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perrjojo 03-28-2014 09:57 AM

The gates in TV are very effective in serving multi purposes. One of the most successful ones seem to be irritating some of its residents. :024: :1rotfl:

Rango 03-28-2014 12:20 PM

Traffic control

TVMayor 03-29-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 851765)
Can anyone give me a rational reason why we have exit gates in the Villages??? We all know that the entrance gates are not authorized to prevent anyone from coming into the community, so does it make any sense for someone leaving the Villages to have to wait for a gate to raise to continue on their way??

We know the roads in TV are open to the public, how then can the sign at the Del Mar gate say Residents Only??

red tail 03-29-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 853303)
We know the roads in TV are open to the public, how then can the sign at the Del Mar gate say Residents Only??

I have often wondered the same thing. I have had visitors balk at that gate and go on down to the gate on rio grande taking them out of their way to find me! Who would a guy call for that answer Bogie?

Carl in Tampa 03-29-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 853303)
We know the roads in TV are open to the public, how then can the sign at the Del Mar gate say Residents Only??

There are "Residents Only" signs all over TV. The technical term for them is "Unenforceable."

You can put a "No Solicitors" sign on your front door. It can't keep people from ringing your doorbell.

:icon_wink:

Bogie Shooter 03-29-2014 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by red tail (Post 853339)
I have often wondered the same thing. I have had visitors balk at that gate and go on down to the gate on rio grande taking them out of their way to find me! Who would a guy call for that answer Bogie?

Scott Wilder, Head of Community Watch 750-8201.

Bonanza 03-29-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 853303)
We know the roads in TV are open to the public, how then can the sign at the Del Mar gate say Residents Only??

Many of the gates say "residents only,"
and I haven't figured out why they did that.

What it does do is confuse our guests,
leaving them to wonder what the hell to do and
where to go if they haven't been given directions in advance.

Truly one the epitomies of lousy planning!!

Bogie Shooter 03-29-2014 04:45 PM

Is anything right?

Bonanza 03-29-2014 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 853345)
There are "Residents Only" signs all over TV. The technical term for them is "Unenforceable."

You can put a "No Solicitors" sign on your front door. It can't keep people from ringing your doorbell.

:icon_wink:

Carl -- you are correct on all counts.
But what's a stranger who is a guest to do when they encounter one of our "unenforceable" gates?
Break through the gate anyway?
It's a dilemma! In addition, it's an embarrassment.

Indydealmaker 03-29-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 853378)
Carl -- you are correct on all counts.
But what's a stranger who is a guest to do when they encounter one of our "unenforceable" gates?
Break through the gate anyway?
It's a dilemma! In addition, it's an embarrassment.

I advise avoiding "embarrassment" by informing your guests that all they have to do is push the little button. This works at all gates.

perrjojo 03-29-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 853380)
I advise avoiding "embarrassment" by informing your guests that all they have to do is push the little button. This works at all gates.

:BigApplause:

Carl in Tampa 03-29-2014 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 853380)
I advise avoiding "embarrassment" by informing your guests that all they have to do is push the little button. This works at all gates.

:agree::agree::agree:

Bonanza 03-29-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 851817)
I was under the impression the exit gates control the flow of traffic coming out on to the main roads like 27/441, 446, and 446A .

Somewhere along the line someone has fed you bad information.

Exit gates aren't close to the main arteries you mentioned
and could not possibily control the traffic.
441/27 is nowhere near the Villages to matter.

dillywho 03-29-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 851998)
How many burglaries have been solved using this security method in the last 6 months? Zero?

You're right..Zero. Why? Because it is not a security method nor intended as one.

dillywho 03-29-2014 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 853522)
Somewhere along the line someone has fed you bad information.

Exit gates aren't close to the main arteries you mentioned
and could not possibily control the traffic.
441/27 is nowhere near the Villages to matter.

The Villages logo bridge spans 441/27 so it is most definitely "near" The Villages. Can't get much closer.

Ooper 03-29-2014 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 853522)
Somewhere along the line someone has fed you bad information.

Exit gates aren't close to the main arteries you mentioned
and could not possibily control the traffic.
441/27 is nowhere near the Villages to matter.

The gates entering Orange Blossom Hills are right off 441/27 and within just a few car lengths off the 6-lane divided highway. There are also gates off 466 within a few cars lengths. Just thought you should know.

dillywho 03-29-2014 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 852513)
In comparison, a stop sign would do the same thing,
and costs a lot less than a million dollars per year.

I do think that drivers here could be a little more courteous.

