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nn0wheremann 03-29-2024 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sam&rog (Post 2316268)
The developer is promoting turning over inside deed restrictions to the districts under the guise of stopping under age kids living here.

Sounds good until you realize that enforcement of short term rentals would also be included.

Airbnb website lists 1000 plus rentals under The Villages Fl.

Imagine the costs to address this with lawyer fees and court costs paid by us. Because the developer sees what is happening and wants to pawn another problem onto the districts.
Time to say no thank you.

One would think that most of the STRs are investment properties, financed by mortgages. I would be surprised if in Florida a government lien does not have first priority for collection, so legal cost of enforcement could be supported by liens placed against the offending properties, which would invalidate the first mortgage liens, and make those mortgages immediately collectible. Quite an incentive to get out of the STR business if the District governments would actually start enforcing the deed restrictions.

Topspinmo 03-29-2024 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2316865)
Not everyone can afford 6 month rentals. Not everyone is already retired and can take 6 months off their jobs... And if they do buy, they may need that added income to carry the home until they -do- move in full time...

And you want ZERO rentals? Typical "I got mine" attitude...

I'm not yet a "frog", and we don't rent out our home when we're not there. We consider ourselves lucky to be able to pull that off...

Why have lifestyle visit. Yes ZERO. You know what the say want in one hand and ——- in the other.

tophcfa 03-29-2024 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2316932)
One would think that most of the STRs are investment properties, financed by mortgages. I would be surprised if in Florida a government lien does not have first priority for collection, so legal cost of enforcement could be supported by liens placed against the offending properties, which would invalidate the first mortgage liens, and make those mortgages immediately collectible. Quite an incentive to get out of the STR business if the District governments would actually start enforcing the deed restrictions.

Sounds to good to be true. But if it is, bring it on!

CoachKandSportsguy 03-30-2024 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2316670)
Anything to get rid of short term rentals (leases under 6 months) in The Villages is a good thing!

really? a boon to the developer who will be the only one left with short term rentals for prospective buyers is the end result of this desire.

Most of our rentals have been under 6 months, and most have been looking to buy in the villages, or are family to someone in the villages for holidays as a typical house can't hold more than the owner's immediate family comfortably.

One rental was from an NFL wide receiver who was being treated for brain concussions at the local brain treatment center, also a family member of someone in the villages. .

So now you are forcing holiday family gatherings into hotels, of which there are so many?

how nice of you. . .

NIMBY runs rampant, without any understanding of the impacts. . . . and we have had repeats from people very nice, the neighbors all loved the 70 year old couples. . . who visited friends in the Villages for several months in the winter. .

JMintzer 03-30-2024 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2316938)
Why have lifestyle visit. Yes ZERO. You know what the say want in one hand and ——- in the other.

The Lifestyle visit is a "taste"... It's the bait...

You don't really know what living in TV is until you actually live here for a while.

A week just doesn't cut it...

Our lifestyle visit was actually stying with friends for a week. I was immediately smitten. My wife, otoh, wasn't so sure. So, a year later, we rented for two months. That was the assurance she needed...

During that two month stay, we made an offer on a home and it was accepted. That was just over 3 years ago...

JMintzer 03-30-2024 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2316938)
You know what the say want in one hand and ——- in the other.

Oh, and who says anything like that?

JMintzer 03-30-2024 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2317044)
really? a boon to the developer who will be the only one left with short term rentals for prospective buyers is the end result of this desire.

Most of our rentals have been under 6 months, and most have been looking to buy in the villages, or are family to someone in the villages for holidays as a typical house can't hold more than the owner's immediate family comfortably.

One rental was from an NFL wide receiver who was being treated for brain concussions at the local brain treatment center, also a family member of someone in the villages. .

So now you are forcing holiday family gatherings into hotels, of which there are so many?

how nice of you. . .

NIMBY runs rampant, without any understanding of the impacts. . . . and we have had repeats from people very nice, the neighbors all loved the 70 year old couples. . . who visited friends in the Villages for several months in the winter. .

Excellent points...

Stu from NYC 03-30-2024 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2317237)
Oh, and who says anything like that?

They do:bigbow:

JMintzer 03-30-2024 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2317276)
They do:bigbow:

They are starting to tick me off!

Shipping up to Boston 03-30-2024 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2317279)
They are starting to tick me off!

Take a deep breath.....carry on

Stu from NYC 03-30-2024 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2317279)
They are starting to tick me off!

Just starting? you have a lot of patience.

Two Bills 03-31-2024 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2317276)
They do:bigbow:

Are you positive it isn't them? :shrug:

Laker14 03-31-2024 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2317235)
The Lifestyle visit is a "taste"... It's the bait...

You don't really know what living in TV is until you actually live here for a while.

A week just doesn't cut it...

Our lifestyle visit was actually stying with friends for a week. I was immediately smitten. My wife, otoh, wasn't so sure. So, a year later, we rented for two months. That was the assurance she needed...

During that two month stay, we made an offer on a home and it was accepted. That was just over 3 years ago...

You and your wife's experience very closely resembles how my wife and I came to be homeowners here in TV. Visiting friends, then renting, then buying. I was pretty much sold many years ago when I first drove up Morse from 466A (before there was any Villages development south of 466A), and seeing the golf courses on either side of Morse. My wife wasn't sold on the place until many years later, after we rented a couple of winters. Now she loves it and occasionally will even tell me I was "right". (Wow! just wow.)

One really learns a lot by renting for a season or longer. I got past the "honeymoon" delirium, but still found it worthwhile, and my wife moved past her misgivings about the place to deciding it was a good place for our winter migrations. We sort of met in the middle.

In addition to the big question about whether TV was right for us at all, we learned a lot about what kind of home, neighborhood, etc. we'd want to buy into.

That kind of rental experience fits well into the overall TV model. I certainly wouldn't want to be next door to a revolving door **** rental unit.

JMintzer 03-31-2024 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2317295)
Just starting? you have a lot of patience.

Dealing with "patients" for close to 40 years tends to give one "patience"... :icon_wink:

JMintzer 03-31-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2317306)
Are you positive it isn't them? :shrug:

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