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mulligan 04-08-2021 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1927576)
They couldn't just have electrical outlets. There would have to be several chargers for the different models of golf carts.

Someone might eventually invent a charger that would work with all carts and simply have different plugs and a switch to turn to your cart's make and model.

Since the federal government is so interested in protecting the environment by subsidizing the manufacture of electric vehicles, maybe they could pay to have something invented and installed. That way we could start getting rid of all the noisy, gas guzzling, polluting gas golf carts.

Of course, there is also the problem with carts taking hours to charge. That would also have to be solved. But all the government seems to have plenty of money. Maybe they should do a study.

You don't just "have" charging outlets. Who will pay? The government. That's MY tax money you're spending foolishly. It will cost trillions to wire the country.

tuccillo 04-08-2021 08:49 AM

No, they can have "regular" electric outlets. Golf carts use a regular 120V 3 prong plug (a 5-15 plug, IIRC) on a 15 or 20 amp circuit (AC). They either have external or internal chargers that convert AC to DC current. Golf carts with external chargers would need to bring their charger with them. Unlike electric cars, I don't believe there is any standardization on direct DC charging (that would bypass the AC to DC conversion in the external or internal charger) of golf carts plus you would need some battery management hardware. I don't see the motivation for such a thing since electric golf carts have a pretty good range, certainly enough for getting around The Villages, there is no time urgency on charging since you can charge overnight at home, and charging at home is easy via the ubiquitous 120V 3 prong outlet. When you find yourself with insufficient range then you need to buy new batteries.

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1927576)
They couldn't just have electrical outlets. There would have to be several chargers for the different models of golf carts.


Ben Franklin 04-08-2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 1927587)
You don't just "have" charging outlets. Who will pay? The government. That's MY tax money you're spending foolishly. It will cost trillions to wire the country.

I know lots of people who don't use the Rec centers, or golf, but they still have to pay the monthly fee. Wouldn't this be the same thing?

tophcfa 04-08-2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1927624)
I know lots of people who don't use the Rec centers, or golf, but they still have to pay the monthly fee. Wouldn't this be the same thing?

Not the way I see it. When people choose to become Village homeowners, they had full knowledge they would be required to pay a monthly amenity fee regardless of their use of such amenities. When people choose to buy a gas vehicle versus electric, they did not sign up to subsidize those that bought electric.

Ben Franklin 04-08-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1927628)
Not the way I see it. When people choose to become Village homeowners, they had full knowledge they would be required to pay a monthly amenity fee regardless of their use of such amenities. When people choose to buy a gas vehicle versus electric, they did not sign up to subsidize those that bought electric.

Would you have objected if that was already included in the amenity fee before you moved here? We've been subsidizing the gas and oil industries since forever? Do you object to that? Even though it's a different government entity, it's still our taxes.

RI401 04-08-2021 11:53 AM

I have solar panels on mine up north and charge controller. I have an inverter too that powers ac stuff at the house if the power goes out. I assume you have more sunshine here than in Rhode Island.

graciegirl 04-08-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1927638)
Would you have objected if that was already included in the amenity fee before you moved here? We've been subsidizing the gas and oil industries since forever? Do you object to that? Even though it's a different government entity, it's still our taxes.

That's a reach.

tuccillo 04-08-2021 12:18 PM

A strawman argument.

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1927638)
Would you have objected if that was already included in the amenity fee before you moved here? We've been subsidizing the gas and oil industries since forever? Do you object to that? Even though it's a different government entity, it's still our taxes.


Neils 04-08-2021 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cemlopez (Post 1926552)
With the tremendous growth of The Villages and the long distances from the different amenities, I think it is about time that electric charging stations be installed at strategic locations. (a good example is the softball fields at Everglades, if you live around CR466 or North of it, it is impossible to make the round trip with out running out of power).
Just something to think about.

We can have a new coal fired power plant built between the prison and the quarry to provide the power needed for all the new cart and car chargers that will soon be plugged in.
Or we could choose to have rolling power blackouts during the summer months like Calif already does now.

Ben Franklin 04-08-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1927682)
That's a reach.

How so? I pay for the electricity at the Rec centers for people to play cards, exercise, pool, etc. Our national and state taxes also pay to subsidize the oil and gas industries. In 2019 we subsidized the oil and gas industry, $20 Billion. What's the difference between our taxes paying for national subsidies and the taxes we pay as local, recreational fees?

Electric IS the future, whether we like it or not. I imagine the time will come when electric stations will be the norm.

Retiring 04-08-2021 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cemlopez (Post 1926552)
With the tremendous growth of The Villages and the long distances from the different amenities, I think it is about time that electric charging stations be installed at strategic locations. (a good example is the softball fields at Everglades, if you live around CR466 or North of it, it is impossible to make the round trip with out running out of power).
Just something to think about.

I don’t think you’re asking for “free” charging of your cart. I know you wouldn’t want all villagers to pay for your cart usage. If you are looking for a free charge than I assume you are in favor of “free” gas stations to pay for my cart usage. Let’s leave the nanny state outside TVs boundary. But I commend the effort.

If TV can make money selling power at various locations than I’m for it. If I must subsidize YOUR choice of electric cart, that’s a big fat…

Topspinmo 04-08-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1926668)
Love your sense of humor! Do you think the OP wants to wait until 2030? lol


Some of us can’t want that long:popcorn:

Topspinmo 04-08-2021 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1927706)
How so? I pay for the electricity at the Rec centers for people to play cards, exercise, pool, etc. Our national and state taxes also pay to subsidize the oil and gas industries. In 2019 we subsidized the oil and gas industry, $20 Billion. What's the difference between our taxes paying for national subsidies and the taxes we pay as local, recreational fees?

Electric IS the future, whether we like it or not. I imagine the time will come when electric stations will be the norm.

IMO the fossil fuel industry get subsidized cause the government makes more on gallon gas than oil companies. Even the state’s make more. We are not paying for residents to get to rec centers. It’s on their dime.

mulligan 04-09-2021 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1927624)
I know lots of people who don't use the Rec centers, or golf, but they still have to pay the monthly fee. Wouldn't this be the same thing?

NO They didn't have to buy here.

Bay Kid 04-09-2021 09:49 AM

Free gas. Free electric. One day everything will be free.


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