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RedChariot 04-06-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 655011)
And that's a good thing.

Really??? Referring to TV possibly having more dogs than people.

gomoho 04-06-2013 06:30 PM

I think I believe you, but find it bizarre that all of us out here walking our dogs, which normally attract other dogs, never run into them? However, I would say if I lived in the south end in an undeveloped area I would proabably be guilty of letting my kids get some exercise, but I would also be there supervising and picking up the poop!

gustavo 04-06-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 655065)

Wow! That's pretty awful!


Sarcastiball or for real??

KeepingItReal 04-06-2013 06:39 PM

What Should Be Done About the Loose Dogs
 
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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 655074)
I think I believe you, but find it bizarre that all of us out here walking our dogs, which normally attract other dogs, never run into them? However, I would say if I lived in the south end in an undeveloped area I would proabably be guilty of letting my kids get some exercise, but I would also be there supervising and picking up the poop!


So what should be done about these loose dogs?

Apparently you have never been to Sanibel if you think this is an undeveloped area. Don't know what is meant by "I think I believe you"

The dogs owners home is directly behind the corn toss boards at the Captivia Rec. Center, the second house from the corner of Charlotte Street. Go out and me them yourself instead of just posting. Dogs are canine animals not kids.

Of course no doubt they thought we were in the wrong for walking on the sidewalk thru the picnic tables and shuffelboard courts...I will carry appropriate protection going forward.

skyc6 04-06-2013 06:41 PM

[quote=gustavo;655077]
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Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 655069)


Sarcastiball or for real??

Well, what is sarcastiball??

I was very sincere in my post. I live near there, and the thought of 2 large dogs, unleashed, coming at me growling is very awful, don't you think?

skyc6 04-06-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 655079)
So what should be done about these loose dogs?

Apparently you have never been to Sanibel if you think this is an undeveloped area. Don't know what is meant by "I think I believe you"

The dogs owners home is directly behind the corn toss boards at the Captivia Rec. Center, the second house from the corner of Charlotte Street. Go out and me them yourself instead of just posting. Dogs are canine animals not kids.

Of course no doubt they thought we were in the wrong for walking on the sidewalk thru the picnic tables and shuffelboard courts...I will carry appropriate protection going forward.

I can't say as I blame you! I live very near there and woud not want to encounter what you have had to deal with!
And, I agree, that Sanibel is not exactly the Wild West!! :)

CFrance 04-06-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 654803)
Some of you may take this lightly but people are finding dog poop on the golf courses, around postal stations , etc. There are a number of dogs roaming free. If it is not dealt with immediately and swiftly it is only going to get worse. Dog owners please keep it at home

We need dog ambassadors. Perhaps they can be an offshoot of community watch?:swear:

Two incidents of dogs running unleashed around their home is hardly an epidemic that "if not dealt with immediately and swiftly is going to get worse." Call the sheriff and report them. You know at least where one of the owners live.

But the statement of a number of dogs roaming free is an exaggeration. There is no dog epidemic of any sort in TV. We have more bad golf cart drivers than we have bad dog owners.

Barefoot 04-06-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 655077)
I was very sincere in my post. I live near there, and the thought of 2 large dogs, unleashed, coming at me growling is very awful, don't you think?

I think it is completely unacceptable to allow dogs to be off leash in a public place. I don't blame you for being upset. I feel sorry for these dogs, having such rude and inconsiderate owners. I don't understand the anti-social behavior of people who allow dogs to run loose, or throw cigarette butts on the golf course, or "save" front row seats at the town square and then never show up. But luckily, 99% of Villagers are wonderful, considerate people.

KeepingItReal 04-06-2013 07:05 PM

2 For Just Last Week
 
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 655084)
Two incidents of dogs running unleashed around their home is hardly an epidemic that "if not dealt with immediately and swiftly is going to get worse." Call the sheriff and report them. You know at least where one of the owners live.

But the statement of a number of dogs roaming free is an exaggeration. There is no dog epidemic of any sort in TV. We have more bad golf cart drivers than we have bad dog owners.

These 2 were just for this last week, there have been more on a regular basis. Dog near us is let out daily to run out to a public area in front of his home to relieve himself. Wanders around free all the time.

Reporting anything to the sheriff's office won't do anything, might as well just stick our heads in the sand and that will fix it.

