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ColdNoMore 09-01-2016 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1281713)
I can't help with the statue, but if you're a regular reader of the Sun like I am. At least once a month a golf cart driver, usually in the SS area, is arrested for driving a golf cart on a suspended or revoked driver's license. Usually they are in their 30's or 40's and are living with their parent or parents.

I can see it if it is a cart path on the side of a road or even in a neighborhood while driving down the street, but the statement read (or at least I took it to mean) that it would apply even on the MMP's.

That was my primary question.

John_W 09-01-2016 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1281717)
I can see it if it is a cart path on the side of a road or even in a neighborhood while driving down the street, but the statement read (or at least I took it to mean) that it would apply even on the MMP's.

That was my primary question.

The word in TV is, on MMP the police will and can ticket for DUI but not speeding. They will even give out a DUI for sitting in your cart at the square with the engine off but drinking a beer. That doesn't answer your question, but to get to and from the MMP in the historic district wouldn't the driver have to navigate on the city streets for a some distance. So going to and from from path he would be under police jurisdiction regarding suspended license laws.

dewilson58 09-01-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1281624)
Although one does not need a DL to drive a golf cart, one whose license has been revoked is not allowed to drive anything with a motor/engine.

Wow............not even my riding lawn mower in my yard??? Quite a reaching statement......I say BS.

Harry Gilbert 09-01-2016 04:01 PM

Florida revoked license statue

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Florida definition of a motor vehicle

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Taken from florida legislature definitions

(77) STREET OR HIGHWAY.—

(b) The entire width between the boundary lines of any privately owned way or place used for vehicular travel by the owner and those having express or implied permission from the owner, but not by other persons, or any limited access road owned or controlled by a special district, whenever, by written agreement entered into under s. 316.006(2)(b) or (3)(b), a county or municipality exercises traffic control jurisdiction over said way or place;



(26) GOLF CART.—A motor vehicle designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes.

kstew43 09-01-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Riccckkk (Post 1281643)
Are many people still using this path?

when we made the long trip to Walmart from Fernandina last week......there were so many carts going to and from.

Everyone just past each other on the makeshift dirt road that doesn't add up to more than 2 football fields..IMHO in length, manuvering around some holes and making there way.

Rollie 09-10-2016 06:09 PM

Are people still using this path? Anyone been arrested?

Allegiance 09-10-2016 07:50 PM

Using it as usual. An additional 12mph sign was added exactly half way through that path.

chuckinca 09-10-2016 08:12 PM

I believe the 12 MPH sign(s) have been installed by the roadway builders - not Duke.

(with all the pot holes and ruts it would be hard to go any faster)(but it is still a major improvement over what was there before the roadway builders did their thing)

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Nucky 09-10-2016 08:51 PM

The signs were never meant to discourage golf carts. The sign on the left is telling you to not go behind the fence into the 50 billion jiggawatt electrical contraption and the sign on the right is so if you get tempted to climb the fence to walk in the retention basin that you would not do it because both would be considered trespassing. The 12 MPH signs are yellow and bright and shiney and are there to advise everyone to not speed. A whole lot of nothing for nothing. There are several bags hung from telephone poles for trash so we may be good neighbors. Oh I almost forgot about the young fellow who cut me off, beat me back to the entrance gate to Country Club Hills and forgot his pass card and wanted to use mine....not a chance. He did use the one of a person behind us by trying to race several inches from the back of her cart....he almost made it...thankfully he didn't hit the nice lady but I'm sure he did $1000 worth of damage to his cart and mangled the gate. It clearly says one cart at a time. Boy was he heated. Free entertainment.

rustyp 09-11-2016 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1286693)
The signs were never meant to discourage golf carts. The sign on the left is telling you to not go behind the fence into the 50 billion jiggawatt electrical contraption and the sign on the right is so if you get tempted to climb the fence to walk in the retention basin that you would not do it because both would be considered trespassing. The 12 MPH signs are yellow and bright and shiney and are there to advise everyone to not speed. A whole lot of nothing for nothing. There are several bags hung from telephone poles for trash so we may be good neighbors. Oh I almost forgot about the young fellow who cut me off, beat me back to the entrance gate to Country Club Hills and forgot his pass card and wanted to use mine....not a chance. He did use the one of a person behind us by trying to race several inches from the back of her cart....he almost made it...thankfully he didn't hit the nice lady but I'm sure he did $1000 worth of damage to his cart and mangled the gate. It clearly says one cart at a time. Boy was he heated. Free entertainment.

