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charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-19-2023 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2266446)
I am not excited about a restaurant with an extensive hot dog menu. Call me snooty, but it is what it is! I gave up eating processed meat, years ago.

As we all know, the rec center will be the same layout as the others. The decor will be a theme throughout imitating the rec centers that were built before. The golf courses will be fairly the same, as well. I am looking forward to the inside gymnasium but my common sense tells me it will always be crowded. I was hoping the restaurants and stores will be different and exciting. So far, I have no interest. Hot Dogs? Really? I am certain my wife will not appreciate a date night that includes a Tom Brady Dog, Wrigley Fries, and an Arnold Palmer to wash them down. Even Taylor Swift appearing on the big screen will not convince her to go.

maybe it’s not too late to buy your home back in Palm Beach. Fl , I’m sure they don’t even allow the help to eat hot dogs .

Bogie Shooter 10-19-2023 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2266603)
maybe it’s not too late to buy your home back in Palm Beach. Fl , I’m sure they don’t even allow the help to eat hot dogs .

:boom:

Stu from NYC 10-19-2023 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2266566)
The other side of 470 is owned by the Villages. The land won’t just sit there. Don’t forget they have plans to develop all the way southeast to Honeycutt Lake. The main issue will be Lake County laws which prohibit roundabouts. There won’t be another Central Parkway. Crossing 470 at this point by cart would require an act of congress. There’s no inkling of Lake County caving to a reroute like Sumter County caved to. Leesburg and the surrounding communities want nothing to do with more development. They are a lot like Marion. The Villages won’t ever run their government with a majority. If it became connected great; but right now it looks to be more like Oxford.

If the developer decides they can sell more homes in Lake County if they allow roundabouts does anyone think he does not have the clout to get them to make this change?

Normal 10-19-2023 10:34 AM

Lake County
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2266617)
If the developer decides they can sell more homes in Lake County if they allow roundabouts does anyone think he does not have the clout to get them to make this change?

Yes, they lack the clout at this point. Every Lake County commissioner is against The Villages expansion in the county. Any that would vote in favor of decapitation of Leesburg as the county throne would not only be committed to political suicide, but would incur significant threats to life and limb. Plans were scrapped by the developer to place any roundabouts on Meggison after the Homestead recreation center because of the rule. I don’t see it ever happening.

Maybe I could ask you, “Do you ever see Ocala giving up their power to the Villages?” It is about along the same guidelines. You know it isn’t just Leesburg by the way? It’s Estes, Mt. Dora, Clermont, Groveland and and others. The population is almost 3 times The Villages of Sumter County LOL.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-19-2023 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2266648)
Yes, they lack the clout at this point. Every Lake County commissioner is against The Villages expansion in the county. Any that would vote in favor of decapitation of Leesburg as the county throne would not only be committed to political suicide, but would incur significant threats to life and limb. Plans were scrapped by the developer to place any roundabouts on Meggison after the Homestead recreation center because of the rule. I don’t see it ever happening.

I’ve had a home here(6) since 2000 even if I haven’t been here all the time , but the list is long of failed politicians who tried to challenge the villages growth and I’m glad for that

Altavia 10-19-2023 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 2266592)
Getting back to the Village of Moultrie Creek, what's not to like? Here's a video about it:

https://youtu.be/BQ1fEgb4HVI?si=AgDSiz6GrBQ3IklK

Thanks!


Here's a new video on Eastport.

https://youtu.be/xEdUoo0CnzU?si=zjtALFLYMR2ETtGY

Normal 10-19-2023 10:56 AM

Uh hu
 
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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2266653)
I’ve had a home here(6) since 2000 even if I haven’t been here all the time , but the list is long of failed politicians who tried to challenge the villages growth and I’m glad for that

That’s why they caved and narrowed Meggison from a 4 lane to a two lane. Not only were roundabouts eliminated but there are now only 2 lanes on what was designed as a four lane road.

Don’t hold your breath. Clermont and Mt. Dora would also have something to say from a county almost three times the size of Sumter in population.

