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Bjeanj 04-05-2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1926618)
If you were to measure the amount of electricity to charge your cart it isn't that much. Of course the initial cost of stations would be but the Villages can afford this, you would think and hav a system to pay for charging. I would use this facility for the convenience.

That sounds a bit fast and easy with someone else’s money. So many questions related to this issue.
Who is “The Villages”
Is there a CDD that would want to front the cost.
Ratio of electric carts to gas carts.
How long does it take to charge a cart.
How many chargers in one location.
Etc etc

njbchbum 04-05-2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1926650)
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simple. The Federal Government - because with the "Infrastructure Bill" being discussed, why not include some $$$ for TV Electric Cart chargers?

President Joe Biden is prioritizing a national EV charging network under his $2 trillion infrastructure bill, promising to have at least 500,000 of the devices installed across the U.S. by 2030. Estimates are $50Billion.
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Love your sense of humor! Do you think the OP wants to wait until 2030? lol

Mortal1 04-05-2021 06:15 PM

Errrr...we the people...
 
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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1926650)
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simple. The Federal Government - because with the "Infrastructure Bill" being discussed, why not include some $$$ for TV Electric Cart chargers?

President Joe Biden is prioritizing a national EV charging network under his $2 trillion infrastructure bill, promising to have at least 500,000 of the devices installed across the U.S. by 2030. Estimates are $50Billion.
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are paying for this bill for many years to come and I personally don't wish my hard earned cash to pay for someone else's charging station. If you need a charging station then add a surcharge to those using electric vehicles to pay for it.

JoMar 04-05-2021 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1926673)
are paying for this bill for many years to come and I personally don't wish my hard earned cash to pay for someone else's charging station. If you need a charging station then add a surcharge to those using electric vehicles to pay for it.

Considering the major auto manufacturers are eliminating gas vehicles from their lines and moving to electric and autonomous driving vehicles I suspect there will be surcharges on fuel to make up the lost tax revenue.

Also, Fenney to SS and back is about 40 miles, what kind of electric cart are you driving that can't handle that distance? And how many of those trips do you intend to make?

Joe V. 04-05-2021 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1926650)
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simple. The Federal Government - because with the "Infrastructure Bill" being discussed, why not include some $$$ for TV Electric Cart chargers?

President Joe Biden is prioritizing a national EV charging network under his $2 trillion infrastructure bill, promising to have at least 500,000 of the devices installed across the U.S. by 2030. Estimates are $50Billion.
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The federal government are taxpayers. My, we are just made of printed money borrowed to pay off debit, which itself was borrowed to pay off debt, ad so on and on.

Garywt 04-05-2021 08:44 PM

In general it takes 8+ hours to charge so overnight works best. If you charge only 2 hours at a time the batteries will lose a lot of the storage power and you will not be able to go far.

tuccillo 04-05-2021 08:49 PM

About half the states charge fees for electric vehicles to make up the lost gasoline tax revenue because they aren't buying gasoline anymore.

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1926716)
Considering the major auto manufacturers are eliminating gas vehicles from their lines and moving to electric and autonomous driving vehicles I suspect there will be surcharges on fuel to make up the lost tax revenue.

Also, Fenney to SS and back is about 40 miles, what kind of electric cart are you driving that can't handle that distance? And how many of those trips do you intend to make?


Homer49 04-05-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cemlopez (Post 1926552)
With the tremendous growth of The Villages and the long distances from the different amenities, I think it is about time that electric charging stations be installed at strategic locations. (a good example is the softball fields at Everglades, if you live around CR466 or North of it, it is impossible to make the round trip with out running out of power).
Just something to think about.

Not true for all electric carts. I’m surprised by how many folks in TV are unaware of the improvements in electric carts that have come from use of lithium battery technology. We recently made a 31-mile round trip from our home in Marsh Bend (near Everglades) to Spanish Springs and used a little less than 50% of our battery capacity. 30-minutes of charging will provide an hour of run time, and there’s no battery maintenance or battery fade (and they have an 8-yr warranty). Only downside is initial expense.

chet2020 04-05-2021 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1926716)
Considering the major auto manufacturers are eliminating gas vehicles from their lines and moving to electric and autonomous driving vehicles I suspect there will be surcharges on fuel to make up the lost tax revenue.

Also, Fenney to SS and back is about 40 miles, what kind of electric cart are you driving that can't handle that distance? And how many of those trips do you intend to make?

Automakers are moving to electric cars because they are cheaper to operate. It's cheaper to drive X miles with a battery than the same distance with gasoline ($10-$15K cheaper over 15 years). Also, fewer moving parts with a battery. Electric engines are inevitable, whether you believe in climate change or not, and they are going to power lawn mowers and everything else.

Anyway, back to the OP, I believe part of his point was that if TV is going to continue to expand and profit, they ought to provide charging stations. TV is expanding right now well south of Fenney. However, new electric carts are claiming 100 mile ranges, so the range will become less of an issue over time.

Markers333 04-06-2021 04:47 AM

You’re wrong there, my cart is Lithium goes a good 60 miles and has an on board charger, takes 2 hrs for almost full charge

thevillages2013 04-06-2021 05:06 AM

Solar panel for cart roof
 
What about those solar panels that came out a few years back that mounted on the roof of the golf cart. If they actually work ( and it’s a sunny day) your cart can be charging while you are playing softball, shopping ,etc...

Uphillputt330 04-06-2021 05:08 AM

Private enterprise? Take some leadership
 
First of all I think the electric golf cart manufacturers should standardize on a voltage and FAST charge system. It’s in their best interest. Perhaps reaching out to whatever trade association exists for these manufacturers?

Second the Districts could Bid out to private companies to install chargers in strategic locations where the private companies could charge to recoup their costs of the chargers and electric. Districts would have to control the prices charged for by the private companies to make this work.

Getting this to work is in everyone’s best interest.

pattycakes60 04-06-2021 05:10 AM

:eek:
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Originally Posted by cemlopez (Post 1926552)
With the tremendous growth of The Villages and the long distances from the different amenities, I think it is about time that electric charging stations be installed at strategic locations. (a good example is the softball fields at Everglades, if you live around CR466 or North of it, it is impossible to make the round trip with out running out of power).
Just something to think about.

Just buy a portable charger and take with you, that would solve your problem, our fees do not need to go up anymore to support something else.

dewilson58 04-06-2021 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pattycakes60 (Post 1926776)
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Just buy a portable charger and take with you, that would solve your problem, our fees do not need to go up anymore to support something else.

& then steal electricity from???.............

Flflyer 04-06-2021 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1926650)
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simple. The Federal Government - because with the "Infrastructure Bill" being discussed, why not include some $$$ for TV Electric Cart chargers?

President Joe Biden is prioritizing a national EV charging network under his $2 trillion infrastructure bill, promising to have at least 500,000 of the devices installed across the U.S. by 2030. Estimates are $50Billion.
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If you are running Lithium batteries it should not be a problem if they are sized right.


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