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OrangeBlossomBaby 06-03-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1776447)
The question asked at the second NSCUDD workshop in August was "I am willing to pay slightly more (less the $2 per month) to maintain the current waste and recycling program" So, the starting figure of $19.38 should be used and not compare one rate increase with another as you suggest.

You will be paying more than the current rate, no matter which plan is implemented. The current rate will cease to exist. It will become obsolete, moot, irrelevant.

The programs being implemented are FUTURE programs. Not programs occurring right now, or yesterday, with the current rate.

You will be paying more than you are now, no matter which plan you get. The "how much more" will be insignificant when compared to each other. The difference between the "slightly more" for the current plan, will be less than $2 per YEAR, compared to the "slightly more" for the new plan, as soon as the plan is implemented.

twoplanekid 06-03-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1776592)
You will be paying more than the current rate, no matter which plan is implemented. The current rate will cease to exist. It will become obsolete, moot, irrelevant.

The programs being implemented are FUTURE programs. OK Not programs occurring right now, or yesterday, with the current rate.

You will be paying more than you are now, no matter which plan you get.YES The "how much more" will be insignificant when compared to each other. YES AND NO The difference between the "slightly more" for the current plan, will be less than $2 per YEAR, compared to the "slightly more" for the new plan, as soon as the plan is implemented.

As I was at the meeting in person, my perception was that the question was trying to determine how much of a cost increase from the current rate ($19.38) was acceptable as no other rates were mentioned at that time.

Bogie Shooter 06-03-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1776442)
Where would the burning take place?

You can read the article on the POA web site.

Jayhawk 06-03-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1776281)
Less pick up frequency. More air pollution. Plus $24 year higher charges to villagers.


Wrong on all counts.
Use some of that Economic Stimulus payment to pay the extra. That way it won't even seem like it's your money.

Jayhawk 06-03-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paper1 (Post 1776098)
I’d be interested in tons into the plant and tons to landfill. This process is here to make money by creating electricity so any energy it uses to burn hard to burn waste is lost during the process.

A money-losing process is a bad business plan. Since this is the business of the company being contracted, I doubt you have the facts.

But don't let the absence of facts impact your opinion.

Jayhawk 06-03-2020 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by runkcrun (Post 1776350)
Works for me! Most of what we think we are recycling probably goes to a landfill now. There is no market in recycling. Fewer and fewer places for it to go. Seems like a good option.

You had to go and make a post that was sensible and reasonable, didn't you?

:coolsmiley::coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-03-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1776610)
As I was at the meeting in person, my perception was that the question was trying to determine how much of a cost increase from the current rate ($19.38) was acceptable as no other rates were mentioned at that time.

The current rate is $19.38.
The new rate for the existing plan would be $20.85.

So that would increase $1.45 per month, or $17.40/year. That's if you keep the same plan. Whether it's acceptable or not, that's what you'd be stuck with if you kept it the same way. You would also have your current cost of buying different plastic bags that you are required to use for recycling. You'd also have trucks up and down your street twice on one day - once for trash, once for recycling, every week, plus the second trash-only day per week, increasing wear and tear on the road and increased duration of noise pollution.

The new rate for the Covanta only plan will be $22.24/month.

That is an increase of $2.86/month, or $34.32/year. The difference between the existing plan and the new plan will be $1.45 extra for the new plan, or an additional $17.40 per year over the existing plan.

Now if you have trouble thinking that $17.40 is an acceptable difference for a year of fewer garbage trucks on your street, fewer plastic bags you have to buy, less wear and tear on your roads, and a cleaner planet, then I'd say you need to find new nits to pick.


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