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westernrider75 11-19-2022 06:58 AM

We definitely wanted block construction after talking with several experienced builders. We are very impressed with this houses ability to to maintain the appropriate temperature.

Petersweeney 11-19-2022 07:01 AM

Sounds like the conversation the three little piggies had……..

Windguy 11-19-2022 07:19 AM

No stick-build house for me in hurricane country.

I saw a video of houses being hit by an atomic blast when I was young. There’s a dramatic difference in damage between stick-build and concrete block.

https://youtu.be/ztJXZjIp8OA

Larchap49 11-19-2022 07:32 AM

Building materials
 
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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2158450)
We see three methods of construction in the Villages. Precast is the newest method, while Block and stucco and Frame and Vinyl have been around awhile. How much emphasis do you place on the construction method when choosing a home? If you love the house and the location would you reject it upon finding out it was not your preferred construction method?

I opted for vinyl after living in a block/stucco house in Clearwater for 28 years. In 28 years we painted that house 5 times, very expensive. With vinyl pressure washing a couple times a year leaves alot of money for other activities. Also not too worried about hurricanes here like I was near the gulf in Clearwater. Only downside I see is vinyl house is not as bullet proof.

coconutmama 11-19-2022 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2158706)
All things being equal, concrete block. That being said, location, privacy, price, and lack of traffic are way more important to us than construction method.

Totally agree to all.
Concrete block can be changed for windows, additions, etc. I don’t see the precast as having that capability. The Villages must be saving $ with the precast but don’t see any savings being passed down to the buyer. Is it as stable in high wind? We will find out eventually. The walls of precast are thinner

But yes, location is more important to us than construction type

TomPerry 11-19-2022 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2158773)
No stick-build house for me in hurricane country.

I saw a video of houses being hit by an atomic blast when I was young. There’s a dramatic difference in damage between stick-build and concrete block.

https://youtu.be/ztJXZjIp8OA

Good point! Which family do thing was the happiest after the blast?

Larchap49 11-19-2022 07:44 AM

Quality
 
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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2158708)
The last home that I built in TN had precast wall sections on the first floor. The were great and much stronger than concrete block not to mention better moisture protection. Quality of workmanship is something different.

Basically the homes in TV are just over priced Track Home.

Sorry but don't agree. I have worked in residential construction and have seen the quality of many different builders in major developments in unscaled areas around Clearwater FL. I have looked at the framing and concrete methods and they are above average. I have found that the home measurements are accurate and square. I've witnessed no cracking of driveways like the upscale development I lived in last. Only cutbacks I see are in flooring, counters and appliances, all of which are replaceable.

joelfmi 11-19-2022 07:44 AM

Never a true word spoken add on to this CDD bond fees, high amenity fees, renters, no community travel, turnpike noise.

Laker 11-19-2022 07:56 AM

Tested by Hurricane Ian
 
Have watched several YouTube videos of people driving around Ft Myers Beach after Ian. Was surprised that newer wood-frame homes were totally sound, albeit several with a few shingles missing. And a bunch of them were 3 story high vacation rental homes.

Apparently the hurricane- standard building codes are effective.

Priebehouse 11-19-2022 07:58 AM

Wow!
 
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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2158773)
No stick-build house for me in hurricane country.

I saw a video of houses being hit by an atomic blast when I was young. There’s a dramatic difference in damage between stick-build and concrete block.

https://youtu.be/ztJXZjIp8OA

Sticks or stone will break out bones but nukes will always kill you!

john352 11-19-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2158451)
I wouldn't buy a house with vinyl siding. The "stucco" houses are not actually stucco. They have a "cement" finish applied over the concrete structure. I think it is more durable than stucco or vinyl siding.

More than 10 years ago, a major tornado cut a path through The Villages in the early morning hours of Ground Hog Day. The path of destruction started in Wildwood and destroyed a church on US 441. Many homes were destroyed. The homes built with concert blocks still had their exterior walls standing, helping to protect the residents inside.

Janie123 11-19-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2158450)
We see three methods of construction in the Villages. Precast is the newest method, while Block and stucco and Frame and Vinyl have been around awhile. How much emphasis do you place on the construction method when choosing a home? If you love the house and the location would you reject it upon finding out it was not your preferred construction method?

Concrete block walls are more expensive to construct but add savings in termite and water damage possiblities. I believe insurance costs for block houses are lower. I think the siding/EIFS is a different discussion than block or stick framed. We do NOT have stucco homes in the US, they use Exterior Insulation and Finishing system. The upside to EIFS is additional insulation 1-2” over the outside of the block walls then a coating applied to the insulation. Also, with EIFS you can change colors when painting. Coming from Colorado, vinyl siding can be destroyed during a hail storm… probably not a problem here in FL. Also, siding can be applied to concrete block walls which I believe is TV building process… could be wrong.

sowilts 11-19-2022 08:29 AM

Block is used for larger spans. Stand up poured has windows installed and those homes are preset. They have a limit on wall length. Take a ride to Fort Meyers to see the damage of a hurricane.

tuccillo 11-19-2022 09:06 AM

EIFS, haven't heard that term used in sometime. That term had a negative connotation in Georgia in the 90's because of poor installation practices. EIFS is not what is used in The Villages. The "stucco" is a concrete-like mixture that is applied directly on the concrete blocks.

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Originally Posted by Janie123 (Post 2158839)
Concrete block walls are more expensive to construct but add savings in termite and water damage possiblities. I believe insurance costs for block houses are lower. I think the siding/EIFS is a different discussion than block or stick framed. We do NOT have stucco homes in the US, they use Exterior Insulation and Finishing system. The upside to EIFS is additional insulation 1-2” over the outside of the block walls then a coating applied to the insulation. Also, with EIFS you can change colors when painting. Coming from Colorado, vinyl siding can be destroyed during a hail storm… probably not a problem here in FL. Also, siding can be applied to concrete block walls which I believe is TV building process… could be wrong.


Fastskiguy 11-19-2022 10:00 AM

Concrete block all the way, then you can make stretches and basically go crazy making it just the way you want.

Oh...wait....

Joe


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