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mkjelenbaas 02-08-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Softball77 (Post 2058291)
Anyone else driving on Morse, Buena Vista or El Camino feel like they wake up in the Twilight Zone? Meaning feeling like you are caught in the middle of the Daytona 500? Cars used to go maybe 40ish and now 50 to 60. Nevermind "racing" you through the roundabouts. And the money spent on diagramming proper lane usage in the roundabouts. And what happened to "Right turn, Right lane" and "Left turn. Left lane"? Tailgating is ridiculous too. Not sure what happened to "Florida's Friendliest Home Town".

To answer your question - no. Thank you

golfing eagles 02-08-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Softball77 (Post 2058291)
Anyone else driving on Morse, Buena Vista or El Camino feel like they wake up in the Twilight Zone? Meaning feeling like you are caught in the middle of the Daytona 500? Cars used to go maybe 40ish and now 50 to 60. Nevermind "racing" you through the roundabouts. And the money spent on diagramming proper lane usage in the roundabouts. And what happened to "Right turn, Right lane" and "Left turn. Left lane"? Tailgating is ridiculous too. Not sure what happened to "Florida's Friendliest Home Town".

Often it is the Twilight Zone. Yesterday, leaving Pinellas to continue through the RB to Moyer, the car ahead of us took the right lane/ outside lane entry to the RB, immediately cut across to the inner lane nearly missing the person who entered from the left lane and was foolish enough to get alongside, then cut right back into the outer lane, just missing the idiot who entered from Morse northbound without waiting for traffic in BOTH lanes of the RB to pass, then proceeded down Moyer. He got to the left turn lane for the neighborhood market, and put his RIGHT turn signal on to turn left. As we passed we saw he was driving alone with a mask on. My wife termed this the "trifecta" of driving stupidity.

golfing eagles 02-08-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by boobear51751 (Post 2058821)
The police are not doing their job in policing our roadways. I very seldom see them out there issuing tickets. If they would just set a speed check once a month in a different area (without notice) and nail everyone one of these self centered drivers with a citation things would change. The slogan, "The Friendliest Home Town," died a number of years ago. It was never like this 15 to 20 years ago.

I've only been here 8 years, so are you saying that 15-20 years ago this was a police state and you wish it were that way again???? No thank you. And while personally I don't speed, I would be hesitant to call someone going 36 on BV or 20.1 in a cart lane "self-centered"

BTW, it is still America's Friendliest Hometown---it's just that after a speeder runs you off the road into a ditch, they give you a friendly Villages wave:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Psacc0 02-08-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Softball77 (Post 2058291)
Anyone else driving on Morse, Buena Vista or El Camino feel like they wake up in the Twilight Zone? Meaning feeling like you are caught in the middle of the Daytona 500? Cars used to go maybe 40ish and now 50 to 60. Nevermind "racing" you through the roundabouts. And the money spent on diagramming proper lane usage in the roundabouts. And what happened to "Right turn, Right lane" and "Left turn. Left lane"? Tailgating is ridiculous too. Not sure what happened to "Florida's Friendliest Home Town".

The people behind me never speed??
:1rotfl:

Worldseries27 02-08-2022 09:13 AM

Book em denno
 
We will all be talking about the good old days when drones will be issuing the summonses from above a la the red light cameras.

chery 02-08-2022 09:17 AM

Absolutely. Have resorted to taking the backroads to any destination. Longer drive, but safer and more scenic. Main roads are an accident waiting to happen. Have witnessed 3 in the last month!

Pgcarmi 02-08-2022 09:28 AM

Setting Reasonable Speed Limits
 
In my opinion, the reason that we see so much speeding in The Villages is that the speed limits have been set artificially slow. From an engineering perspective, proper speed limits are set (barring special circumstances)(schools, hospitals, etc..) by allowing traffic to flow with no set speed limit and monitoring actual speeds taken. Once the data is assembled, it is customary to set the speed limit at the 85th percentile of the speed that people actually chose to travel. There are many documents available that explain this concept.

