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Taltarzac725 02-04-2019 11:05 PM
Sometimes the threat of a lawsuit is the only way to change people's behavior. This looks like a major lawsuit against that airline and the dog's owner as well as the airline employees involved in the decision-making.



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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1622097)
This whole dog in store, dog in church, dog in movie theater, dog in restaurant, dog in airplane, dog in… is totally out of control. Everyone wants to be PC and are afraid they are violating the ADA so everyone looks the other way. Some dog people, I have a good friend that is one, are completely clueless on the subject. But even my friend acknowledges when it comes to dogs she does not think rationally. A few years ago I got to watch a child bitten on the hand by a non-service dog (german shepard). The aircraft was boarding, the child was seated at the window on left side, the dog was at the window on the right side so child and dog were far apart. The dog literally bolted past his row, past the isle and bit the 6 yo on the hand – blood everywhere. Although it was on my airline, I still offered to be a witness for the mother. At least once a month I see a dog on leash at the airport pee or poop right in the middle of the terminal and the owner keeps walking. I don’t know when the madness will end.

kaydee 02-04-2019 11:34 PM
I think those who violate the “ service dog “ bull ought to hang their head & be ashamed by bringing fluffy in any public business. And you owe every disabled individual who truly has & needs a true service dog an apology. It is an insult to “claim” your little fluffy is a service dog..leave them home...and if you just can’t then you stay home with them.

Topspinmo 02-04-2019 11:54 PM
The ONLY dogs is any store except pet stores should dog for the blind.

DonH57 02-05-2019 12:26 AM
C'mon. Yes it may be embarrassing when you have to send fido in for a case of beer but some time you do what you got to do!

graciegirl 02-05-2019 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1622178)
C'mon. Yes it may be embarrassing when you have to send fido in for a case of beer but some time you do what you got to do!
Don Don Don.:1rotfl:

IndianaJones 02-05-2019 08:13 AM
Yes, but if my dog doesn't get to pick out his own food, he won't eat it! What's a father to do...

TheWarriors 02-05-2019 08:15 AM
Make it simple, just ban service dogs as well so the problem completely goes away. No dogs anywhere but your own home. What normal thinking person believes it’s ok for their dog to pee or poop on someone else’s property? Think they would be ok with me pizzing on their lanai? Hahahaha

TheWarriors 02-05-2019 08:34 AM
Of course I’m kidding about banning all real service dogs.

Bay Kid 02-05-2019 08:38 AM
No dogs around food would be common sense?

LuvtheVillages 02-05-2019 09:00 AM
It seems that store managers are reluctant to address this problem. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it. I'm not.

When I see a pet in a store, I politely remind the person that pets and comfort animals don't belong there. If it appears to be a service animal, it is legal to ask "What service does your animal perform for you?" If you get stuttering, you have your answer.

The offender may not leave, but I have made a point. If more people did this, perhaps it would help.

anothersteve 02-05-2019 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 1622236)
It seems that store managers are reluctant to address this problem. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it. I'm not.

When I see a pet in a store, I politely remind the person that pets and comfort animals don't belong there. If it appears to be a service animal, it is legal to ask "What service does your animal perform for you?" If you get stuttering, you have your answer.

The offender may not leave, but I have made a point. If more people did this, perhaps it would help.
I was sitting at the bar area of Amerikanos one night and a woman, drunk as a skunk sat next to me with her teacup dog on her lap. The bartender asked her to put her dog on the floor as pets are not allowed near the bar for sanitary reasons. She was asked three times and refused. She was quietly escorted out.
That's how it should be.
Steve

New Englander 02-05-2019 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1622174)
The ONLY dogs is any store except pet stores should dog for the blind.
:mademyday: :bigbow:

leftyf 02-05-2019 10:37 AM
Any shopping cart that had a dog riding in should be steamed cleaned before putting back into use.

Nucky 02-05-2019 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 1622236)
It seems that store managers are reluctant to address this problem. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it. I'm not.

When I see a pet in a store, I politely remind the person that pets and comfort animals don't belong there. If it appears to be a service animal, it is legal to ask "What service does your animal perform for you?" If you get stuttering, you have your answer.

The offender may not leave, but I have made a point. If more people did this, perhaps it would help.
I don't presently have a dog. I agree in full with the spirit of the common message throughout this thread. It's not good to see dogs in places where common sense would register with most people that the dogs don't belong.

However, unless a person has been Temporarily Deputized by The Sherriff Of Mayberry then Don't act like Barney Fife in a store towards anyone with an "Illegal" animal. Just notify the Store Manager, that's why they are there. I would never directly confront anyone, anymore unless they confronted me. I found out People In Florida Carry Concealed Weapons. Big Weapons Too!

If you did this with me it wouldn't be me who would be stuttering and it wouldn't be my dog either. I choose to not live this way anymore :pray: but I Give Heart Attacks, I Don't Get Them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-05-2019 05:28 PM
"Comfort animals" are not service dogs. The general rule of thumb is: four on the floor, and kept to a short leash. If they're carried in, rolled in a stroller, not leashed, or on one of those expand-a-leashes, they are not on-duty service animals and not allowed in the store. It's illegal to require someone to produce proof that their animal is a service animal. However it is well within the law to require that their dog be a) leashed, 2) kept on the floor at all times, 3) behaved, and 4) in close physical proximity to the person at the other end of the leash at all times.

Since you don't even have to ask anyone "is that a service dog?" you bypass the potential for discrimination against the disabled when you tell the customer he has to remove his animal from the premises. If the dog is not behaving or disrupting business in any way, if the dog is not walking on his own, and not leashed, then the store manager has the absolute right to kick the dog and its owner out of the store.


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