Know these people are in the very small minority and most won't do such things but there is no way to identify the ones that will and those that won't.

skyc6 04-06-2013 07:06 PM

[quote=Barefoot;655090]
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Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 655080)

I think it is completely unacceptable to allow dogs to be off leash in a public place. I don't blame you for being upset. I feel sorry for these dogs, having such rude and inconsiderate owners. I don't understand the anti-social behavior of people who allow dogs to run loose, or throw cigarette butts on the golf course, or "save" front row seats at the town square and then never show up. But luckily, 99% of Villagers are wonderful, considerate people.

Yes, I agree that they are! I love The Villages and I love the many people I have met. We are very blessed to have this experience.

graciegirl 04-06-2013 07:24 PM

Why do I not ever see any of this awful stuff?

Today my large furry friend Mozart somehow talked his owner into taking him for a ride in their golf cart and stopping to see me. Mozart gave me his paw like a gentleman and didn't offer to kiss me. We are close friends but he has excellent manners. He did not get down from the passenger seat.

I saw Lucy walking by with her human and saw some other furry neighbors running by with their human on a recumbent bike. Prince went to the maildrop, but his human always has a bag, and Gracie is in Virginia right now.

That is my report from our Village for Today.

I don't have a pup of my own.

I don't see bad things with dogs.

I am very happy with how things are.

That picture I posted was not me in Rose Colored glasses. My age spots are in entirely different places.

CFrance 04-06-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 655094)
These 2 were just for this last week, there have been more on a regular basis. Dog near us is let out daily to run out to a public area in front of his home to relieve himself. Wanders around free all the time.

Reporting anything to the sheriff's office won't do anything, might as well just stick our heads in the sand and that will fix it.

Know these people are in the very small minority and most won't do such things but there is no way to identify the ones that will and those that won't.

Is there a leash law in your county? You know where this dog lives. If he's truly wandering around free all day, report the owners! Head in the sand will not fix it.

I go back to my original observation. I've never seen dogs roaming free in TV, especially unattended. These have to be isolated, neighborhood incidents, in which case somebody knows where these dogs live and can report the owners.

KeepingItReal 04-06-2013 07:47 PM

Just Saying It Happens
 
Sheriff won't do anything unless they see it, any other suggestions? Nothing is likely to change.

Just saying dogs running loose does happen and it happens a lot more often than most here in La La Land will ever admit.

I'm done.......

graciegirl 04-06-2013 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=graciegirl;655111]Why do I not ever see any of this awful stuff?

Today my large furry friend Mozart somehow talked his owner into taking him for a ride in their golf cart and stopping to see me. Mozart gave me his paw like a gentleman and didn't offer to kiss me. We are close friends but he has excellent manners. He did not get down from the passenger seat.

I saw Lucy walking by with her human and saw some other furry neighbors running by with their human on a recumbent bike. Prince went to the maildrop, but his human always has a bag, and Gracie is in Virginia right now.

That is my report from our Village for Today.

I don't have a pup of my own.

I don't see bad things with dogs.

I am very happy with how things are.

That picture I posted was not me in Rose Colored glasses. My age spots are in entirely different places

birdawg 04-06-2013 08:13 PM

I am amazed at how many people allow their dogs to walk at the mailboxes, and your right from what I see most pick up their dogs duty. But do you people realize the health risk's associated with a dogs waste. Even when feces is picked up traces are left behind, this is one way dogs and people contract Hookworm, roundworm and other parasites, would you walk shoeless in the grass in these area's? Then Fido jumps in the car or cart rides home and walk's in your homes. Love your pet and yourself but get smart.

Happinow 04-06-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 654808)
Just a thought: I've said this to friends and strangers---there is something for everybody in TV! BUT.....all this time I've been wrong. No dog free village. Just a thought----if a particular Village was designated as "dog free" (0wners/guests not allowed dogs) ----how fast would the homes sell?? Yep, then there would be something for everyone! :beer3:

I've thought of that myself. There are 7 houses around our culdesac and only 2 of the 7 homes have pets. So there is a need for pet free villages.

