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OrangeBlossomBaby 05-04-2025 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2429457)
Come on!

Yes, of course exceeding the posted limit in a cart will warrant a ticket. BUT, since carts are limited to 20mph and most roads in the Villages have limits higher than that, it is not possible to exceed the posted speed limit.

Yes, the speed limit in many villas is 10mph but since those are private roads it is unlikely that the sheriff will be giving tickets there.

Obviously, some cart-like vehicles are capable of traveling faster than 20mph. These also can be cited but that citation will be for an unregistered vehicle, not for exceeding 20mph on a road with a limit of 30mph.

The Village of Country Club Hills has a posted speed limit of 25mph. The rest of the Historic Side has a posted speed limit of 20mph, except for the stretch of road from the Boone Gate to the Wales Gate, which has a posted speed of 15mph.

I have been passed, while in my golf cart, by other golf carts on "my" side of The Villages. We don't have MMPs, these are all public roads.

Also, Morse Blvd from 466 to El Camino Real has a posted speed limit of 30mph, and a golf cart lane on each side of the road. There is ALSO an MMP up closer to the roundabout, but it ends eventually and you still have to drive your cart on Morse, eventually. I have been passed by golf carts, while driving in my golf cart, on Morse Blvd. My cart can go as fast as 21 now, but for quite awhile something was wrong with it and I couldn't even get it past 19.4, and would sometimes not go past 18.6. At an average of 19mph for me, you'd need around a quarter of a mile, going 20mph, to pass me. They were passing me with ease within the span of half a city block. I don't know how fast they were going. I just know they were going well past the 20mph speed limit for golf carts, and they were driving golf carts, not street legal carts.

shut the front door 05-04-2025 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy (Post 2429391)
You can be ticketed for speeding in a golf cart on the street in the diamond lane, but not on the MMP because it’s private property.

The ticket is not a speeding ticket. It is a citation for driving an unregistered vehicle. It's been addressed ad nauseum on this forum and this post.

Bill14564 05-04-2025 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2429469)
The Village of Country Club Hills has a posted speed limit of 25mph. The rest of the Historic Side has a posted speed limit of 20mph, except for the stretch of road from the Boone Gate to the Wales Gate, which has a posted speed of 15mph.

I have been passed, while in my golf cart, by other golf carts on "my" side of The Villages. We don't have MMPs, these are all public roads.

Also, Morse Blvd from 466 to El Camino Real has a posted speed limit of 30mph, and a golf cart lane on each side of the road. There is ALSO an MMP up closer to the roundabout, but it ends eventually and you still have to drive your cart on Morse, eventually. I have been passed by golf carts, while driving in my golf cart, on Morse Blvd. My cart can go as fast as 21 now, but for quite awhile something was wrong with it and I couldn't even get it past 19.4, and would sometimes not go past 18.6. At an average of 19mph for me, you'd need around a quarter of a mile, going 20mph, to pass me. They were passing me with ease within the span of half a city block. I don't know how fast they were going. I just know they were going well past the 20mph speed limit for golf carts, and they were driving golf carts, not street legal carts.

There is no golf cart speed limit in Florida.

Golf cart - line vehicles that are capable of exceeding 20mph are at a minimum LSVs. They may be unregistered LSVs and should be cited but they do not fit the legal definition on Florida of a golf cart.

jimjamuser 05-04-2025 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2429375)
So the e-bikes can go xxxx mph, big deal. I’m happy to see it, it won’t be someone going slow in front of me.
My neighbor claims his standup skateboard will go 60mph. No pads/helmet, this is crazy! Capable speeds vs the speed he goes are 2 different things. Your cars can go 100mph-200mph depending on the car you have, but how often to you go above 80?
Again, it’s not the fast people causing issues on the paths, it’s the slower people that cause accidents

That last sentence is DEBATABLE. I wonder what the actual statistics are about who causes more accidents - drivers going OVER the speed limit or drivers going UNDER the speed limit?

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-04-2025 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2429472)
There is no golf cart speed limit in Florida.

Golf cart - line vehicles that are capable of exceeding 20mph are at a minimum LSVs. They may be unregistered LSVs and should be cited but they do not fit the legal definition on Florida of a golf cart.

Golf Carts

Golf carts are defined in section 320.01(22), Florida Statutes, as “a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.”