The forum won't allow me to link to a document that explains this concept, so if you are interested, google "Setting Speed Limits 85 Percentile Method"

When speed limits are set too slow such that they make no sense for the type of road, people simply ignore them. Now, you can temporarily force compliance by enforcement, but when enforcement ends, so does compliance.

Morse and Buena Vista are two lane each way divided roadways with limited access at clearly marked traffic circles. 30 MPH is a silly speed limit. In most municipalities, this road would be 45 MPH with recommended speed reductions into the traffic circles. I bet that if someone today performed a speed study on the road (without enforcement) we would find that 45 MPH is the 85th percentile.

Likewise, 30 MPH on feeder roads in the neighborhoods where no driveways exist are other silly speed limits. With clearly marked intersections, limited driveways, turn lanes, and no residential driveways, these speed limits in other areas of the USA would be in the 40 MPH range. Again, a speed study would probably show this.

The 25 MPH speed limit in the housing areas where residential driveways intersect is a standard in many parts of the USA and they are reasonable.

People aren't in a rush. They just don't want to waste time going artificially slow when it isn't necessary. It would be nice if government here set the speed limits based on established engineering principals rather than what someone "feels" is appropriate.

collie1228 02-08-2022 09:40 AM

There is little or no speed enforcement on Morse Blvd. Sumter Co. Sheriff Dept. has an enormous number of police cars, but I see one on Morse maybe once a month. It's simple, if there is no enforcement, there will be more speeders.

Waltdisney4life 02-08-2022 09:44 AM

You’re right this place sucks let’s move back north who’s with me? Just what I thought not one taker, I guess it’s not as bad as complain or say it is!

am.zinger@aol.com 02-08-2022 10:01 AM

I go out of my way just so I won't have to use that one.

GOLFER54 02-08-2022 10:06 AM

Can’t wait for flying cars :-)

ThirdOfFive 02-08-2022 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Softball77 (Post 2058291)
Anyone else driving on Morse, Buena Vista or El Camino feel like they wake up in the Twilight Zone? Meaning feeling like you are caught in the middle of the Daytona 500? Cars used to go maybe 40ish and now 50 to 60. Nevermind "racing" you through the roundabouts. And the money spent on diagramming proper lane usage in the roundabouts. And what happened to "Right turn, Right lane" and "Left turn. Left lane"? Tailgating is ridiculous too. Not sure what happened to "Florida's Friendliest Home Town".

Heh. Twilight Zone. It does sometimes feel that way. But it is erroneous to think that all the drivers on the roads mentioned are Villagers. Those roads are public and are used by whomever. I've seen a few Mustangs on El Camino Real driving it like they were in the Monaco Grand Prix, but the brief glimpses of the driver(s) that I've gotten have revealed people much younger than what you'd expect a Villager to be.

That's not to say that there are not Villagers who are sinless when it comes to driving. But it's usually things like changing lanes in a roundabout, coasting through red lights, tailgating, things like that.

VApeople 02-08-2022 11:07 AM

I am a slow driver who almost never exceeds the 35 mph speed limit on Morse or Buena Vista. I find it very enjoyable driving in The Villages.

Of course, we have to really pay attention in roundabouts. I always have my hand on the horn and honk at people on a regular basis.

A few days I honked at a driver who was not giving me the right of way when I was exiting a roundabout, so he stopped and I was able to go around him.

At a different roundabout, I honked at another driver who was not giving me the right of way, but he ignored me and kept driving. I kept honking, of course, but I slowed down and let him go. Since I drive slowly, I can easily adjust to the more aggressive drivers.

Joelack99 02-08-2022 11:16 AM

So this seems to be happening everywhere, not just in The Villages. We are in Atlanta most of the time. My wife and I were discussing just this morning g that it seems like everyone has forgotten how to be nice to their neighbors. Everyone is out for themselves and when behind the wheel of a 300hp vehicle they are just determined to get wherever they are going first. It’s funny in The Villages where we really didn’t have anywhere we had to be in the first place.

Be kind to your neighbor.

MrFlorida 02-08-2022 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2058645)
How many years will that take??

Not long, I guess you weren't here last summer were you ? They got a lot of speeders on Morse and Buena Vista..


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