Stu from NYC 10-19-2023 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2266648)
Yes, they lack the clout at this point. Every Lake County commissioner is against The Villages expansion in the county. Any that would vote in favor of decapitation of Leesburg as the county throne would not only be committed to political suicide, but would incur significant threats to life and limb. Plans were scrapped by the developer to place any roundabouts on Meggison after the Homestead recreation center because of the rule. I don’t see it ever happening.

Maybe I could ask you, “Do you ever see Ocala giving up their power to the Villages?” It is about along the same guidelines. You know it isn’t just Leesburg by the way? It’s Estes, Mt. Dora, Clermont, Groveland and and others. The population is almost 3 times The Villages of Sumter County LOL.

Been here almost 4 years now and it does seem to me that if the developer wants something he has the clout and the smarts to get it by hook or by crook as the old expression goes.

Randall55 10-19-2023 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2266583)
I am thinking about how many restaurants we would have never tried, had we not driven 15 or 30 minutes (or longer). :icon_hungry:

i enjoy going out of the bubble and exploring. Some nights, I do not want to deal with the traffic. It would be nice to have a restaurant close that serves meals a step-up from processed hotdogs, burgers, sandwiches, and fries. I'm not getting any younger. I can't eat those types of food.

Altavia 10-19-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2266656)
That’s why they caved and narrowed Meggison from a 4 lane to a two lane. Not only were roundabouts eliminated but there are now only 2 lanes on what was designed as a four lane road.

Don’t hold your breath. Clermont and Mt. Dora would also have something to say from a county almost three times the size of Sumter in population.

Really?

Where elsr in the Villages had the developer put 4 lane road through the middle of Villages?

Meggison was planned as a 2 lane local road.since well before 2020.

Bexley Trail was clrarly planned as the 4 lane regional connector for to the 470 and the turnpike.

https://www.samanthamerritt.org/road...rowth-in-step/

Pat2015 10-19-2023 02:04 PM

Actually 3 Executive courses coming and 2 more Championship courses coming in the south.

Randall55 10-19-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2266603)
maybe it’s not too late to buy your home back in Palm Beach. Fl , I’m sure they don’t even allow the help to eat hot dogs .

At our age, if you can still eat hot dogs, burgers, pizza, sandwiches, and fries, God Bless You! My body does not digest those foods as easily as when I was younger.

I am just being real! On occasion, a hot dog, burger, or sandwich is fine. There are no restaurants in the southern area that offers healthier foods. It would be nice to have one or two.

Normal 10-19-2023 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2266690)
Really?

Where elsr in the Villages had the developer put 4 lane road through the middle of Villages?

Meggison was planned as a 2 lane local road.since well before 2020.

Bexley Trail was clrarly planned as the 4 lane regional connector for to the 470 and the turnpike.

https://www.samanthamerritt.org/road...rowth-in-step/

Do you mean Morris, maybe Buena Vista, Warm Springs? I guess plenty have 2 lanes each way. Yes, the original plan does show Meggison as a 4 lane road.

MSchad 10-19-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat2015 (Post 2266702)
Actually 3 Executive courses coming and 2 more Championship courses coming in the south.

Actually 3 Championships; Two 18 hole courses and One 27 hole course.
Look at volume 15

John Mayes 10-19-2023 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MSchad (Post 2266748)
Actually 3 Championships; Two 27 hole courses and One 18 hole course.
Look at volume 15

3 Championships, (one 27 hole - Meadow View and two 18 hole - Shallow Creek and Woodlands) and 6 executives, (four named so far - Laurel Oak, Bellaire, Honeysuckle and Beautyberry).

Outdoors 10-19-2023 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2266746)
Do you mean Morris, maybe Buena Vista, Warm Springs? I guess plenty have 2 lanes each way. Yes, the original plan does show Meggison as a 4 lane road.