If it's capable of exceeding speeds of 20mph, then it isn't legally a golf cart. That makes the default speed limit for golf carts - 20mph. That's as fast as they're allowed to go on public roads. I discovered mine could hit 21mph when I floored it from a stop on a straight-away, but it immediately reduced itself down to 20.somethingorother - maybe 20.4? It won't sustain 21 for more than a second or two. I normally keep my speed between 19.6-19.8 even though I know my cart can go "into" the 20mph window. Once it hits 19.6 it starts getting too loud (old Club Car with none of that quiet-tech stuff).

(Of course, if you were to put your cart in neutral and roll it down a long, steep hill, you'd eventually surpass 20mph. But the intention of the law isn't to enforce violations of people who roll their carts down long steep hills in neutral.)

VApeople 05-04-2025 11:51 AM

Personally, I do not care how fast e-bikes and golf carts travel. If either one hits me when I am driving my car, they will suffer much more damage than I will.

fdpaq0580 05-04-2025 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2429487)
Personally, I do not care how fast e-bikes and golf carts travel. If either one hits me when I am driving my car, they will suffer much more damage than I will.

Still gonna ruin your day. Maybe end up in court defending your self. Possibly effect your insurance costs.
If only stupid/careless people paid the price of their stupidity, I wouldn't care. But it doesn’t work out that way. Unfortunately!

Jim 9922 05-04-2025 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2429476)
That last sentence is DEBATABLE. I wonder what the actual statistics are about who causes more accidents - drivers going OVER the speed limit or drivers going UNDER the speed limit?

I'd vote for neither but would vote for those who are buzzed up on booze or drugs.

Jim 9922 05-04-2025 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2429476)
That last sentence is DEBATABLE. I wonder what the actual statistics are about who causes more accidents - drivers going OVER the speed limit or drivers going UNDER the speed limit?

I'd vote for neither but would vote for those who are buzzed up on booze or drugs.

HappyRetired21 05-04-2025 03:35 PM

Golf Cart drivers do get speeding tickets
 
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Originally Posted by Nanshe (Post 2429336)
Yes, you can

I've seen them writing tickets to golf cart drivers. 20 mph is the speed limit and they will write you a ticket if they see you pass a cart going 20.

dshoberg 05-04-2025 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyRetired21 (Post 2429526)
I've seen them writing tickets to golf cart drivers. 20 mph is the speed limit and they will write you a ticket if they see you pass a cart going 20.

And that's my point, if they write up carts, why not e-bikes for speeding >20mph?

Bill14564 05-04-2025 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dshoberg (Post 2429541)
And that's my point, if they write up carts, why not e-bikes for speeding >20mph?

Because they don’t. That poster did not stick around to find out what was going on.

Donaz1 05-04-2025 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dshoberg (Post 2429300)
So, I had an e-bike pass me on a multi-modal path while I was doing around 20mph in my golf cart. When I got home, I looked up the specs on some of those bikes. When I read about some reaching 30 mph, I had to think. If I can get a ticket in The Villages for going over 20 mph in my cart, can they also get ticketed?

I have an E-bike but I rarely go over 14-15mph. There are 5 assist levels. I keep it on level 1 or 2 as I want the workout. One cannot go anywhere without pedaling. It is not a scooter. I doubt I could achieve 20, maybe downhill.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-04-2025 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dshoberg (Post 2429541)
And that's my point, if they write up carts, why not e-bikes for speeding >20mph?

E-bikes aren't allowed to exceed posted speed limits. There are 3 different classes of e-bikes. A class 3 e-bike can legally be set to go up to 28mph. Class 1 and 2 e-bikes can legally be set to go no higher than 20mph. All e-bikes are required to obey posted speed limits.

If they CAN go faster, they're set incorrectly - whether intentional or not. It might never be enforced UNLESS one of them causes an accident.

The speed limits apply to bicycles too by the way. If a non-motorized bike is going over the speed limit and causes an accident, they might be held liable for damages. It's definitely possible to go over 20mph on a bicycle.

jimbomaybe 05-05-2025 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dshoberg (Post 2429300)
So, I had an e-bike pass me on a multi-modal path while I was doing around 20mph in my golf cart. When I got home, I looked up the specs on some of those bikes. When I read about some reaching 30 mph, I had to think. If I can get a ticket in The Villages for going over 20 mph in my cart, can they also get ticketed?

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Again, it’s not the fast people causing issues on the paths, it’s the slower people that cause accidents"

LOL


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