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Dennis and Rose 08-01-2014 04:08 PM
The Police in the modern era, do not have the latitude or discretion, available to them as when we were kids. In a bar, theatre, or other private locations. They cannot be bouncers to throw some jerk(s) out of the place, or they may face a civil suit. There must be charges filed. Disorderly conduct, harassment, ect. There must be a complainant in or on a private premise. If they do not plead out at arraignment, the complainant must be available for possible testimony. The theatre manager should be the complainant in this case, as he is responsible for the premise. When I was a kid, if the Police Officer said move, you moved.

Chazz 08-01-2014 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis and Rose (Post 917005)
... When I was a kid, if the Police Officer said move, you moved.

I agree. And, if you were really out of line, you got a nightstick across the back of your thighs. You wouldn't complain to your parents because you would be punished by them.

Neal2tire 08-02-2014 12:53 AM
One of our residents just got six months for being drunk and disorderly AND a few more details. If the manager was not a coward AND if you had called 911 I can guarantee these two creeps would have been taken out in handcuffs. DRUNK in public tossing cans on the floor is a crime. Not a major crime but a crime. So is littering and Jwalking.
The right cop and a dozen angry residents speaking up would have put these knuckledragging fools in the back seat of a patrol car. Fact.

Taltarzac725 08-03-2014 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Neal2tire (Post 917179)
One of our residents just got six months for being drunk and disorderly AND a few more details. If the manager was not a coward AND if you had called 911 I can guarantee these two creeps would have been taken out in handcuffs. DRUNK in public tossing cans on the floor is a crime. Not a major crime but a crime. So is littering and Jwalking.
The right cop and a dozen angry residents speaking up would have put these knuckledragging fools in the back seat of a patrol car. Fact.
The few more details like breaking probation and sex on the square are probably what did it.

nitehawk 08-03-2014 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 917944)
The few more details like breaking probation and sex on the square are probably what did it.
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Taltarzac725 08-03-2014 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 918004)
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He is referring to Peggy Klemm. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ars-court.html

If I had seen a couple going at it at the Lake Sumter Square Pavillion at 10:30 PM unless there were kids around I would not have said anything to anyone just gone on my way. If they were fighting then I would call 911 but not for....

The Mountaineer 08-03-2014 09:54 AM
Ah, Judge Judy. Today's TV King Solomon!
 
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 916471)
If the two younger people were very loud, drunk, and very disruptive, you should gave gone to the lobby and told the manager if they were not ejected that you would call 911 - and followed through on the action.

Asking for a refund AND wanting to stay is ridiculous. Either they were SO annoying that you had to leave or you stayed. You stayed and should not get anything.

You cannot eat the steak and then complain it was inedible. (Judge Judy 101)
We watch Judge Judy and "my America" daily. Common-sense judge who sniffs out scams against taxpayers every day. Great entertainment! As for the theater buffoons: Go to the manager, dial 911 when he/she refuses to toss out the miscreants on their ears. The 20somethings came into the theater for the very purpose of disrupting senior citizens, and succeeded because no one had the gumption to prevent it. 911 is meant for such purposes.

manaboutown 10-17-2014 09:17 AM
Looks like Peggy is getting an early release, one minute past midnight on October 31. I will refrain from Halloween related comments at this point. Maybe she is getting out early for good behavior. She was working in the laundry while incarcerated. I hope she can remain clean after she is released.

Taltarzac725 10-17-2014 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 954145)
Looks like Peggy is getting an early release, one minute past midnight on October 31. I will refrain from Halloween related comments at this point. Maybe she is getting out early for good behavior. She was working in the laundry while incarcerated. I hope she can remain clean after she is released.
That's good to hear.

graciegirl 10-17-2014 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 954145)
Looks like Peggy is getting an early release, one minute past midnight on October 31. I will refrain from Halloween related comments at this point. Maybe she is getting out early for good behavior. She was working in the laundry while incarcerated. I hope she can remain clean after she is released.
I wonder if they will move away.

tomwed 10-17-2014 10:10 AM
I would have demanded a refund and left with all my relatives. The theatre has to provide a safe, quiet environment. Everyone should have walked out. I refuse to put up with anyone's BS or get angry anymore. It's not worth it.

Have you been to San Francisco in the last few years? I was there 3 years ago on vacation staying in a Youth Hostel with my son and his college friends. While they were in a conference I went sightseeing. Everyday, many times a day I would be approached by panhandlers. It was hard to tell who was harmless. I feel very, very safe here but not there.

Sandtrap328 10-17-2014 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 954179)
I would have demanded a refund and left with all my relatives. The theatre has to provide a safe, quiet environment. Everyone should have walked out. I refuse to put up with anyone's BS or get angry anymore. It's not worth it.

Have you been to San Francisco in the last few years? I was there 3 years ago on vacation staying in a Youth Hostel with my son and his college friends. While they were in a conference I went sightseeing. Everyday, many times a day I would be approached by panhandlers. It was hard to tell who was harmless. I feel very, very safe here but not there.


What does panhandling in San Francisco have to do with this post? Also, if I went to Frisco with my son, I would stay at a Hyatt or Marriott and NOT in a youth hostel!

Warren Kiefer 10-17-2014 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sandtrap328 (Post 954240)
what does panhandling in san francisco have to do with this post? Also, if i went to frisco with my son, i would stay at a hyatt or marriott and not in a youth hostel!
i didn't get the connection either ..

tomwed 10-17-2014 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 954240)
What does panhandling in San Francisco have to do with this post? Also, if I went to Frisco with my son, I would stay at a Hyatt or Marriott and NOT in a youth hostel!
Have you ever been in a public place and been bothered by a stranger? In some places like San Francisco that happens all the time. It's dangerous. It rarely happens here. It's not even worth getting angry. You can easily walk away.