Grannynance 04-06-2013 08:32 PM

dog poop
 
It is a slow evening here at my house so i was reading the post about dog poop
To my friend jack, jack is almost 17now so i believe he has a lot of wisdom as people say that comes with age. Jack ask me if I could make a post in his behalf he doesn't want
To start a riot or hurt anyone but bear with him a bit. First of all jack does not like to ride in a car, go to the squares, not a fan of flea markets, (fleas are not very freindy they are
Looking for a ride and food), not a fan of any stores,, he hates to walk, and dog Parks are
for people to get together to gab. He used to like a golf cart ride, but he gave that up
He felt he didn't have a good seat and it was a little to fast. Now everyone will think jack
Is a stuck in the mud, but he really enjoyes when the Ms of the house get out her 3 wheel
bike with the large basket on the back puts in that large blanket and off they go ( that's high cotton) as for poop well he has it made there he has a fellow who has a shovel an
rake to take care of the area and nobody complains because everything it in his own yard.
When my friend leave the house I get a milk bone, I have the radio on and I have three
Very nice beds in three different room. So when by friends get ready to leave they ask
Me do you want to go my answer are you nuts, brother I got it made here two
squares a day, three beds, heat, air, and most all nobody to step or trip over me, and
No rope around my neck. So people the next time you go out that door just ask your
Best friend "you want to go" and if he could talk he or she would say I will be fine see you on the flip side.
No rope to hold me.

ilovetv 04-06-2013 08:33 PM

Several times as I have been entering or leaving Mulberry and Laurel Manor sport pools, I have seen people drive up on their golf cart with the dog, park the cart, and take the dog on the leash to dump a load on the lawn in front of the Laurel pool or on the lawn by the shuffleboard courts at Mulberry.

When I stared in disbelief (that people would drive their dog to a rec center lawn to dump on), they glared at ME like "what's your problem???"

My "problem" is: Why don't they have the dog dump on THEIR lawn, at home? Rec center and postal center lawns are not public manure yards!

CFrance 04-06-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Grannynance (Post 655163)
It is a slow evening here at my house so i was reading the post about dog poop
To my friend jack, jack is almost 17now so i believe he has a lot of wisdom as people say that comes with age. Jack ask me if I could make a post in his behalf he doesn't want
To start a riot or hurt anyone but bear with him a bit. First of all jack does not like to ride in a car, go to the squares, not a fan of flea markets, (fleas are not very freindy they are
Looking for a ride and food), not a fan of any stores,, he hates to walk, and dog Parks are
for people to get together to gab. He used to like a golf cart ride, but he gave that up
He felt he didn't have a good seat and it was a little to fast. Now everyone will think jack
Is a stuck in the mud, but he really enjoyes when the Ms of the house get out her 3 wheel
bike with the large basket on the back puts in that large blanket and off they go ( that's high cotton) as for poop well he has it made there he has a fellow who has a shovel an
rake to take care of the area and nobody complains because everything it in his own yard.
When my friend leave the house I get a milk bone, I have the radio on and I have three
Very nice beds in three different room. So when by friends get ready to leave they ask
Me do you want to go my answer are you nuts, brother I got it made here two
squares a day, three beds, heat, air, and most all nobody to step or trip over me, and
No rope around my neck. So people the next time you go out that door just ask your
Best friend "you want to go" and if he could talk he or she would say I will be fine see you on the flip side.
No rope to hold me.

I appreciate your feelings, Jack. You are 17, and when our Bear was 13, he was very content to stay at home if we went out. Now Crosby is just five, and his attitude is completely different. He's got this sixth sense and knows when we're heading for the door, and he beats us to it, rarin' to go.

Early in his life we learned not to let a dog develop separation anxiety, and the way you do that is to just walk out the door without stageing "The Big Good-bye." So therefore, Crosby endures our absences without panic. but that doesn't mean he likes them. We don't take him to the squares because we don't go there very much. We don't take him to restaurants much because he is 85 lbs, although the times we have done that, he has behaved perfectly. He was not happy riding in a friend's golf cart, so we don't do that. But we take him wherever we can, and he enjoys bring out an about. PetSmart and Petco are two of his faves.

So you, Jack, and Crosby are two different dogs with two different attitudes about going out with your owners. Just like all of us in TV are different. How you feel is right for you and your owner, Jack, and how Crosby feels is right for him and us.

The day will come when Croz will be too tired to go out with us. Until then, we accommodate him whenever it will be safest and most convenient for him to be with us. If he could at all be in jeopardy, we leave him at home.

Good heath and many more years to you, Jack. The person you own sounds great!

CFrance 04-06-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdawg (Post 655154)
I am amazed at how many people allow their dogs to walk at the mailboxes, and your right from what I see most pick up their dogs duty. But do you people realize the health risk's associated with a dogs waste. Even when feces is picked up traces are left behind, this is one way dogs and people contract Hookworm, roundworm and other parasites, would you walk shoeless in the grass in these area's? Then Fido jumps in the car or cart rides home and walk's in your homes. Love your pet and yourself but get smart.

