Grove Postal Station for now.

This situation is not limited to Tamarind Grove. Last week there were at least five brown smears around the Poinciana mail boxes.

When will dog owners realize that the WHOLE area around the pools, bocce ball courts, shuffleboard courts, mail boxes and horseshoe pits are where HUMANS walk? So KEEP OUT. I'm glad my fees will go towards patrolling by Community Watch and I hope the ID checkers too. It's time for signs to up! There is a huge area all around the Poinciana Pond that can be used for walking their dogs.

gomoho 02-17-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 830989)
We've moved across the USA 11 times and never, not even once--including here--did a real estate listing say it was a "dog friendly" community.

We never needed to ask about whether it was friendly for us with our dog, either, because WE accommodate for our dog and the land he needs for running around and pottying on.

If the one-acre or half-acre lots we had, or the courtyard villa lot we have here were not big enough for the dog to get enough exercise on, then we'd buy a place with several acres.

Can't afford several acres? Then change course. There's acreage for sale outside of TV for a whole lot less.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

And finally, the title of the newspaper article and the title of this thread got it right: it's the OWNER who's irresponsible and the usual problem, not the dog.

hat

What I find curious about your post is the fact that you believe it is "your way or the highway". Why not the other way around - and in the words or the infamous Rodney King "can't we all just get along"???

gomoho 02-17-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 830885)

I am surprised no one mentioned today's article in the Daily Sun Local Section Page C1 & C5 "Disobedient dog owners causing messy situation"

And you just couldn't leave well enough alone:loco:

billethkid 02-17-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CatskillBill (Post 830996)
This situation is not limited to Tamarind Grove. Last week there were at least five brown smears around the Poinciana mail boxes.

When will some sdog owners realize that the WHOLE area around the pools, bocce ball courts, shuffleboard courts, mail boxes and horseshoe pits are where HUMANS walk? So if you are a violator KEEP OUT. I'm glad my fees will go towards patrolling by Community Watch and I hope the ID checkers too. It's time for signs to up! There is a huge area all around the Poinciana Pond that can be used for walking their dogs.

I submit the above be modified for ACCURACY!....per my colorful additions.

Another point I would like to have emphasized for clarification is the difference between taking a dog out to go potty and the other is taking a dog for a walk.
Let me present me as an example. I take our dog to go potty on our property. I take my dog walking...everyday 2-3 miles on the multi modal paths...and like all the rest of the 95% responsible dog owners I carry a plastic bag in the UNLIKELY event she has to potty while walking.

Always seems easier to generalize than be specific, however it does cast an unwarranted tone for those of us who do right.

Are you ready to call out your neighbor when they do the wrong thing? Another resident elsewhere in TV? History says no. And the times we live in there are too many who do not want to offend somebody (but will B-eye-itch here and elsewhere).

Enforcement by all or it won't work. Signs alone won't work.
Perfect examples every day in so many ways...speeding...rolling through stop signs....throwing trash on the streets and paths....parking in unauthorized spaces and on and on.

REMEMBER WE ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE 5%.......who do not comply.

Three cheers for the 95% of us who do what is right. And yes I do call out those who do not pick up after their dogs if I happen to see/catch them......sometimes not a pleasant encounter, but most of the time it is vocalized as an oops or I don't have a bag, etc (while under their breath they think screw you old man!).

NORMAL. 3 more cheers for the 95%.:wave:

Barefoot 02-17-2014 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 830944)
According to Janet Tutt's assistant, the Developer owns the property and is paying Community Watch to patrol it, and to ask dog walkers to go elsewhere....... This situation appears to be unique to the Tamarind Grove Postal Station for now.

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Originally Posted by CatskillBill (Post 830996)
This situation is not limited to Tamarind Grove .....

If there are other postal stations being patrolled by Community Watch, please let us know. I was told by Janet Tutt's assistant that Tamarind Grove is the only postal station where CW is being paid by the Developer to patrol.