Sorry, but stop signs would NOT do the same thing. When the arms are broken off the gates (as they often are), stop signs and cones are put out. They are blatantly ignored by many. Heck, they don't even bother to slow down much of the time, much less stop. Might be cheaper, but by no means effective.

You are right in the drivers here could be more courteous...as could diners, shoppers, etc. Just sayin':duck:

Barefoot 03-29-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 852050)
I thought the gates were there to provide amusement on the district government website by watching folks going through them to see how many times they could be run into.

:evil6: I think you may be on to something! Broken gates are quite common in our Village, both entry and exit.

njbchbum 03-29-2014 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 853522)
Somewhere along the line someone has fed you bad information.

Exit gates aren't close to the main arteries you mentioned
and could not possibily control the traffic.
441/27 is nowhere near the Villages to matter.

So how about the main roads of Morse and Buena Vista Blvds and Avenida Central? Thank God there are gates there!!!!!

njbchbum 03-29-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 852056)
Most cases you are correct but there are some... Santiago gate and the Polo Ridge gate near the polo fields are just 2 that come to mind where the crossing is outside the gate.

Bridgeport @ Lake Sumter also has a cart crossing outside of the gates!

Indydealmaker 03-30-2014 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 853541)
Bridgeport @ Lake Sumter also has a cart crossing outside of the gates!

And the crossing to which you refer creates huge cart backups due to the steady stream of unbroken traffic coming off of the roundabout.

njbchbum 03-30-2014 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 853553)
And the crossing to which you refer creates huge cart backups due to the steady stream of unbroken traffic coming off of the roundabout.

AMEN to that!

Trish Crocker 03-30-2014 12:38 AM

It's really a scam for the developers to make more money. Every time you go thru the gate, a dollar is subtracted from your amenity fee and put into their pockets! If you go through more that 145 times a month...there goes your free golf!
Seriously, is your life really that hectic that you can't wait two seconds???

rubicon 03-30-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 852643)
If the Paradise gate was a wall, how would people get in and out of The Villages? By using any gate minus one? How did man survive when it was just a hole in the wall? How has life improved with the gate in place?

Hi TV Mayor: Do you suppose that hole in the wall was suddenly walled off and then because of a few, gated, was done as a lark?

Why is it that the vast majority of residents applaud the Developer's genius but then complain about the gate system? Did the Developer have a senior moment here?

And what does it say about people's driving habits who crash through these gates? Are they distracted? inpatient?

The gates are separated as to resident/visitors because residents have gate passes and do not need attention while visitors need assistance and perhaps directions from gate keepers.

The gates are a welcoming sight, useful and adds to our security

perrjojo 03-30-2014 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 853611)
Hi TV Mayor: Do you suppose that hole in the wall was suddenly walled off and then because of a few, gated, was done as a lark?

Why is it that the vast majority of residents applaud the Developer's genius but then complain about the gate system? Did the Developer have a senior moment here?

And what does it say about people's driving habits who crash through these gates? Are they distracted? inpatient?

The gates are separated as to resident/visitors because residents have gate passes and do not need attention while visitors need assistance and perhaps directions from gate keepers.

The gates are a welcoming sight, useful and adds to our security

:BigApplause:
Some just don't want to be confused by the facts. When I was working people often told me , "I think......". My reply was always, "don't tell me what you think, tell me what you know."

I know the gates were not put there as a lark....they serve a purpose!

TVMayor 03-30-2014 09:58 AM

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Indydealmaker 03-30-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 853611)
Hi TV Mayor: Do you suppose that hole in the wall was suddenly walled off and then because of a few, gated, was done as a lark?

Why is it that the vast majority of residents applaud the Developer's genius but then complain about the gate system? Did the Developer have a senior moment here?

And what does it say about people's driving habits who crash through these gates? Are they distracted? inpatient?

The gates are separated as to resident/visitors because residents have gate passes and do not need attention while visitors need assistance and perhaps directions from gate keepers.

The gates are a welcoming sight, useful and adds to our security

Rubicon,
You are right. The gates are value-added. They are one of the many intangibles that have drawn us here and support property values that are based upon more than replacement cost and comps.

graciegirl 03-30-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 853712)
Rubicon,
You are right. The gates are value-added. They are one of the many intangibles that have drawn us here and support property values that are based upon more than replacement cost and comps.



Like he said............

TheVillageChicken 03-30-2014 10:59 AM

When a gate gets knocked down and I can drive straight through, I feel cheated.

Warren Kiefer 03-30-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 853535)
Sorry, but stop signs would NOT do the same thing. When the arms are broken off the gates (as they often are), stop signs and cones are put out. They are blatantly ignored by many. Heck, they don't even bother to slow down much of the time, much less stop. Might be cheaper, but by no means effective.