Can't imagine a dog living in TV that isn't on some kind of heartworm prevention meds. It's essential year-round in FL. Most vets won't treat your pets if they're not vaccinated, unless it's an emergency.

The good meds protect against the worms you are referring to as well as heartworms. Your chances of picking some kind of worms up at the mailbox are slim to none, I would bet. But I still say the most responsible thing is to have your dog do its business in your own yard.

birdawg 04-06-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 655180)
Can't imagine a dog living in TV that isn't on some kind of heartworm prevention meds. It's essential year-round in FL. Most vets won't treat your pets if they're not vaccinated, unless it's an emergency.

The good meds protect against the worms you are referring to as well as heartworms. Your chances of picking some kind of worms up at the mailbox are slim to none, I would bet. But I still say the most responsible thing is to have your dog do its business in your own yard.

I agree with you about using your own yard, but I would not trust my or my dogs health to what other people may or may not do, Just a personal view

perrjojo 04-06-2013 09:27 PM

I do always pick up my dog poop but I will consider this a real issue when all of the nasty smokers stop throwing butts in my yard and other areas as well as polluting the air in public places. Poop may smell but second hand smoke KILLS.

CFrance 04-06-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by birdawg (Post 655192)
I agree with you about using your own yard, but I would not trust my or my dogs health to what other people may or may not do, Just a personal view

Good point.

Also... I don't know about anyone else's dog, but I find mine ignores feces but will sniff every single urine mark he runs across. I have heard that they can pick up actual vaccine particles through doing this. I don't mind if he sniffs here and there (it's his walk too), but when we cut across the Tamarind Grove mailbox park, which is a thru street between Tamarind Grove Run and Ansley, I keep him out of the yard area. Plus it would take us an hour to get through there as he "gathers information."

rubicon 04-06-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 654971)
Rubicon - what specific courses are you finding dog poop on? I have never found dog poop on a course, but plenty of cigarette and cigar butts. Have never seen or smelled dog poop at our mail station and see plenty of folks taking their pups their for a walk, and where are all these dogs running free - never witnessed that one either.

Bacall during February stepped in it :swear:

billethkid 04-06-2013 10:32 PM

I am going to start a new thread that addresses the 99% of us dog owners who do the right thing and follow the rules.

This thread deals with the minority of don't care rule breakers that have dogs.

Congratulations to the 99% that are responsible dog owners that have to view the negative commentary that, as usual, is presented as though it was a general condition.

The majority looses another one!

btk

CFrance 04-06-2013 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 655241)
I am going to start a new thread that addresses the 99% of us dog owners who do the right thing and follow the rules.

This thread deals with the minority of don't care rule breakers that have dogs.

Congratulations to the 99% that are responsible dog owners that have to view the negative commentary that, as usual, is presented as though it was a general condition.

The majority looses another one!btk

Thank you, btk

rmcpklinefelter 04-07-2013 07:39 AM

ditto, Thank you, btk

gomoho 04-07-2013 07:54 AM

Woof, woof:doggie:

Barefoot 04-07-2013 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 655241)
I am going to start a new thread that addresses the 99% of us dog owners who do the right thing and follow the rules. This thread deals with the minority of "don't care" rule breakers that have dogs. Congratulations to the 99% that are responsible dog owners that have to view the negative commentary that, as usual, is presented as though it was a general condition. The majority looses another one! btk

Well said btk. :ho:

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 655175)
The day will come when Croz will be too tired to go out with us. Until then, we accommodate him whenever it will be safest and most convenient for him to be with us. If he could at all be in jeopardy, we leave him at home.

I read the above posts to LolliPop and Biggins :doggie::doggie:. They're both smiling and clapping their paws.

Patty55 04-07-2013 08:28 AM

Y'know, there are a lot of places that don't allow dogs, maybe all the complainers would be happier in one of them.

Barefoot 04-07-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 654808)
Just a thought----if a particular Village was designated as "dog free" (Owners/guests not allowed dogs) ----how fast would the homes sell?

Well, that would really create a dog's breakfast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 655350)
Y'know, there are a lot of places that don't allow dogs, maybe all the complainers would be happier in one of them.


gomoho 04-07-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 655079)
So what should be done about these loose dogs?

