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Stu from NYC 03-30-2024 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2317279)
They are starting to tick me off!

Just starting? you have a lot of patience.

Two Bills 03-31-2024 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2317276)
They do:bigbow:

Are you positive it isn't them? :shrug:

Laker14 03-31-2024 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2317235)
The Lifestyle visit is a "taste"... It's the bait...

You don't really know what living in TV is until you actually live here for a while.

A week just doesn't cut it...

Our lifestyle visit was actually stying with friends for a week. I was immediately smitten. My wife, otoh, wasn't so sure. So, a year later, we rented for two months. That was the assurance she needed...

During that two month stay, we made an offer on a home and it was accepted. That was just over 3 years ago...

You and your wife's experience very closely resembles how my wife and I came to be homeowners here in TV. Visiting friends, then renting, then buying. I was pretty much sold many years ago when I first drove up Morse from 466A (before there was any Villages development south of 466A), and seeing the golf courses on either side of Morse. My wife wasn't sold on the place until many years later, after we rented a couple of winters. Now she loves it and occasionally will even tell me I was "right". (Wow! just wow.)

One really learns a lot by renting for a season or longer. I got past the "honeymoon" delirium, but still found it worthwhile, and my wife moved past her misgivings about the place to deciding it was a good place for our winter migrations. We sort of met in the middle.

In addition to the big question about whether TV was right for us at all, we learned a lot about what kind of home, neighborhood, etc. we'd want to buy into.

That kind of rental experience fits well into the overall TV model. I certainly wouldn't want to be next door to a revolving door **** rental unit.

JMintzer 03-31-2024 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2317295)
Just starting? you have a lot of patience.

Dealing with "patients" for close to 40 years tends to give one "patience"... :icon_wink:

JMintzer 03-31-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2317306)
Are you positive it isn't them? :shrug:

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kkingston57 04-01-2024 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 2316491)
Not only about rentals, internal also goes to having kids live with you, kids staing more than 30 days a year, noise complaints. Also, not sure the state bill has any teeth in it or how they will enforce.

Will need to create new agency and call it "Village Enforcement" and they will need to enforce all of the BNB Operations, golf cart speeders, independently investigate Morse Blvd cart vs car accidents, enforce crosses and other similar things, monitor all round abouts, etc and all at a cost which will not increase amenity fees by no more than $5.00 a household.

Shipping up to Boston 04-01-2024 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2317619)
Will need to create new agency and call it "Village Enforcement" and they will need to enforce all of the BNB Operations, golf cart speeders, independently investigate Morse Blvd cart vs car accidents, enforce crosses and other similar things, monitor all round abouts, etc and all at a cost which will not increase amenity fees by no more than $5.00 a household.

Oh Boy. Smh

JMintzer 04-01-2024 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2317628)
Oh Boy. Smh

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biker1 04-01-2024 03:27 PM

There isn't any arbitrary increasing of the amenity fee. The amenity fee changes according to the CPI, as per your deed restrictions.

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2317619)
Will need to create new agency and call it "Village Enforcement" and they will need to enforce all of the BNB Operations, golf cart speeders, independently investigate Morse Blvd cart vs car accidents, enforce crosses and other similar things, monitor all round abouts, etc and all at a cost which will not increase amenity fees by no more than $5.00 a household.


Stu from NYC 04-01-2024 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2317737)
There isn't any arbitrary increasing of the amenity fee. The amenity fee changes according to the CPI, as per your deed restrictions.

Not if they add more functions that add to expenses

Shipping up to Boston 04-01-2024 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2317722)

Youve been on a lot longer than me....you never know whos kidding and who isn't ;)

JMintzer 04-01-2024 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2317753)
Youve been on a lot longer than me....you never know whos kidding and who isn't ;)

Well, "Sarcasm" -is- my 2nd language, so...

biker1 04-01-2024 04:56 PM

Doubtful. You have some language that supports that assertion?