The map at the link looks like it shows Meggison as 4 lane until Bexley Trail then 2 lane. If Lake County outlawed Roundabouts, I wonder how the road builders at county road 455 and the turnpike got those roundabouts approved??

jljl62040 10-20-2023 06:06 AM

More Than Fast Food
 
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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2266736)
At our age, if you can still eat hot dogs, burgers, pizza, sandwiches, and fries, God Bless You! My body does not digest those foods as easily as when I was younger.

I am just being real! On occasion, a hot dog, burger, or sandwich is fine. There are no restaurants in the southern area that offers healthier foods. It would be nice to have one or two.

Fenney Grill and McGrady's Pub offer more than fast food options.

Justputt 10-20-2023 06:45 AM

Fast food doesn't mean bad food or food bad for you. I've eaten some pretty unhealthy food at nice restaurants over the years. Just give me selection and let me choose what I want.

Normal 10-20-2023 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Outdoors (Post 2266787)
The map at the link looks like it shows Meggison as 4 lane until Bexley Trail then 2 lane. If Lake County outlawed Roundabouts, I wonder how the road builders at county road 455 and the turnpike got those roundabouts approved??

Of course you are talking about the widening and the state right of way for the turn pike? I imagine the county has little to work with there.

Deckboat234 10-20-2023 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2266502)
Is that (legally) golf cart accessible??? Can't see a way through on a satellite view

you just drive down the dirt path next to the sidewalk. Legal- no but people do it all the time. We even asked a sheriff officer if he would ticket us and he said no but a different might. You can always park in the parking lot on the west end of the Brownwood hotel and walk one block

golfing eagles 10-20-2023 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deckboat234 (Post 2266868)
you just drive down the dirt path next to the sidewalk. Legal- no but people do it all the time. We even asked a sheriff officer if he would ticket us and he said no but a different might. You can always park in the parking lot on the west end of the Brownwood hotel and walk one block

So, in other words, it's NOT legal, but "people do it all the time"? Like most crimes, you might not get caught? If you are caught, you may or not be cited depending on the officer? I'd say that's about the same as Vegas odds in blackjack :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Charlie.hanf 10-20-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2266381)
Yeah, but you're on the multi-modal path. Perhaps the lament is over the lack of (yama)moto, (Manny)moto or (quasi)moto paths. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Even better---a first post, might as well start the developer bashing early, for a perceived lack of something that he doesn't even know the name of.


For a "sage" I would think you would be a bit more understanding of a newbie who is just trying to gain information.

golfing eagles 10-20-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie.hanf (Post 2266963)
For a "sage" I would think you would be a bit more understanding of a newbie who is just trying to gain information.

If you don't even know what it is called, how can you gain information???? You did realize this was a first-time poster taking a shot at the developer?

zuidemab 10-20-2023 04:01 PM

Maybe they will have Chicago Dogs

Rcflyer55 10-28-2023 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2266381)
Yeah, but you're on the multi-modal path. Perhaps the lament is over the lack of (yama)moto, (Manny)moto or (quasi)moto paths. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Even better---a first post, might as well start the developer bashing early, for a perceived lack of something that he doesn't even know the name of.

Thanks for correcting me, as I only visited there for 3 days looking for property in Dabney & Eastport & there were no multi-“modal” paths there. Perhaps I misunderstood our realtor’s pronunciation. However she did keep telling us how it is the friendliest place to live. Guess she hasn’t met you or some others on these forums. Some people just like to ASSume others have an agenda which doesn’t exist. I have no clue who the developers are good or bad.

Rcflyer55 10-28-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie.hanf (Post 2266963)
For a "sage" I would think you would be a bit more understanding of a newbie who is just trying to gain information.

Thank you. Some people just look to find sinister plots I guess. It’s a sad way to view the world & people in it. All this because of one word moto vs modal. Can’t imagine if I mistakenly used there in stead of their. :D

MrChip72 10-28-2023 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2266502)
Is that (legally) golf cart accessible??? Can't see a way through on a satellite view

It's 100% legal to do so. You're going on a small patch of grass from the health center beside the Brownwood hotel and then driving on a small patch of grass across the front of Freedom Plaza. You may see "NE 41st view" on a map but it's not really a road of any sort, more like an unopened road allowance.

