Re: Dog walkers on golf courses
 

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Smalldog sez the problem is training the dog owners as to what their end of the deal is( was it mentioned at the Newbie orientation, I don't remember ??? ) might be a good place to start ::) ...... you will never get ALL the people to act responsibly not to mention the 10 % ers who must beat the system ........ just ask the buffalo moms with new calves :'(

Re: Dog walkers on golf courses
 

Smalldog,

You're right there, and it applies to just about any subject. That 10% will always be a thorn in the side of the rest no matter how much publicity, training, hooting or hollering goes on! :)

Re: Dog walkers on golf courses
 

I love dogs. I love cats. Heck, I love critters. However, I don't love cleaning up after a dog that isn't mine. This used to be a major problem in one house in California. After cleaning up after the same dog for well over a month and talks to the owner were a waste of my breath, I got mean!

I patiently sat in my front yard with a water hose turned on (but not spraying). The second the dog stopped to leave me his present, I sprayed him. Three nights of this and that dog would circle around my house.

It's not the most fun thing to do, but it does work and if the owners don't like it, I'd suggest to them they walk their dog somewhere other than on a golf course. Maybe you can get a neighborhood brigade to do this. Poor dog will never want to walk in your direction again.

It really is a shame that some people just can't be responsible. It shouldn't be our job to get them to do what is right, but it frequently is.

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I agree, Red. It infuriates me when I see people allow their dogs to defecate on property other than their own. Even if the waste is cleaned up, residue may remain. That's another reason I never go barefoot. Hey Barefoot, I may have to change my log on name to "shoesalwayson". ;)

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Have to remember that the water in Villages garden hoses could cause an infection if it gets into a dog's ear though.

At least, in my Village the hose water is unfit to drink.

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Tal, I think the hose water is ok. It's different than the irrigation water. Waaaay different.
At least I hope it's different. Florida Pool and Spa use it in the pool and spa when they need some extra water. It even smells different. So far I don't have any ear infections. ;)

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I would assume that the hose water is potable? I thought just the irrigation system water is non-potable. Is that true? Anyone?

Good question!

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You are correct, Russ, irrigation water is non-potable, and in separate system of pipes.

Up north, I had a fire hydrant in my front yard. Always wanted to electrify that thing! 040

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Red, do ya love birds?????

Just thought I would get the circulation going this morning.

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I have been told not to drink the hose water and not to allow my dog to. Not sure how accurate that request was though.

It sounds like the water north of CR466 is the same both inside and outside the homes but south of CR466 the outside water is not safe to drink.

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Good to know - I'll keep my mouth off of the outside spigot!

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The hose water is potable. It is the irrigation system water that is not. (I called both TV and the water district to confirm this.)

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Hey Shoes ON ... I totally agree; and I have two dogs. People who allow their dogs to defecate on property they don't own are just rude, inconsiderate, unsanitary, and give the rest of us dog owners a bad name. That is one reason I am such a fan of enclosed dog parks. It benefits people who don't want dogs walked on their streets, as well as dog owners.

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I've got the most adorable parakeet and my neighbor has two beautiful canaries. The gal across the street has a lovely myna bird and the British couple has two budgies which friends keep when they must return to their motherland for 6 months and a day. Anyway, we strongly feel that the developer should install a series of "bird flies", hopefully one in each village. This would be an enclosed area large enough that we could bring our loving pets (who are like children to us) and allow them to fly free for a time without the constraints of small cages or leashes. It's only fair since we pay the same amenity fee as dog owners and we get nothing.

There are only two issues with this plan. First, the guy around the corner has a hawk, so he should really be kept in a separate bird fly from our more domestic animals else he'd tend to eat them. And second, we'd probably have to have a staff of fireman type guys to help owners retrieve the birds when it was time to leave, especially if the fly had some trees in it, as it likely should.

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Too funny Muncle! But at the risk of being reprimanded by Topicop I must ask you a couple of questions. 1. Do birds count toward the "no more than 2 pets rule"? I have cockatiels (2) and a parakeet(1) and a cat. (I can just imagine what you will come back with on that one). 2. I am concerned about getting a vet in TV that may have expertise with birds even if they are aren't an avian specialist. Any thoughts on this would be welcome.
Of course it makes no difference until we sell the house and can move to TV.
Thanks

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Still think this depends on what Village you are in as far as potable water from the hose is concerned. I am fairly certain that the hose water in Lynnhaven is not safe to drink without boiling. This Villages Daily Sun article backs that up-- http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/a...villages01.txt

"That’s because homes constructed south of County Road 466 come with two incoming water lines. One that supplies the tap water for inside, and another that carries stormwater and the less potable Lower Floridan aquifer water. At 12,000 homes and growing, numerous Villages residents are watering their lawns without stressing Florida’s underground water supply.

