I think this fight was fueled by the political forum some time ago. I think that it is very hard as we age, and become convinced of our views to have the patience and acceptance for others who do not agree with us in politics and in religion. I think I become impatient when a spade is not called a spade.

I believe that you are taking each other on, some of you, on this thread because of old wounds from that old political forum.

You cannot make a liberal think like a conservative and you can't make a conservative think like a liberal.

I think there is some hope in changing a moderate's mind.

Come on boys, calm down.

Gracie, the moderate.

Golfingnut - after a that I just want to give you a HELL YEA!!!

Thank you and that is exactly what I said and do. I occasionally have a couple bud lights and take offense to indications toward mental illness for doing so. That's crazy. LOL just trying to keep it light.

Hell yeah.

Whatever.

Carry on.

Need some ice over here and a fresh bottle of pop.

Very well said. I left the old forum behind and pray others will eventually do the same. Thanks for calling a heart a heart.

Forgive me, Bucco, but I don't understand why it should be OK to drink but not OK to be light hearted about it. You can pretty much pick a subject and someone will have an experience that was negative. As another poster said (Gracie, I think), we're all adults. We can drink if we want, and we can joke around about it. There was no harm intended from Golfingnut, I'm sure. None of the first posters meant to bring up old hurts, but people can't be expected to walk on egg shells. I maintain when the tone of the thread was obviously lighthearted, it would have been best to walk away and let the members who were enjoying it have at it.

As an alternative, anyone could start their own thread about the perils of drinking, if one feels that strongly about it.

Yes. You nailed it. Thank you. I absolutely meant it to be a fun conversation. Gracie also opened my eyes to the why factor. I think she is spot on with her post. I drink my two beers and I will not be ashamed of myself for doing so.

One more time,...and I hope someone actually reads this.

I understood the OP, and how he feels differently after a few drinks.

A poster, not me, had a problem because of some personal things, NOT WITH DRINKING...AGAIN...NOT WITH DRINKING, but with frivolity connected with the ..and I will not use a descriptive word..but with the affects on your mind

I posted to support that post.

At that point I think it is done except for some reason folks began to mock posts like that...no fun, lecturing, etc.

I made the mistake of responding because I object to being mocked and being called judgemental, etc when that never happened.

I never said any harm was intended at any time,nor even implied that.

That is pretty much all there is.

Judging by some of the posts on this thread, I don't think everyone is fully aware of the seriousness of alcoholism.

Genes alone don't cause Alzheimer's. The Alzheimer's gene has to be triggered by some behavior like drinking, smoking, overeating to the point of becoming overweight, or something in the environment.

I never said that everything can be avoided by eating a healthy diet. But a high percentage of degenerative diseases ARE caused by poor lifestyle habits. Those who doubt this are very likely already taking medications for some of these health issues.

Are you speaking for everyone, or just yourself? I think you're speaking for yourself and you don't expect to live much longer. Maybe I should say "goodbye".


"Relax and enjoy a few more things" comes across as very condescending, as if I'm not relaxed and not enjoying anything. So pardon me if I don't think you mean it "kindly and most sincerely."

Geez a thread that started out as fun and good natured kidding between members has turned into lectures on drinking,eating,and picking on people.

What a shame.

I love you Gracie and I know you to be very honest and straight forward. Don't you dare let anyone make you feel bad. I am used to it, but you don't deserve it at all. I will try to respond to them so they will stop picking on the rest of you.

Here we go: I am a beer drinker. It must be Post Traumatic Viet Nam Syndrome that drove me to this life of constant brain fog. But since I am so disabled mentally, do you think it is nice to pick at me?

We are in the midst of planning a "Welcome Home, Snowbird" party!

Fiesta cancelled their Karaoke this Saturday for some crazy Ohio State Buckeye club. We are meeting at Evans Prairie at 5:00.

That's very good news. Let's party! :pepper2:

Sounds like a plan to me. I will check with the boss and hope to see ya there.