Basically just follow the well worn golf cart tracks.

DrMack 10-29-2023 05:58 AM

Marketing Praise
 
Excellent venue for marketing. I enjoyed the YouTube video as well. Keep up the good work.

golfing eagles 10-29-2023 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rcflyer55 (Post 2269209)
Thank you. Some people just look to find sinister plots I guess. It’s a sad way to view the world & people in it. All this because of one word moto vs modal. Can’t imagine if I mistakenly used there in stead of their. :D

Not quite.

Here is YOUR very first post:

"I wish there were multi moto paths in the south. Seems they’ve been abandoned to save $$ at the risk of lives"

"Moto" was just a bonus. For someone who claims that "they don't even know who the developer is", that post certainly attempts to attribute to them profit over safety. So, yes, I agree, that IS a sad way to "view the world and the people in it"

You see, you can't have it both ways---someone on this site will call you out on it.

Marathon Man 10-29-2023 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2266535)
I get what you are saying and I'm sure $$ is a factor. Tons of diamond lanes in southern area of Sawgrass and on.

The days of nature joy ride style multimodal paths for golf carts like up north of Warm Springs Road area as seen on Gold Wingnut's maps seem to be void now. Sure lots of walking paths but as far as I can see on the map key "blue" lines either hug the main roads or disappear into diamond lanes.

Not my kind of joy ride in a cart like waaaay up north or the Marsh Bend Trail path. Diamond lanes are dangerous but who would agree with that on totv where its all about picking at others.

"They don't build 'em like they used to."

There are plenty of diamond lanes north of 44. And there are plenty of MMP's south of 44. They certainly did "build 'em like they used to".

The difference is, and it is a great improvement, walkers and riders have plenty of paths to enjoy without dodging impatient cart drivers. I sold my bike when I lived north of 44. Now that I live south, I wish I had held on to it.

Maker 10-29-2023 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2269305)
not quite.

Here is your very first post:

"i wish there were multi moto paths in the south. Seems they’ve been abandoned to save $$ at the risk of lives"

"moto" was just a bonus. For someone who claims that "they don't even know who the developer is", that post certainly attempts to attribute to them profit over safety. So, yes, i agree, that is a sad way to "view the world and the people in it"

you see, you can't have it both ways---someone on this site will call you out on it.

wow

VApeople 10-29-2023 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2269324)
The difference is, and it is a great improvement, walkers and riders have plenty of paths to enjoy without dodging impatient cart drivers.

Yes, the southern area has lots of wonderful walking/biking paths where golf carts are forbidden.

We live north of Route 44 but we never ride our bikes anywhere near us. When we want to ride our bikes, we take them south of 44 and park our car at a nice rec center like Homestead or Franklin. Then we go for a long (for us) bike ride and then hop in the pool afterwards.

jjdlad 11-14-2023 03:56 PM

Will there be nightly entertainment at Eastport? I would assume so, but haven't seen it confirmed yet.

Bogie Shooter 11-14-2023 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jjdlad (Post 2274628)
Will there be nightly entertainment at Eastport? I would assume so, but haven't seen it confirmed yet.

Confirmed.

Altavia 11-14-2023 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jjdlad (Post 2274628)
Will there be nightly entertainment at Eastport? I would assume so, but haven't seen it confirmed yet.

Looks like there might be an ampitheatet and stage overlooking the lake.

jjdlad 11-16-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2274657)
Looks like there might be an ampitheatet and stage overlooking the lake.

Thanks. I knew there was a spot for entertainment, I was just asking if there would be daily (nightly) entertainment like in the other 4 squares. Seems that someone else said yes so I am sticking to that answer until I hear differently.

Altavia 11-16-2023 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jjdlad (Post 2275185)
Thanks. I knew there was a spot for entertainment, I was just asking if there would be daily (nightly) entertainment like in the other 4 squares. Seems that someone else said yes so I am sticking to that answer until I hear differently.

Given the Developers are pretty much playing SimCity in real life, I think that's a safe assumption.


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