The Villages’ current water use permit granted by the Governing Board of the Southwest Florida Water Management District demands that only 31 percent come from the Upper Floridan aquifer, which is used for household consumption. The other 69 percent comes from the three alternative sources, which thrilled some members of the SWFWMD board when they discussed The Villages earlier in 2007."

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The irrigation systems south of 466 use recycled water. The water that comes to your hose is the household water.

The article did not say anything about hose water being from the recycled water. It is addressing the irrigation systems.

Drinking water from the garden hose is not a good idea because of the kind of materials used . . . "Most regular garden hoses can release small amounts of chemicals from their inner walls and fittings, which makes them unsafe for drinking water. . . Unless you purchase hose made from high-quality EPDM rubber and has been FDA-approved for potable water use."

Also, water that has been "resting" inside the "hot" hose may contain grow bacteria. It is not advisable to drink it, especially the first water coming out of it.

Hose water is OK to use to wash your car since it is not the re-claimed water.

Re: Dog walkers on golf courses
 

This thread is addressing the dog walkers on golf courses.

I would like to add that no one, except golfers should be using the golf cart paths or be walking onto the courses.

There are trail fees associated with golfing on both the executive and championship courses.

Even though villager residents pay ammenity fees and are "golf" members at all the country clubs, the country clubs and the championship courses properties themselves do not belong to them. It is my understanding that these properties are owned and operated by the developer and he can chose to sell them to anyone he may wish.

The championship courses are private property thus no one should be using them as their personal walking paths, jogging trails or transportation trails for their golf cart or bicycle at any time.

Dogs on courses.
 

I have not seen much of this but if I do I have a powerful pellet gun and will carry it should the need arise.

Dogs on Courses
 

Now there ya go. That'll stop 'em.....

As for the water in the garden hoses goes, I wonder do the Ambassadors get the water they put in the coolers round the courses, and the ones on their carts? Wanna bet it isn't bottled water?:ho:

I have personally communicated with the VCDD about this and it's true. That's why they have small tomb sign like notices to that effect at the entry to each golf trail.

The reason given was not connected with any fees paid, but rather a matter of safety, safety from flying golf balls.
I guess that should now include pellets from powerful pellet guns too! http://www.n44.co.uk/forum/Smileys/default/gun.gif

Hubby and I just moved in and were unaware that we were not allowed to walk on the paths on the golf courses in the evening when no one was playing. Twice we took a nice walk on the paths on the executive course that runs through Hadley and the funny thing was that we passed people sitting on their lanai's who waved at us, said hello and commented what a nice evening it was. I wish they would have told us we were not supposed to be walking there. Maybe larger signs indicating that only those playing golf are allowed on the paths at any time are warranted. We will make sure to stay off the paths in the future. Thanks for the heads-up!

In the early evening, just about dusk - it is very nice to take an evening walk on the golf cart path of Glenview. The golfers are gone for the night, the walk is usually cool, and the view of the egrets roosting in their trees is wonderful.

No one has ever questioned my being there - including some of the golf ambassadors who are quitting for the day and riding their carts back to the head shed. They always smile and greet us with a hello.

Of course, we would not do this in the daytime when golfers are around.

Once again, just apply common sense.

Old threads never die.:read:

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However, some should.

Several years ago, I was walking along the path on Oakleigh executive course just before dark. I never walked on the golf cart paths, but I could see lightening and I wanted to talk a shortcut home.

A woman came running out of her lanai waving her arms in the air and screeching at me. She came right up to my face and started mooing about how "Illegal" (illegal mind you) it was for people to walk on the golf course cart paths. Her booze breath was pronounced as she threatened to turn me in to the authorities.

When she was done with her rant, I said, "You don't understand, I'm with a search party that's looking for an old drunk woman who wandered away from home and is harassing people."

She didn't think it was as funny as I did. :1rotfl:

JLK

Talk host, you are always amusing us. :1rotfl::clap2: I never heard anyone use the term "mooing" and I am going to file it and bring it out later as my own creative speech.:ho:

I guess that that old drunk woman thought that she had paid extra for a golf view that included evening privacy. Not everyone would agree that walking along the cartpaths after the golfers had gone home was a bad thing,......unless it was after dark. (Tony, where is there a spooky, scarey creepy smilie??)

I agree with the person that said common sense is the best policy.

AND...I agree with PTurner. I always do. ALWAYS!!

According to Tony, this one will give you the "willies"....