My son and I were on a cross country trip. We enjoy each other’s company and could not afford the places you can afford. We have gone on many father/son trips. He picked out the Youth Hostel. It was his treat. He felt good showing me off to his friends. The Youth Hostel itself wasn't dangerous. It was right next to the Tenderloin District and we didn't know any better. He spent the first 4 years of his PHD program at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore and the last 2 at Stanford. I lent him my new Forrester and used his beat up Corolla until he graduated. That was the impetus of the trip. I flew home.

And why do I owe you an explanation?

Sandtrap328 10-17-2014 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 954365)
Have you ever been in a public place and been bothered by a stranger? In some places like San Francisco that happens all the time. It's dangerous. It rarely happens here. It's not even worth getting angry. You can easily walk away.

My son and I were on a cross country trip. We enjoy each other’s company and could not afford the places you can afford. We have gone on many father/son trips. He picked out the Youth Hostel. It was his treat. He felt good showing me off to his friends. The Youth Hostel itself wasn't dangerous. It was right next to the Tenderloin District and we didn't know any better. He spent the first 4 years of his PHD program at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore and the last 2 at Stanford. I lent him my new Forrester and used his beat up Corolla until he graduated. That was the impetus of the trip. I flew home.

And why do I owe you an explanation?
I was in Frisco last October and saw panhandlers by Pier 39 area. None were agressive but they can be in places. I still would have stayed at the Hyatt.

I did not ask for an explanation. I merely stated I did not see any connection with the OP and still do not.

John_W 10-17-2014 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 954365)
He spent the first 4 years of his PHD program at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore and the last 2 at Stanford...
I'm surprised you let Baltimore off easy, they have a ton of homeless people and about 300 homicides a year. I guess it all depends on what area of town you're in, maybe that could be the said for San Fran.

redwitch 10-17-2014 04:23 PM
And don't call it Frisco! Sheesh!!!!!!

Chi-Town 10-17-2014 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 954400)
And don't call it Frisco! Sheesh!!!!!!
Check this out.


http://www.thebolditalic.com/article...co-s-nicknames

tomwed 10-17-2014 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 954385)
I'm surprised you let Baltimore off easy, they have a ton of homeless people and about 300 homicides a year. I guess it all depends on what area of town you're in, maybe that could be the said for San Fran.
The Villages is so much safer than Baltimore too. I let them off easy.
Is that your point?

CFrance 10-17-2014 09:54 PM
Why is it PIC to call it Frisco and yet people still say Philly? Even the police use @PhillyForce.

tomwed 10-17-2014 10:02 PM
Philly people are easy going and not easily upset. :)

Steve & Deanna 10-18-2014 03:41 AM
Drunk and disorderly.....
 
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Originally Posted by boomerbaby (Post 916646)
My husband and I were at that show 5:10 and saw and heard it all. They were 2 rows behind us and when they walked passed us it smelled like a brewery. I thought one of them was going to fall down the stairs he was so unsteady. They came in that way and I could not believe that they let them in when they ripped their ticket they had to see the way they were and had to smell them. A month ago 2 other young guys came in and as they were going to their seat they were yelling and making a scene I was frightened and did tell the usher he thanked me but nothing was done. One guy actually fell asleep the rest of the movie. Both times it has been the old mill theatre. I thank your wife for complaining because when he came back in I was going to go out and complain if there was anymore nonsense but he must have gotten his friend and they both left and never came back. I am going to stop down there this week and ask to see the manager and make sure she is aware this has happened twice. I am also going to ask her why ushers arent coming in the movie a couple of times and actually walking up the stairs and checking the theatre out. They always do that in ny.
Perhaps the ushers should be bouncers.

lynxville 10-18-2014 06:14 AM
I stopped going to the movie theater years ago for this very reason. Some people talk through the entire movie. I'll watch movies in the private and quiet living room of my home.

Chatbrat 10-18-2014 07:42 AM
Sooner or later they're going to get into a motor vehicle @ that time the they're fair game for a DUI--follow them and get their tag #

redwitch 10-18-2014 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 954515)
Why is it PIC to call it Frisco and yet people still say Philly? Even the police use @PhillyForce.
Think you answered your own question. San Franciscans don't call The City Frisco. Never have, doubt they ever will. Philadelphians call Philly Philly. Kind of like calling someone who prefers Katherine Kathy. Tis rude.

NECHFalcon68 10-18-2014 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 954515)
Why is it PIC to call it Frisco and yet people still say Philly? Even the police use @PhillyForce.
It's easier to spell....and better than other nicknames I have heard over the years...

The Mountaineer 10-19-2014 04:44 PM
Ah, a fellow Judge Judy fan.
 
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 916471)
If the two younger people were very loud, drunk, and very disruptive, you should gave gone to the lobby and told the manager if they were not ejected that you would call 911 - and followed through on the action.

Asking for a refund AND wanting to stay is ridiculous. Either they were SO annoying that you had to leave or you stayed. You stayed and should not get anything.

You cannot eat the steak and then complain it was inedible. (Judge Judy 101)
She is funnier than Seinfeld.

Going to the lobby and giving the manager a choice of ejecting the louts, or even calling the cops himself/herself, might have been the best way to go. In this day and age, people never know when objecting to misbehaving people will result in a bullet or knife to the chest. Damn shame.

tcxr750 10-19-2014 08:31 PM
I think calling the police would have been the way to go. I'm surprised that in a theater full of people that no one called. The police are trained how to deal with drunken and disorderly behavior. It would be interesting to call the local police department and find out what their response would have been even after the fact.
The theater manager's response is even more incredible. What if one of the drunkards started throwing beer cans and someone was injured? Not many in the audience would hesitate to make that first call to lawyer!


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