Apparently you have never been to Sanibel if you think this is an undeveloped area. Don't know what is meant by "I think I believe you"

The dogs owners home is directly behind the corn toss boards at the Captivia Rec. Center, the second house from the corner of Charlotte Street. Go out and me them yourself instead of just posting. Dogs are canine animals not kids.

Of course no doubt they thought we were in the wrong for walking on the sidewalk thru the picnic tables and shuffelboard courts...I will carry appropriate protection going forward.


Please re-read my post as I said "if I lived in an undeveloped area south of 466a" never once mentioned anything about Sanibel.

If we would take the time to read and understand each other instead of jumping to conclusions maybe we would all get long much better.

buggyone 04-07-2013 09:22 AM

I just returned home yesterday from a 2 week Caribbean cruise and I took tours of many of the Caribbean islands. It was amazing to see the differences between The Villages and life on these islands. No leash laws on the islands (and definitely not "Villages-style dogs") No purebred dogs to be seen and the mongrels were walking and doing their thing wherever they pleased. Also trash along the roadways no matter where you looked - like plastic bags blown into the fences, cans and bottles alongside the streets, and even plastic bags and cigarette butts blowing around on the beaches.

Sure the dog poop is disgusting - but compared to other places, there is so little to complain about here in the beautiful Villages. Let's keep it beautiful!

BobnBev 04-07-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 655387)
Please re-read my post as I said "if I lived in an undeveloped area south of 466a" never once mentioned anything about Sanibel.

If we would take the time to read and understand each other instead of jumping to conclusions maybe we would all get long much better.

"Jumping to Conclusions" soon to be an Olympic sport.:evil6::evil6::evil6:

skyc6 04-07-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 655350)
Y'know, there are a lot of places that don't allow dogs, maybe all the complainers would be happier in one of them.

I don't think the OP was complaining about dogs, but rather about the dog owners who are falling down on the job!
Surely most dog owners would not enjoy living where dog poop was everywhere, and/or growling unleashed dogs were approaching walkers out and about.

Or would they? :ohdear:

CFrance 04-07-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 655515)
I don't think the OP was complaining about dogs, but rather about the dog owners who are falling down on the job!
Surely most dog owners would not enjoy living where dog poop was everywhere, and/or growling unleashed dogs were approaching walkers out and about.

Or would they? :ohdear:

I don't think Patty55 was talking about the OP, necessarily.

justjim 04-07-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 655515)
I don't think the OP was complaining about dogs, but rather about the dog owners who are falling down on the job!
Surely most dog owners would not enjoy living where dog poop was everywhere, and/or growling unleashed dogs were approaching walkers out and about.

Or would they? :ohdear:

:agree: Exactly!

DougB 04-07-2013 01:21 PM

Starting to get ugly in here. Although rather entertaining. Popcorn anybody?
:popcorn:

rubicon 04-07-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 655014)
I have absolutely NEVER seen a dog roaming around free anyplace I've gone in TV. Please post the instances you have seen, how many, and where.

I have, however, heard lots of coyotes out on our walks. Maybe you are mistaking one for the other.

TV must have the most coddled dogs in the US. People spend $$$$$ on their care. Nobody is going to let a dog out to roam.

This is the third time writing this post. I hit the space bar and half of what I keyboard disappears. Yea maybe its a lie.;)

I found poop on Becall, Belmont and Truman (stepped in it on Becall). I play early tee times and have seen owners let their dogs out on Belmont Truman, one championship course.

There is a difference between it doesn't happen to I never seen it. I mean I never seen a falling star.

This subject hits a nerve with many folks as evidenced by the fact that it keeps coming up and when it does it receives a lot of attention from those posting and those onlyreviewing the thread.And you are never going to be able to reason with animal lovers who feel very deeply about their pets placing them in the same category as human beings. To many of them there is no difference

graciegirl 04-07-2013 02:40 PM

It hits a nerve because people love their dogs and cats. People also love their kids. I love my kids but I knew danged well that other people were NOT programmed to love them so I did my very best to teach them to act in a way that was conducive to have people who were not their parents tolerate them and in some cases like them.

That included a lot of repeating, threats, bribes, corporal punishment and anything that would work...as my goal was to launch them into a world that would be a place that they would get along with others.

If everyone remembered that no one else is drawn toward their children or bonded to their animals and bent over backwards to see that their offspring and livestock didn't bother others....then we wouldn't have these threads.

To those who already do a good job, you know who you are and for those who don't, I already know you don't give a damn.


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