PKlein,

For clarification, I think that would be part of Havana (Hemingway) course.

k

The rules on golf courses are the same everywhere. No recreational walkers-no dog walking - no playground activities -no bicycling, etc . In fact the only appropriate activity is golf. These rules are not just for the convenience of golfers, but are critical to safety. Golf balls typically travel at more than 100mph even when hit by old weak guys like me. Most people who use the course for purposes other than golf are just ignorant of the danger involved, but I have encountered some who are very beligerent. Postings on the course are helpful but they cannot be placed at every possible entry spot. Golfers would be doing violaters a service by asking them to leave the course and informing them of the dangers involved.

I was playing Heron one day a few months back. At the #4 par 4 a lady was walking a small dog along the cart parth just down from the tee boxes...middle of the day mind you. I tried to very kindly inform her, in case she wasn't aware, that she shouldn't be out there, that it was unsafe and for golfing traffic only. She gave me a dirty look and did not verbalize a reply. Oh well, I tried.

Walking in TV
 

I decided to winter in TV two years ago. I believe this was a good choice, in spite of my age. I started working in 1943 and retired in 2010. God has mercifully given me good health.

As part of my "search" process, I rented in three places....Iveystone (Woodbury), San Antonio (Rio Ponderosa), & Oleander (Sabal Chase). My 1st choice for an activity is walking..... I found that no area was really satisfactory, for a two mile walk. (except making the rounds of the road in the neighborhood. The walking trail from (Springdale to Mulberry) was great for me. It seems to me that this trail goes through a golf course and it is OK to walk on it. The golf-cart paths on the golf course looked very enticing to me to walk. But I digress. The Springdale fitness trail is great for walking, but the maintenance seems to me about at the level of a dog park. (No put down for the dogs)

In my search for a place to live, I had to walk on many golf cart paths, along to highways. I would consider the golf cart paths on the course to be much safer and certainly a nicer place to walk. Sabal Chase had sidewalks, but crossing Canal Street to go to the PO was an adventure.

Finally, I decided to locate in one of the villa's near Spanish Springs. Sidewalks are available to walk any place I want to go with the exception of the pool.

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In my search for a place to live, I had to walk on many golf cart paths, along to highways. I would consider the golf cart paths on the course to be much safer and certainly a nicer place to walk. [/QUOTE]

Walking on a golf course is extremely dangerous. The last thing a golfer expects to see is someone meandering along the cart path, with or without a mutt.
Golf balls are very difficult to control, especially for hackers such as me. Even the pros can't always put that little guy just where he or she wants. That's why we carry more than one ball.
If you'd like to continue to enjoy good health I'd suggest that you find another place to stroll.

You're correct, it is part of the Havana course! This is exactly the area I communicated with the VCDD & the Havanna CC about when I was seeking the safest path for me to take from my home to my mailbox on my mobility scooter.

The distance between my home and the mailbox is about one and a quarter mile one way and at the time I thought that it would be safer for me to use the restricted golf cart trail with a small risk of getting hit by a golf ball while between Havana Trail and Odell Circle than for me to spend part of my trip on Odell in the golf cart multi-model lane and be at risk of being hit by a golf cart or a motor vehicle.

The several people I communicated with at the VCDD and Havana CC were very nice and understood my concern. However, the bottom line is that the rules are the rules and that the paths are there for the golfers... and consequently not there for anyone to use by making their own exceptions to the rules. As such, my reducing my risks as explained above were no more of an excuse than it is for those who walk pets, take strolls in the evening or simply to enjoy the beauty of the birds in the trees!

After this all passed, I did learn that there was a short stretch of sidewalk (that I wasn't aware of) on Odell between the Odell Center and the restricted golf cart path cross-over on Odell Circle that made the Odell stretch to the mail center completely accessable by sidewalk, except for the cross-over. :D

After I return to TV in the fall, if you see me traveling on one of my speedy 4.5 or 5.5 mph scooters in Hadley, I'd be grateful if you didn't run me over... just smile and wave instead. I've appreciated those who have in the past and will like wise appreciate those who do in the future!
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Thank you, Skyguy, for understanding and abiding by the rules. Unfortunately there are many who think the rules apply to everyone except them. If I ever see you on your scooter I'll be sure to wave!

You'd have to couple that with a motion detecting targeting system.

Are there 'Dog Communities'?

You're welcome! BTW, since my scooters are equipped with front and rear lights, I'd consider sneeking on the paths when it's dark except for one thing... You never know if there might be a visually imparred foursome playing with beeping balls! :1rotfl:

Or...............a slumbering alligator.