FYI - one needs the pass card to exit from The Villages. If someone asks you to let them in coming from Lowes path they knew they had forgot their card before exiting.

rubicon 09-11-2016 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1281717)
I can see it if it is a cart path on the side of a road or even in a neighborhood while driving down the street, but the statement read (or at least I took it to mean) that it would apply even on the MMP's.

That was my primary question.

The cart paths on roads are called diamond lanes. And if you drive enough of them you will determine that some car drivers can't resist but breach the white solid lines that divide the cart lane from the right car lane. This is especially true along Rio Grande, Delmar, etc.

A man killed in a traffic accident while driving a golf cart on Morse made a left turn from the diamond lane and was in a collision with a vehicle. This guy had a heart attack. I do not recall that the papers every reported if he died because of the accident or the heart attack.

The guy who had severe sight problems and was from Oxford was traveling on a multi-modal path and hit a pedestrian. As a result of this accident I contacted Community Watch and discussed the suggestion that The Village ought to issue village ID tags at the same time they issued ID cards . They told me back then that it was being discussed. Apparently someone felt it unnecessary or its still in discussion. I still believe it is a sound idea and one that is not that expensive and has many enforcement and identification benefits.

Clearly if a person has a medical condition such that driving a vehicle creates an increased hazard, the same as such causes as speed and the greatest in mind cause for accident " driver inattention" In fact health may be a greater cause for concern.

I had the unfortunate task of taking the car keys away from my mother when she developed Alzheimer's and what lessen the guilt for me is the thought that I was saving lives and /or suffering from injuries

Posters here obsess over carts that exceed 19mph even a mile mph or so but never give mention to the issue of a driver's mental and health situation which is of greater concern especially given The Village demographics .

So again I question the position of some who claim that one of the reasons they moved to TV is because if they pull their driver's license they can still travel in their cart. Perhaps? but then perhaps not? and along those lines remember the arguments given for seat belts

All of this brings us back to the liability created by carts trespassing on Duke energy's private property

Nucky 09-11-2016 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1286749)
FYI - one needs the pass card to exit from The Villages. If someone asks you to let them in coming from Lowes path they knew they had forgot their card before exiting.

I'm aware of this but I think you have to take each situation and measure the person making the request, I did and they didn't get access. I showed up once to exit thru that gate and realized I forgot my card. Did I just exit and hope for the best on the return trip....no I went back home and got my card..lesson learned. One cart one card, no exception unless I know them or am married to her.

rustyp 09-11-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1286775)
I'm aware of this but I think you have to take each situation and measure the person making the request, I did and they didn't get access. I showed up once to exit thru that gate and realized I forgot my card. Did I just exit and hope for the best on the return trip....no I went back home and got my card..lesson learned. One cart one card, no exception unless I know them or am married to her.

Exactly - how were you going to get out without the card?

JoMar 09-11-2016 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1286752)
The cart paths on roads are called diamond lanes. And if you drive enough of them you will determine that some car drivers can't resist but breach the white solid lines that divide the cart lane from the right car lane. This is especially true along Rio Grande, Delmar, etc.

A man killed in a traffic accident while driving a golf cart on Morse made a left turn from the diamond lane and was in a collision with a vehicle. This guy had a heart attack. I do not recall that the papers every reported if he died because of the accident or the heart attack.

The guy who had severe sight problems and was from Oxford was traveling on a multi-modal path and hit a pedestrian. As a result of this accident I contacted Community Watch and discussed the suggestion that The Village ought to issue village ID tags at the same time they issued ID cards . They told me back then that it was being discussed. Apparently someone felt it unnecessary or its still in discussion. I still believe it is a sound idea and one that is not that expensive and has many enforcement and identification benefits.

Clearly if a person has a medical condition such that driving a vehicle creates an increased hazard, the same as such causes as speed and the greatest in mind cause for accident " driver inattention" In fact health may be a greater cause for concern.

I had the unfortunate task of taking the car keys away from my mother when she developed Alzheimer's and what lessen the guilt for me is the thought that I was saving lives and /or suffering from injuries

Posters here obsess over carts that exceed 19mph even a mile mph or so but never give mention to the issue of a driver's mental and health situation which is of greater concern especially given The Village demographics .

So again I question the position of some who claim that one of the reasons they moved to TV is because if they pull their driver's license they can still travel in their cart. Perhaps? but then perhaps not? and along those lines remember the arguments given for seat belts

All of this brings us back to the liability created by carts trespassing on Duke energy's private property

:agree:

dewilson58 09-11-2016 08:32 PM

Enjoy it while you can.

Be safe, be careful.

It's private property.

:popcorn:


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