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2317752)
Not if they add more functions that add to expenses


Bill14564 04-01-2024 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2317737)
There isn't any arbitrary increasing of the amenity fee. The amenity fee changes according to the CPI, as per your deed restrictions.

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2317752)
Not if they add more functions that add to expenses

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2317766)
Doubtful. You have some language that supports that assertion?

I have this language in my deed restrictions:
4.1(c) Each Owner agrees that as additional facilities are requested by the Owner, and the erection of such additional facilities is agreed to by the Developer, that upon a vote of 1/2 of the Owners approving such additional facilities and commensurate charges therefore, the monthly Contractual Amenities Fee provided for herein shall be increased accordingly. For the purpose of all votes, the Developer shall be entitled to one (1) vote for each Homesite owned by the Developer.
Additional facilities -> additional costs -> increased amenities fee. Of note, the addition of these facilities must be approved by 1/2 of the owners so not exactly arbitrary.

biker1 04-01-2024 05:55 PM

Yes, my deed restrictions say that. It isn't clear to me that a facility is the same as a service since they use the term "erection", such as building something. What is being discussed is a service and not a facility. Regardless, the CDDs cannot arbitrarily increase the amenity fee unless additional facilities are requested by the owners and agreed to by 1/2 the owners. I have lived here for 10 years and have never seen that happen. Good luck with that.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2317774)
I have this language in my deed restrictions:
4.1(c) Each Owner agrees that as additional facilities are requested by the Owner, and the erection of such additional facilities is agreed to by the Developer, that upon a vote of 1/2 of the Owners approving such additional facilities and commensurate charges therefore, the monthly Contractual Amenities Fee provided for herein shall be increased accordingly. For the purpose of all votes, the Developer shall be entitled to one (1) vote for each Homesite owned by the Developer.
Additional facilities -> additional costs -> increased amenities fee. Of note, the addition of these facilities must be approved by 1/2 of the owners so not exactly arbitrary.


Bill14564 04-01-2024 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2317777)
Yes, my deed restrictions say that. It isn't clear to me that a facility is the same as a service since they use the term "erection", such as building something. What is being discussed is a service and not a facility. Regardless, the CDDs cannot arbitrarily increase the amenity fee unless additional facilities are requested by the owners and agreed to by 1/2 the owners. I have lived here for 10 years and have never seen that happen. Good luck with that.

This thread and any additional costs have no connection to amenities fees. The numbered CDDs have nothing to do with amenities fees - they don't levy amenities fees, they don't receive amenities fees, and they don't spend amenities fees.

This thread has to do with the possibility of numbered CDDs taking on additional duties.The activities of the numbered CDDs are funded through the annual maintenance fee.

Amenities fees can be increased beyond the CPI adjustment as detailed in the deed restrictions. However, since the topic of this thread has nothing to do with additional amenities, the topic of this thread cannot result in an increase in amenities fees.

biker1 04-01-2024 06:21 PM

I never said the numbered CDDs. I was also responding to the post suggesting that the amenity fee could be increased by $5 for an additional service. It can't. Reread my post.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2317781)
This thread and any additional costs have no connection to amenities fees. The numbered CDDs have nothing to do with amenities fees - they don't levy amenities fees, they don't receive amenities fees, and they don't spend amenities fees.

This thread has to do with the possibility of numbered CDDs taking on additional duties.The activities of the numbered CDDs are funded through the annual maintenance fee.

Amenities fees can be increased beyond the CPI adjustment as detailed in the deed restrictions. However, since the topic of this thread has nothing to do with additional amenities, the topic of this thread cannot result in an increase in amenities fees.


Bill14564 04-01-2024 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2317782)
I never said the numbered CDDs. I was also responding to the post suggesting that the amenity fee could be increased by $5 for an additional service. It can't. Reread my post.

Just trying to tie things together for anyone who has become lost in all the extraneous information.

I read and understood your post. I even agreed with it to a point. What I didn't understand was the post you responded to, it seemed like an April Fool's joke.


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