You are right in the drivers here could be more courteous...as could diners, shoppers, etc. Just sayin':duck:

LET ME OFFER AN IDEA TO THOSE WHO POSTED COMMENTS THAT THE EXIT GATES ARE A METHOD TO SLOW TRAFFIC. I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO AWAY WITH THE EXIT GATES AND REPLACE THEM WITH A NOT TOO HARSH SPEED BUMP. THIS WILL ALLOW A CONTINUOUS FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND AT THE SAME TIME DEFINATELY SLOW THE TRAFFIC.:BigApplause::MOJE_whot:

graciegirl 03-30-2014 11:05 AM

Thank heavens that the homeowners don't run things.

Trish Crocker 03-30-2014 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 853726)
Thank heavens that the homeowners don't run things.

:pray:

Indydealmaker 03-30-2014 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 853726)
Thank heavens that the homeowners don't run things.

I agree! Particularly the homeowners who apparently always get up on the wrong side of the bed.

Bonny 03-30-2014 11:52 AM

I must say this thread has been very entertaining !! :popcorn: :beer3:
To gate or not to gate, that is the question. :D

TheVillageChicken 03-30-2014 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 853753)
I must say this thread has been very entertaining !! :popcorn: :beer3:
To gate or not to gate, that is the question. :D

It is a welcome distraction. I no longer lie awake all night fretting about the Stonecrest invasion.

Ooper 03-30-2014 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 853541)
Bridgeport @ Lake Sumter also has a cart crossing outside of the gates!

Another one is at Bridgeport @ Mission Hills. There are actually many places where the gates are inside of the cart path. Doesn't really matter to me. What matters to me is when I go through a Villages gate, it means I am home!

Bogie Shooter 03-30-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 853749)
I agree! Particularly the homeowners who apparently always get up on the wrong side of the bed.

And finds a way for a negative post.........................

pgc4340 03-30-2014 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 851765)
Can anyone give me a rational reason why we have exit gates in the Villages??? We all know that the entrance gates are not authorized to prevent anyone from coming into the community, so does it make any sense for someone leaving the Villages to have to wait for a gate to raise to continue on their way??

I think it is time The Villages did away with the gates period. They serve no purpose at all. One in particular that is dangerous in the one at Del Mar Drive and Avenida Central! The cars going through the gate back up into the intersection, the cars coming from the direction of the square toward the gate, pull forward blocking the intersection so that cars can not proceed on Avenida Central. Accidents waiting to happen, as is the same with the round abouts. People do not know how to drive them, people make right turns from the inside lane. We were hit broadside, the officer said it was definitely the other drivers fault, but he could not write her a citation because the circles were considered confusing. Another time, I was forced to swerve quickly toward the curb damaging my rim, because of another person making the same sort of wrong move. If The Villages feel the need for circles, then they should all be one lane.

Bogie Shooter 03-30-2014 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgc4340 (Post 853826)
I think it is time The Villages did away with the gates period. They serve no purpose at all. One in particular that is dangerous in the one at Del Mar Drive and Avenida Central! The cars going through the gate back up into the intersection, the cars coming from the direction of the square toward the gate, pull forward blocking the intersection so that cars can not proceed on Avenida Central. Accidents waiting to happen, as is the same with the round abouts. People do not know how to drive them, people make right turns from the inside lane. We were hit broadside, the officer said it was definitely the other drivers fault, but he could not write her a citation because the circles were considered confusing. Another time, I was forced to swerve quickly toward the curb damaging my rim, because of another person making the same sort of wrong move. If The Villages feel the need for circles, then they should all be one lane.

Welcome to TOTV.
You must be more careful when driving in the roundabouts.

DougB 03-30-2014 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgc4340 (Post 853826)
I think it is time The Villages did away with the gates period. They serve no purpose at all. One in particular that is dangerous in the one at Del Mar Drive and Avenida Central! The cars going through the gate back up into the intersection, the cars coming from the direction of the square toward the gate, pull forward blocking the intersection so that cars can not proceed on Avenida Central. Accidents waiting to happen, as is the same with the round abouts. People do not know how to drive them, people make right turns from the inside lane. We were hit broadside, the officer said it was definitely the other drivers fault, but he could not write her a citation because the circles were considered confusing. Another time, I was forced to swerve quickly toward the curb damaging my rim, because of another person making the same sort of wrong move. If The Villages feel the need for circles, then they should all be one lane.

Appears you may be speaking of yourself. Have you familiarized yourself with the rules?

BTW: Welcome to TOTV


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