Cobh521 02-17-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 830989)
We've moved across the USA 11 times and never, not even once--including here--did a real estate listing say it was a "dog friendly" community.

We never needed to ask about whether it was friendly for us with our dog, either, because WE accommodate for our dog and the land he needs for running around and pottying on.

If the one-acre or half-acre lots we had, or the courtyard villa lot we have here were not big enough for the dog to get enough exercise on, then we'd buy a place with several acres.

Can't afford several acres? Then change course. There's acreage for sale outside of TV for a whole lot less.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

And finally, the title of the newspaper article and the title of this thread got it right: it's the OWNER who's irresponsible and the usual problem, not the dog.

I agree. I did not see it advertised anywhere or in my contract that The Villages is a dog friendly community. My property is private and I do not want dogs walking all over it. The owners allow the dogs on the property by releasing
Long leases. I know that The Villages allows dogs and provides places for dogs to run unleashed. By providing places for dogs, in my opinion does not mean owners can let their dogs go wherever the owner feels they should be. Dogs should be confined to their property or use the dog parks. They should not be walked on private property

Barefoot 02-17-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 831007)

REMEMBER WE ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE 5%.......who do not comply.

Three cheers for the 95% of us who do what is right.

Exactly. :bigbow:

TraceyMooreRN 02-17-2014 08:07 PM

As far as taking a dog for a walk--just make sure you are keeping the dog off private property. Simple- if you don't own it and it is not public property keep your dog off the property. I can tell you that if everyone would do that this would be a dog friendly area. If you walk your dog down the street--don't let him go in the neighbors yard, not difficult. Actually it is a pretty simple task, especially since you have them on a leash.

Have them go in your own yard, walk on street until you get to a sidewalk and proceed. Dog friendly--I have two dogs Maltese and Yorkie and we love dogs!

billethkid 02-17-2014 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TraceyMooreRN (Post 831018)
As far as taking a dog for a walk--just make sure you are keeping the dog off private property. Simple- if you don't own it and it is not public property keep your dog off the property. I can tell you that if everyone would do that this would be a dog friendly area. If you walk your dog down the street--don't let him go in the neighbors yard, not difficult. Actually it is a pretty simple task, especially since you have them on a leash.

Have them go in your own yard, walk on street until you get to a sidewalk and proceed. Dog friendly--I have two dogs Maltese and Yorkie and we love dogs!

For clarity and specificity....THE ABOVE MESSAGE IS INTENDED FOR THE 5% WHO DO NOT COMPLY.

n8xwb 02-17-2014 08:11 PM

Gets my vote.....right after they pass one limiting smokers to smoking only on their private property......come on folks, get real.

janmcn 02-17-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobh521 (Post 831013)
I agree. I did not see it advertised anywhere or in my contract that The Villages is a dog friendly community. My property is private and I do not want dogs walking all over it. The owners allow the dogs on the property by releasing
Long leases. I know that The Villages allows dogs and provides places for dogs to run unleashed. By providing places for dogs, in my opinion does not mean owners can let their dogs go wherever the owner feels they should be. Dogs should be confined to their property or use the dog parks. They should not be walked on private property


What is the difference between "dog friendly community" and "allowing pets"?

perrjojo 02-17-2014 08:21 PM

I'm sorry a dog pooped and inconvenienced you but I hate it even more that we had two golf carts stolen this week and now another robbery in Santa Domingo.
I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

Cobh521 02-17-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 831027)
What is the difference between "dog friendly community" and "allowing pets"?

There is really no difference, however some dog owners believe that by using the term "dog friendly community", their dogs can be allowed anywhere they want and the community must accept that. If a non dog owner is upset because an owner lets their dog all over the non owners property, we are told on this site, why did we move into a dog friendly community.

BritParrothead 02-17-2014 08:27 PM

Dogs
 
Is there a fine for dog fouling? In my town it is £100 / $160 if you are caught not cleaning up after your dog. It works.


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